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Seagate Archive 8TB Reliability?

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arestavo

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Anyone have any experience with the Seagate Archive 8TB drive? The ST8000AS0002 and their reliability in particular?

I bought eight of them because they were so cheap ($209 each) for use in my backup RAID. They will go into a RAID 6, that doesn't need fast writes, for my backup RAID.

I'm extra worried because these particular drives only carry a 2 year warranty from the seller (third party on Amazon), and not a 3 year from Seagate. I've had really shitty luck with Seagate 1TB and 3TB drives (50% failure rate in 3 to 4 years), and I'm really hoping these aren't as shitty for reliability.
 
I have two of them myself - both are ST8000AS0002. They've been sat in an HP Microserver for just a shade under 2 years now - I bought them June 30th 2015 for a very good price at the time and they've been in near 24/7 operation since. They've obviously not been hammered with constant read/writes but they're holding up nicely and haven't given me any problems at all so I can't complain so far.
 
rive22 said:
Those drives are the last thing you'd want in a raid 6
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It's basically a cold storage RAID 6 that I backup to every 2 to 4 weeks.

I know the write speeds will be really slow, comparatively as they are SMR and 5900RPM, yet do you have any specific information as to why they would be the last thing I'd want in a RAID 6? Reliability problems? Or just a feeling?
 
Should've just used regular PMR drives, like the 5400rpm Ultrastar He8 inside any WD external 8TB.
The EasyStore version was/is on sale at BestBuy for $180.
 
arestavo said:
Anyone have any experience with the Seagate Archive 8TB drive? The ST8000AS0002 and their reliability in particular?
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Stats are tricky. You would need hundreds if not thousands of drives to be able to predict anything reliably. :/
 
chx said:
Stats are tricky. You would need hundreds if not thousands of drives to be able to predict anything reliably. :/
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Of course, yet when 4 of 8 1TB Seagate drives die in less than 3 years, and 4 of 8 3TB Seagate drives die in less than 3 years (home use, personal experience) - well, that leads me to ask what others have found for the 8TB Archive Seagate drive that has been out for more than 2 years.
 
WhoBeDaPlaya said:
Should've just used regular PMR drives, like the 5400rpm Ultrastar He8 inside any WD external 8TB.
The EasyStore version was/is on sale at BestBuy for $180.
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I did see those, but they limited how many you could buy and I wanted 8 - It would have been a KILLER deal otherwise. Plus there was the shucking that could, I believe, void the warranty if you messed up the housing - and I've been known to hulk on things occasionally.
 
arestavo said:
Of course, yet when 4 of 8 1TB Seagate drives die in less than 3 years, and 4 of 8 3TB Seagate drives die in less than 3 years (home use, personal experience) - well, that leads me to ask what others have found for the 8TB Archive Seagate drive that has been out for more than 2 years.
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Anecdotes about a few drives are meaningless. I have 12x Seagate 7200rpm 3TBs that have never had any issues. I had 3 WD 3TB drives that were DOA or died immediately. If I concluded that Seagate 3TB drives were ultra-reliable and WD sucks from that experience I would be horribly wrong.
 
There it is. For example, if your eight Seagate drives were shipped together or maybe in your install they got a mechanical shock together which led to an earlier death. Statistics is really badly hard :(
 
I have 10 of the 8TB archive drives in my 10 bay NAS running Raid 6.

been running for a year without issues. Yes, the write speeds can be a bit slow, but overall, I am very happy with them.
 
jordan12 said:
I have 10 of the 8TB archive drives in my 10 bay NAS running Raid 6.

been running for a year without issues. Yes, the write speeds can be a bit slow, but overall, I am very happy with them.
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Awesome, thank you for letting me know!
 
I just use a single one for my local CrashPlan backup. I'll probably redo that now that I have a new NAS online, but it's been as reliable as I need. Of course it's just 1 drive.
 
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