Sensei Wireless... {drool}

[Bluesun311]

Looks nice:

Really nice...

I bet it's expensive but look:

Definitely get the feeling it's expensive...

...crap

 

[Venomous]

Looks pretty good. I know a lot of guys want a wireless gaming mouse. Hopefully this ones delivers.

 

[sharknice]

The only thing that really sets this this apart is you can use it left handed. $160 is a lot when you can get the G700s for $75.

 

[MrWrong]

Yeah $160 is way more than I would ever be willing to spend on a mouse.

 

[VulcaN]

How is this better than the G700s?

 

[seanclayton]

Low batterylife doe.

 

[Rattle]

hope the scroll wheel isnt a POS like on the sensai, nice mouse but the scroll wheel is cheap poop at best

 

[Bluesun311]

I like wireless, but as long as I am being silly and going for crap with little lights on em, probably best to stick with wires. They say up to 16 hours lifetime on that mouse but... come on, wireless+ LED's is an oxy-moron.

 

[nite0]

I love my G700. $160 seems way to steep for this. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume it will have great performance but it better look the part as well. That thing looks way too cheap to command that kind of a price tag.

 

[RanceJustice]

Besides the price, I'm disappointed that the wireless version lacks the little LCD on the bottom of the other Sensei variants that allows you to totally customize how the mouse works without having any drivers or utilities installed on the host machine. Unfortunate to cut that corner, I know it isn' the most popular feature but for those of us who say, used Linux (for which SteelSeries doesn't make utilities/drivers, or FOSS documentation so we can make our own), it was a nice benefit.

 

[ebduncan]

I like wireless, but as long as I am being silly and going for crap with little lights on em, probably best to stick with wires. They say up to 16 hours lifetime on that mouse but... come on, wireless+ LED's is an oxy-moron.

you do know how little power leds use right?
A single AA battery can run a low power LED for like 30-40 days.

I used to like wireless mice, but replacing batteries suck, and even rechargeable batteries suck. Perhaps if they were able to making a charging mouse pad for it, so you could use the mouse with out wires (ideal) and you wouldn't have to worry about swapping out batteries mid game.

 

[Bluesun311]

you do know how little power leds use right?
A single AA battery can run a low power LED for like 30-40 days.

I used to like wireless mice, but replacing batteries suck, and even rechargeable batteries suck. Perhaps if they were able to making a charging mouse pad for it, so you could use the mouse with out wires (ideal) and you wouldn't have to worry about swapping out batteries mid game.

I guess. Why aren't there more wireless keyboards and mice with lights all over them? My guess is they use too much power that way. The logitech wireless illuminated kb has a sensor to turn the leds on only when your hands are close.

 

[W.Feather]

Because they look like shit in 90% of the uses is probably why, not a power reason. There is no technical reason (power wise) to putting LEDs in everything, other than apperance......


As for the mouse, looks nice, but i prefer my G700s, atleast in the looks department, bat life while gaming leaves a bit to be desired (regular usage is fine)

 

[Bluesun311]

Because they look like shit in 90% of the uses is probably why, not a power reason. There is no technical reason (power wise) to putting LEDs in everything, other than apperance......


As for the mouse, looks nice, but i prefer my G700s, atleast in the looks department, bat life while gaming leaves a bit to be desired (regular usage is fine)

Have to agree they do almost always look silly. For what ever reason I think think the steelseries logo looks stylish. I really like my rival a lot. a LOT a lot. And this is the same look but wireless. I wish it didn't have the expensive docking station and was cheaper.

It is good to know from someone that has obvious authority/legitimacy that the LEDs aren't a serious issue, because I have been eyeing that Logitech wireless illuminated keyboard a while. Do you think that many LEDs make much difference? It's the only namebrand illuminated wireless KB i can imagine getting. I mean I did realize somewhere in my head that LED lightbulbs were preferable for a reason and that it wasn't because they smell nice. I just didn't really have a good idea for how long wireless mice/keyboard batteries last and if adding LEDs on top of that made sense. I like the keybaord from the logitech MK520 wireless pair a LOT but it's not illuminated. My mechanical keyboard is too loud at night.

 

[sharknice]

you do know how little power leds use right?
A single AA battery can run a low power LED for like 30-40 days.

I used to like wireless mice, but replacing batteries suck, and even rechargeable batteries suck. Perhaps if they were able to making a charging mouse pad for it, so you could use the mouse with out wires (ideal) and you wouldn't have to worry about swapping out batteries mid game.

I never really have had problems with running out of power. I currently use a G700s and just plug it in while I sleep. The only time it dies is if I have been using it for 20 hours or something crazy like that. Then I just plug it in or put a different battery in.

But wireless power/charging through a mouse pad is a brilliant idea. I wonder if it is safe though.

 

[robbiekhan]

The only thing that really sets this this apart is you can use it left handed. $160 is a lot when you can get the G700s for $75.

Or G602 which is cheaper still with longer lasting batteries and a higher quality optical sensor. I have both and have boxed up the G700 for if I ever need to RMA the 602 and need a spare.

G602 needs batteries changing after 2-3 months. G700 lasts 2 days tops before needing charging. That's with daily gaming and both in gaming mode. In Endurance mode the G602 lasts even longer.

 

[VulcaN]

thats a bit misleading, the G700s is still superior in optical tracking from what I've seen. I gave the G602 away to someone who needs less performance and longer battery life.

I don't mind hot swapping a single AA enloop every other day.

 

[robbiekhan]

Nope not misleading at all. The optical sensor is also better located on the G602. I've found the sensitivity is greater felt in applications like Photoshop where I spend most of my time and tracing small layers is easier on the 602 when both are set to the same dpi (I use 1200). Basically for small scale mousing in that kind of work is where it shines and sniping. My TF2 performance as Sniper has never been better.

For what it's worth I don't use any acceleration and prefer a more raw input.

 

[stooleywood]

I'm interesting in this for sure, the G700/s looks ridiculously shitty and gaudy compared to this one.

 

[sharknice]

Nope not misleading at all. The optical sensor is also better located on the G602. I've found the sensitivity is greater felt in applications like Photoshop where I spend most of my time and tracing small layers is easier on the 602 when both are set to the same dpi (I use 1200). Basically for small scale mousing in that kind of work is where it shines and sniping. My TF2 performance as Sniper has never been better.

For what it's worth I don't use any acceleration and prefer a more raw input.

Both the G700s and G602 use laser sensors. The G700s is more accurate. 8200 DPI versus 2500, 1000 hz polling versus 500.
The G700 doesn't have the same sensor as the G700s if that is what you're comparing.

Although I do agree the sensor placement is better on the G602. I would rather have it in the middle than towards the top like the G700s.

 

[robbiekhan]

Both the G700s and G602 use laser sensors. The G700s is more accurate. 8200 DPI versus 2500, 1000 hz polling versus 500.
The G700 doesn't have the same sensor as the G700s if that is what you're comparing.

Although I do agree the sensor placement is better on the G602. I would rather have it in the middle than towards the top like the G700s.

Yes G700 is what I'm comparing not the S, though the S is the exact same hardware is it not? Nothing on Logitech's site indicates different hardware to the non S, it is just visually tarted up. Either way the G602 does not use a laser sensor, it is an optical sensor illuminated by an LED. It also uses Logitech's Delta Zero tech which the G700/s do not:

Delta Zero™ sensor technology
Save power without compromise

G602 is our first wireless gaming mouse to feature exclusive Delta Zero sensor optimizations for high-accuracy cursor control, plus battery-extending power optimization routines. Whether flying across the screen or honing in on one pixel, the 2500 DPI sensor responds accurately to your hand movements. The LED-illuminated sensor is designed to go beyond simple eye/hand coordination, diminishing the thinking required to move your character, adjust your scope for sniping, select RTS units, or direct MOBA skill shots.

By all accounts the G602 has the more accurate sensor. The G700/s has a more powerful sensor capable of better DPI and report rates but power doesn't equal accuracy.

It also explains why I find sniping much better with the G602 over the G700. It just feels more natural most especially with twitch movement sniping when tracking people (Scouts in TF2, for example).

 

[sharknice]

Yes G700 is what I'm comparing not the S, though the S is the exact same hardware is it not? Nothing on Logitech's site indicates different hardware to the non S, it is just visually tarted up. Either way the G602 does not use a laser sensor, it is an optical sensor illuminated by an LED. It also uses Logitech's Delta Zero tech which the G700/s do not:



By all accounts the G602 has the more accurate sensor. The G700/s has a more powerful sensor capable of better DPI and report rates but power doesn't equal accuracy.

It also explains why I find sniping much better with the G602 over the G700. It just feels more natural most especially with twitch movement sniping when tracking people (Scouts in TF2, for example).

I own both the G700 and the G700s. The only difference between them is the hardware, the body is actually the same with a different paint job. The S has a new, better sensor and newer switches that are twice as durable. There isn't any acceleration in the S's sensor.

 

[topslop1]

Wireless are always never as fast as their wired counterparts. I'd have to use this one to see.. I used a latemodel wireless before and it was garbage. Some things are wired for a reason.

 

[Bluesun311]

I almost bought one of these from overstock.com because I had credit there but I chickened out.

 

[Usure]

I do not like wireless devices, however the Sensei Mouse is my favorite and the fact that this mouse has a wired option is pretty cool! I would still buy the wired Sensei if I needed a new mouse, but I would definitely give this mouse more thought just for the fact that I could leave the dongle in my laptop which I usually only use when I'm not using my PC. So this way I could use the mouse on both systems without the need of really "moving" it between systems.

 

[sharknice]

Wireless are always never as fast as their wired counterparts. I'd have to use this one to see.. I used a latemodel wireless before and it was garbage. Some things are wired for a reason.

I'm not sure what you mean by "fast", but there are a couple wireless mice that perform just as good as the best wired ones.