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SENTRY: Console-sized gaming PC case project

I can't wait any longer - I am going to buy a graphics card (i'm on gtx 570 right now)
Right now trying to find Nvidia GTX 1080 or 1070 in stock -
Seems there are 2 types of cards so far - the founders edition style cards with one fan
And the partner cards which have 2 or 3 fans seeming to vent maybe a different direction
For the Sentry case can I pick a partner card with 2-3 fans? Or founders edition style cards are much better for Sentry?
 
They need to be reference size to fit into the case, as far as I can tell, so most of the bigger cards are not going to fit. I'm going with the MSI Aero OC GTX 1080 because it's reference size, but has a better blower cooler than the stock card. It's going for about $640 if you can find it. Most of these other cards are ginormous. So yeah ... either the stock NVIDIA cards or third-party stock-sized cards. There might be more wiggle room, but it would have to be confirmed by someone else.
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They need to be reference size to fit into the case, as far as I can tell, so most of the bigger cards are not going to fit. I'm going with the MSI Aero OC GTX 1080 because it's reference size, but has a better blower cooler than the stock card. It's going for about $640 if you can find it. Most of these other cards are ginormous. So yeah ... either the stock NVIDIA cards or third-party stock-sized cards. There might be more wiggle room, but it would have to be confirmed by someone else.
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What makes you say that the MSI Aero has a better blower cooler? My assumption was it was functionally the same as any other blower style cooler, just made with a plastic shroud to reduce the cost compared to Nvidia's version.

I can't find any reviews of it online yet, but if the cooler really is superior to the reference (excuse me, "founders') edition, that'd be a valuable thing for this thread to know.

Also, just in case any english-learners come across this thread, there are still plenty of custom coolers that fit within this case's specifications... just not many of the flagship coolers.
 
darksable said:
What makes you say that the MSI Aero has a better blower cooler? My assumption was it was functionally the same as any other blower style cooler, just made with a plastic shroud to reduce the cost compared to Nvidia's version.

I can't find any reviews of it online yet, but if the cooler really is superior to the reference (excuse me, "founders') edition, that'd be a valuable thing for this thread to know.

Also, just in case any english-learners come across this thread, there are still plenty of custom coolers that fit within this case's specifications... just not many of the flagship coolers.
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The blower coolers on the stock NVIDIA cards are garbage and MSI has traditionally had better ones, so I'm more going on an assumption based on their reputation, but I could be wrong.
 
If you want to buy the card now I'd say to go for a blower style like TheFragile said - it's the safest choice if you're not sure how to pick the card depending on its size, just make sure that those ain't the fancy asus/gigabyte oversized blowers.

Triple fan units like gigabyte windforce will fit depending on their dimensions. Surprisingly asus strix might fit, but we'll have to get that checked somehow.

Still, if you want to use the case in horizontal position then going for a open air, "three fan" solution might not give you any advantages over the blower styled cooler since those work very well inside cases with induced airflow that can change the air around them quickly, or in our case if you put it on vertical stand so the card has better access to the fresh air from the side while all hot air goes quickly up.
 
SaperPL said:
If you want to buy the card now I'd say to go for a blower style like TheFragile said - it's the safest choice if you're not sure how to pick the card depending on its size, just make sure that those ain't the fancy asus/gigabyte oversized blowers.
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The MSI Aero is their slim card, so it will fit for sure. Been eyeing that card specifically for this case. It's 269 mm x 111 mm x 35 mm. It's not one of the monstrosities that ASUS/GB have.


Surprisingly asus strix might fit, but we'll have to get that checked somehow.
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Wow. That thing is gigantic. But if it could be confirmed that it fits, I might get that instead. But do you think a card like that with 3 fans is better than a blower card for this particular style case? The STRIX is OC'd to boost around 2 GHz right out of the box, which is nice. The Aero is around 1.7 ish.
 
If you check out the test results on the opening post, gigabyte windforce went down to 61 degrees in vertical position - if you want to use the vertical stand then going for such monster might be a thing but remember this will be louder then blower when laying horizontally without a stand.

Strix might fit this time since they've recessed the PEG power connectors to reference position.

Anyway this is not a case for OC'ing - consider that. something like strix with increased power draw might simply get throttled not reaching the target frequencies in horizontal position. I'd say that 150W is our target TDP (GTX1070/RX480), if you want to go over that then you should probably pick blower (probably incoming 250W 1080TI/titan especially) or use it only on a stand.
 
It will be vertical when connected to a monitor and horizontal when connected to my TV. Do you think the blower would be the best for both these scenarios? I have no intention of OCing for the reasons you've already stated in here. I'm just looking at the third-party flavors of the GPU because they all seem to have better cooling than the stock cards.
 
I'd go for the blower then since when playing on TV you're most likely be hitting those target 80 degrees anyway but it might get really loud with three fans in this scenario. Your experience might depend on how far you are from the TV :)

Anyway if you're going to buy parts before reviews then going blower would be the safest choice. Our tests weren't so extensive and we don't have as much experience in that as linus and other reviewers have so we might be biased to some degree to what we've had in our pc's so far.

Reviews might show that going for open air cooling might work the same as in other such cases like RVZ02/Node202 or in comparison sentry might be louder with a three fan units. We don't know that yet - we'd have to get a range of cases and gpu's for comparison and that still should be treated as biased test results since we're the manufacturer.
 
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Yeah, youre right. It's too early to tell at this point. We'll just have to wait and see. I really appreciate you taking the time to respond.

As for the TV I'll be far enough back to where it won't matter ... that and any sound coming out of the case will be drowned out by the gigantic loudspeakers I have.
 
Do you think the MSI GTX 980 Ti Gaming 6G would fit into this case? I just got a ridiculous deal on this card and wondering if I should keep it for this case. If it won't fit I'll just sell it. It's 10.59" x 5.51" x 3.1" or 268 mm x 140 mm x 81 mm. Isn't this a bit too thick? I think your site says the entire case is 2.5" wide so this would definitely not fit if that's the case. The ASUS Strix is gigantic but it's not even 2 inches thick.
 
The Fragile said:
Do you think the MSI GTX 980 Ti Gaming 6G would fit into this case? I just got a ridiculous deal on this card and wondering if I should keep it for this case. If it won't fit I'll just sell it. It's 10.59" x 5.51" x 3.1" or 268 mm x 140 mm x 81 mm. Isn't this a bit too thick? I think your site says the entire case is 2.5" wide so this would definitely not fit if that's the case. The ASUS Strix is gigantic but it's not even 2 inches thick.
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Don't You think this MSI card is too wide? You won't be able to attach the power connectors.

p.s. Are we talking about this card: Link ? I'm asking, because it has different dimensions, than You said (at least not in thickness).
 
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Sorry, what you linked is the correct dimensions. I should've gone to MSI's official site for the dimensions, lol.

The MSI Aero is 4.3" wide, same as the reference card. I don't want the case to work for the GPU I want the GPU to work for the case. So I'll just stick with the MSI Aero then.

What is the max width/thickness for this case that will allow the connectors to be attached? You said the STRIX might fit, but that thing is 5.3" inches (134 mm).


P.S. Sorry for all the questions, I'm just excited like a little kid on the night before Christmas.
 
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Furthermore, I'd add to the cons: the only reliable riser for that kind of config is the one from 3M, that costs a lot (about 90€ at the moment of writing).
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The Fragile said:
Yeah .... that's why the Dan case is so ridiculously expensive.
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Hmmm, i didn't read this before...

You mean, when ordering 1500 pcs of 3M riser for almost 1500 ordered Dan-A4 cases, PCI-E riser still costs 90€? So if You accidentally damage Your riser what would be the cost of 1 pcs of this 3M riser? 200€? I don't get it. When You order only 1 pcs of something then it can be expensive. But when You order 1000 pcs then in most situations you'll get a discount from the manufacturer. I don't understand why everyone think that DanA4 is so ultra-expensive, because of the price of PCI-E Riser...
I think 90€ is a price for this riser when you are a simple customer and you need only 1 pcs. But if you will order 100, 500, 1000 or more, then the price should drop dramatically (maybe even divided by 3 or 4).

I'm not following dondan topic, so maybe i'm missing something. Correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't believe that nearly half of the pc-case price would be a cost of the riser (especially in a mass production/order).
 
ZombiPL said:
Hmmm, i didn't read this before...

You mean, when ordering 1500 pcs of 3M riser for almost 1500 ordered Dan-A4 cases, PCI-E riser still costs 90€? So if You accidentally damage Your riser what would be the cost of 1 pcs of this 3M riser? 200€? I don't get it. When You order only 1 pcs of something then it can be expensive. But when You order 1000 pcs then in most situations you'll get a discount from the manufacturer. I don't understand why everyone think that DanA4 is so ultra-expensive, because of the price of PCI-E Riser...
I think 90€ is a price for this riser when you are a simple customer and you need only 1 pcs. But if you will order 100, 500, 1000 or more, then the price should drop dramatically (maybe even divided by 3 or 4).

I'm not following dondan topic, so maybe i'm missing something. Correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't believe that nearly half of the pc-case price would be a cost of the riser (especially in a mass production/order).
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I'm just saying it adds to the cost of the case, among many things. The case is €230 ($258 USD).
 
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What Zombi wanted to say is that it's oversimplifying things and just excuse for a high price - buying those risers in a batch most likely makes the unit price like half of it. I'm not saying that the case price is not justified, it's just that the riser isn't the only piece making this case cost this much. Consider that dondan need to make revenue to run it as business and lian li wants it's cut as well. Then there's kickstarter fee, payment service fee (credit card handling) etc.

I think that the biggest part in A4 cost might be the fact that dondan wants return on his investment that he spent tons of time and quite a lot of money to develop this product and he's splitting that money among those base 500 units which were target for the campaign. If that's really the case, then A4 costs a lot more than other lian li cases since R&D costs are split among 500 units rather than 5000 so for example it's $100 added to the price tag while it could be only $10 if mass produced. That's how business usually work.

We on the other hand have a bit more complicated design and manufacturing than A4, but we should somehow fit within those $199 with proper revenue to sustain it, because we've got all R&D on our side and we're not including those costs in the final price tag since going over those $200 might kill the product early, and in the long run getting back R&D costs shouldn't be a problem. That's a bit optimistic hobbyist-passionate approach to business starting that can work well if you've got money to burn from other sources :)
 
I signed up specifically to show my support for this project. This looks like an awesome case and I'd definitely order one as soon as the pre-orders open!

The build I have in mind is X99, probably with a 6900k/6850k plus something like a 1070 or 1080. Do you think temps will still be okay with a 140w CPU instead of a 90w+ one? I'm not planning on OC'ing either the GPU or CPU.

Edit: I did some searching myself and couldn't find a ILM narrow cooler that would fit the case. Does one exist?
 
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I signed up specifically to show my support for this project. This looks like an awesome case and I'd definitely order one as soon as the pre-orders open!

The build I have in mind is X99, probably with a 6900k/6850k plus something like a 1070 or 1080. Do you think temps will still be okay with a 140w CPU instead of a 90w+ one? I'm not planning on OC'ing either the GPU or CPU.

Edit: I did some searching myself and couldn't find a ILM narrow cooler that would fit the case. Does one exist?
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You probably shouldn't based on the TDP of the 6900k/5850k is 40w over the Cryorig C7.

Also might I suggest the 6700k or even the 6700 "non k" on the H/Z170 motherboard? The only real gain for gaming on a 6900k CPU over a 6700k is more PCI lanes for more than 2 SLI which you wont even touch in this case or many others and "future proofing" due to the additional cores and threads for DX12 and on. Plus a 1100 USD price tag vs 315 USD is madness as well as the cost of the X99 boards are not cheap compared to the H/Z170 boards so the price for performance is just not there with X99.
 
RosaJ said:
You probably shouldn't based on the TDP of the 6900k/5850k is 40w over the Cryorig C7.

Also might I suggest the 6700k or even the 6700 "non k" on the H/Z170 motherboard? The only real gain for gaming on a 6900k CPU over a 6700k is more PCI lanes for more than 2 SLI which you wont even touch in this case or many others and "future proofing" due to the additional cores and threads for DX12 and on. Plus a 1100 USD price tag vs 315 USD is madness as well as the cost of the X99 boards are not cheap compared to the H/Z170 boards so the price for performance is just not there with X99.
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The primary purpose is to run simulation models where 6/8-core comes in handy. From the benchmarks I've seen I'm expecting a 40-60% performance boost from the 6700k if neither is OC'd. Gaming is of secondary importance and if it runs too hot with the GPU under load, I'm open to underclocking the CPU when I game...

Based on benchmarks with the A4-sfx it seems that with a bit of customization a 5820k might work under similar conditions (48mm max cooler, ~80c with Prime95). But I agree, even that is pushing things a bit far.
 
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The primary purpose is to run simulation models where 6/8-core comes in handy. From the benchmarks I've seen I'm expecting a 40-60% performance boost from the 6700k if neither is OC'd. Gaming is of secondary importance and if it runs too hot with the GPU under load, I'm open to underclocking the CPU when I game...

Based on benchmarks with the A4-sfx it seems that with a bit of customization a 5820k might work under similar conditions (48mm max cooler, ~80c with Prime95). But I agree, even that is pushing things a bit far.
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Wait for a company to come out with a mini 1070 and try to cram a watercooler in there. It'll be noisy as hell and it'll stress the cooler, but the fact of the matter is there's no CPU cooler that's 47mm or less that can handle a 150w TDP cpu.
 
yyv_146 said:
The primary purpose is to run simulation models where 6/8-core comes in handy. From the benchmarks I've seen I'm expecting a 40-60% performance boost from the 6700k if neither is OC'd. Gaming is of secondary importance and if it runs too hot with the GPU under load, I'm open to underclocking the CPU when I game...

Based on benchmarks with the A4-sfx it seems that with a bit of customization a 5820k might work under similar conditions (48mm max cooler, ~80c with Prime95). But I agree, even that is pushing things a bit far.
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this is not the case you are looking for. seriously, its not built for it. to get a big enough cooler for that chip you have to cut a hole in the side and let it stick out or maybe external water cooling.
 
pendragon1 said:
this is not the case you are looking for. seriously, its not built for it. to get a big enough cooler for that chip you have to cut a hole in the side and let it stick out or maybe external water cooling.
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https://hardforum.com/threads/dan-a4-sfx-the-smallest-gaming-case-in-the-world.1799326/page-66#post-1041753381

This is the post that gives me some hope, assuming that this case won't be worse than the A4-SFX.

I agree though. The original idea was a separate, future workstation build, but the broadwell-e chips came out and the 6900k seemed like a decent enough upgrade.
 
It's cool that dondan did those tests but he didn't log the clocks. I think it's the same with the gpu tests - he didn't log clocks in those either. The problem is that cpu might be hitting the target temps in the same way as gpu's do and throttle. Also note that when you undervolt that might mean reducing the power limit to the cpu which ends up cutting the clocks as well. Also unless you've got kick-ass cooling keeping really low temps undervolting might make the cpu unstable on various loads even when it passes prolonged stress tests.

Additionally note that A4 has direct escape of hot air above the motherboard while Sentry in vertical position on a stand doesn't, so it would go up and heat up gpu and disks if not dissipated fast enough. We haven't done tests with such power hungry cpu's though, so you never really know what happens until you check it.

That said, I'd still like to see it happen :)
 
SaperPL said:
It's cool that dondan did those tests but he didn't log the clocks. I think it's the same with the gpu tests - he didn't log clocks in those either. The problem is that cpu might be hitting the target temps in the same way as gpu's do and throttle. Also note that when you undervolt that might mean reducing the power limit to the cpu which ends up cutting the clocks as well. Also unless you've got kick-ass cooling keeping really low temps undervolting might make the cpu unstable on various loads even when it passes prolonged stress tests.

Additionally note that A4 has direct escape of hot air above the motherboard while Sentry in vertical position on a stand doesn't, so it would go up and heat up gpu and disks if not dissipated fast enough. We haven't done tests with such power hungry cpu's though, so you never really know what happens until you check it.

That said, I'd still like to see it happen :)
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Thanks. That makes a lot of sense. I'd like to try - but NOT spend-$1300-more "like to try" :hungry:.

On the plus side, with a 6700 around I can get one of the cheaper Xeons specifically for multi-core supporting simulations and not worry about single thread performance...the Sentry it is. This is really the dream build for me, since I fly around a lot and work in different cities for a couple months each. My plan is to chuck the sentry, a 17' portable display and a keyboard in the carry-on for each trip. I've held off upgrading my current system for ~4 years since I just don't use it enough.
 
Hello everyone!, I'm new to this forum but I've been keeping an eye on this case's progress for a while now

I built a mini-itx system for myself recently with the following specs:

CPU - Intel i7 6700K
GPU - MSI Gaming 960 2GB (I plan on upgrading to the RX480 if it benches well)
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-Z170N Gaming 5 (mini itx)
RAM - Kingston HyperX 16GB @ 2400Mhz
SSD - OCZ Trion 150 240GB
PSU - Corsair SF450 SFX

Now the reason why I listed this is because I'm also using the Cryorig C7 cooler but with the 6700K and in the Silverstone RVZ02, I'm happy to report absolutely no throttling (and this is with the filters on), my room temperature nearly always sits at around 22c-23c degrees, the 6700k's temps are as follows:

The first "At Load" results are with AIDA64 Extreme's stability test and with everything in the system stressed including the FPU (on the CPU), GPU and SSD. Temps were recorded using CPUID HW Monitor and AIDA64 itself.

At Load:
81c - Hottest CPU Core (for barely a second)
79c - Hottest CPU Package
75c - Average CPU Temperature

At Idle:
41c - Hottest CPU Core (again for a fraction of a second)
39c - Hottest CPU Package
37c - Average CPU Temperature

In Game (The Witcher 3 ultra settings, hairworks off @ 1080p, played for 20min)
75c - Hottest CPU Core
74c - Hottest CPU Package
69c - Average CPU Temperature

All these temps are with my custom relaxed CPU fan curve, the fan sits at around 30-50% (very quite) until the CPU hits 65c then the fans spin up to 60-75% until the CPU hits 80c then it spins at 100%. (even at 100%, it's still quieter than my PS4, GPU included)

So, sorry for the long post but the reason for it is because I was originally planning to build this PC in the Sentry Case (and I still do when it releases), but for now I built the PC using the RVZ02 and I am surprised at the temperatures considering I'm using the 6700K unlocked CPU and it's running at it's full capabilities with absolutely no throttling whatsoever.

Well there you go, just in case anyone was wondering, yes you definitely can use the 6700K with the Cryorig C7 in a small mini-itx (RVZ02) which means you should have almost the same scenario in the sentry with no performance loss and reasonable temps, although I do recommend using a custom fan curve as the default is a little over aggressive.

If anyone wants me to run some specific tests as well I would be glad to.
 
RVZ02 has a bit more space inside and quite a lot more perforations which makes it more feasible with such scenario, however filters might make thermal RVZ02 comparison to Sentry closer.

Anyway It's up to you to see if that throttles or not when you're not going to wait for reviews anymore :)
 
Last_Colossi said:
Hello everyone!, I'm new to this forum but I've been keeping an eye on this case's progress for a while now

I built a mini-itx system for myself recently with the following specs:

CPU - Intel i7 6700K
GPU - MSI Gaming 960 2GB (I plan on upgrading to the RX480 if it benches well)
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-Z170N Gaming 5 (mini itx)
RAM - Kingston HyperX 16GB @ 2400Mhz
SSD - OCZ Trion 150 240GB
PSU - Corsair SF450 SFX

Now the reason why I listed this is because I'm also using the Cryorig C7 cooler but with the 6700K and in the Silverstone RVZ02, I'm happy to report absolutely no throttling (and this is with the filters on), my room temperature nearly always sits at around 22c-23c degrees, the 6700k's temps are as follows:

The first "At Load" results are with AIDA64 Extreme's stability test and with everything in the system stressed including the FPU (on the CPU), GPU and SSD. Temps were recorded using CPUID HW Monitor and AIDA64 itself.

At Load:
81c - Hottest CPU Core (for barely a second)
79c - Hottest CPU Package
75c - Average CPU Temperature

At Idle:
41c - Hottest CPU Core (again for a fraction of a second)
39c - Hottest CPU Package
37c - Average CPU Temperature

In Game (The Witcher 3 ultra settings, hairworks off @ 1080p, played for 20min)
75c - Hottest CPU Core
74c - Hottest CPU Package
69c - Average CPU Temperature

All these temps are with my custom relaxed CPU fan curve, the fan sits at around 30-50% (very quite) until the CPU hits 65c then the fans spin up to 60-75% until the CPU hits 80c then it spins at 100%. (even at 100%, it's still quieter than my PS4, GPU included)

So, sorry for the long post but the reason for it is because I was originally planning to build this PC in the Sentry Case (and I still do when it releases), but for now I built the PC using the RVZ02 and I am surprised at the temperatures considering I'm using the 6700K unlocked CPU and it's running at it's full capabilities with absolutely no throttling whatsoever.

Well there you go, just in case anyone was wondering, yes you definitely can use the 6700K with the Cryorig C7 in a small mini-itx (RVZ02) which means you should have almost the same scenario in the sentry with no performance loss and reasonable temps, although I do recommend using a custom fan curve as the default is a little over aggressive.

If anyone wants me to run some specific tests as well I would be glad to.
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Wow glad you posted about your build and how it applies here. I've been thinking about upgrading to the 6700k for a bit, coming from a 2600, mostly for the nuances and availability of ITX 170 motherboards, but also because I want to. So I'm happy to see good temps with the C7 on your 6700k in that case.

Time will tell what limits are possible in the Sentry!
 
RosaJ said:
Wow glad you posted about your build and how it applies here. I've been thinking about upgrading to the 6700k for a bit, coming from a 2600, mostly for the nuances and availability of ITX 170 motherboards, but also because I want to. So I'm happy to see good temps with the C7 on your 6700k in that case.

Time will tell what limits are possible in the Sentry!
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A couple of things you should know first:

The Cryorig C7 is nicely built and packaged but it doesn't like my motherboard (GA-Z170N Gaming 5) very much, When installing the cooler the back plate that was included refused to sit flush with the back of the motherboard and even after flexing it a little the threads on the screws wouldn't reach the backplate. It's good that they include 4 rubber grommets in case that happens though, so I had to use those instead of the backplate.

Secondly the step above the coolers bottom plate (it's hard to see in images but there is a step above the coolers bottom plate) actually presses on the motherboards power phases. I tried orientating the cooler 90° but it's actually worse at that angle. It manages to fit anyway but just barely and about 1-2mm of that step on the cooler is pressing down on 1 power phase with the same amount of pressure that's on the CPU, I don't like it but I haven't had any problems.

All in all it's a good cooler, but I can't really recommended it with my exact motherboard (which is annoying because it's a fantastic motherboard).

Also I forgot to mention I'm using Noctus NT-H1 thermal compound (they do include some of their own brand thermal compound with the cooler though), so that might have a little effect on my temps.
 
Last_Colossi said:
A couple of things you should know first:

The Cryorig C7 is nicely built and packaged but it doesn't like my motherboard (GA-Z170N Gaming 5) very much, When installing the cooler the back plate that was included refused to sit flush with the back of the motherboard and even after flexing it a little the threads on the screws wouldn't reach the backplate. It's good that they include 4 rubber grommets in case that happens though, so I had to use those instead of the backplate.

Secondly the step above the coolers bottom plate (it's hard to see in images but there is a step above the coolers bottom plate) actually presses on the motherboards power phases. I tried orientating the cooler 90° but it's actually worse at that angle. It manages to fit anyway but just barely and about 1-2mm of that step on the cooler is pressing down on 1 power phase with the same amount of pressure that's on the CPU, I don't like it but I haven't had any problems.

All in all it's a good cooler, but I can't really recommended it with my exact motherboard (which is annoying because it's a fantastic motherboard).

Also I forgot to mention I'm using Noctus NT-H1 thermal compound (they do include some of their own brand thermal compound with the cooler though), so that might have a little effect on my temps.
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Yeah, I currently have the C7 with the Zotac H67-ITX-C-E mobo and had similar issues. I ended up having to bend one of the corners fin to make clearance for the power phase and another for the country power connector. Wasn't happy about it, but it's one of two boards that I can find on the Internet!
 
Looks like I'll be going with a Noctua cooler instead. Don't feel like bending anything to make it fit.
 
The Fragile said:
Looks like I'll be going with a Noctua cooler instead. Don't feel like bending anything to make it fit.
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It's not bad per say as far as aesthetics, you can't see the bend on my board. Both the cpu power connector and ram hide it. Plus once it's in the Sentry the extra TDP cooling it offers over Noctuas NH-L9 cooler makes the difference for me. It's actually why I picked the C7. I really wanted the NH-L9 for silence(and I'm a fan of Noctua, ha pun intended), but at idle the C7 is very quiet and when gaming it makes me feel better my cpu is running cooler than it would under the NH-L9.
 
I think we've talked about this - you should probably remove the name plate and drill the holes for the hoses at the back there putting the drill centered at name plate rivet holes. The question remains what will you do with external water cooling - You'll need some fancy stand for it
 
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Agreed.

I think water cooling, for this case, is not worth. If the case is upright, then it'll look a little funny if the rad is mounted to the side, protruding from the side panel. Where as in the horizontal position you'd have to deal with limiting yourself to one side the case may lay on and again having an external rad protruding from now the top of the case.
 
Little Update!

After many e-mails asking about making a "live" size comparison with consoles, we've decided to add some new photos to SENTRY gallery.


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At this moment we are only waiting for new power cables and we're ready to send SENTRY to LTT for a review.
 
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