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SATA RAID, huh?

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Safarji

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NOTE: I DO NOT WANT TO USE RAID AT ALL, THIS POST HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RAID BUT IT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE onboard chip that controls the SATA and additional UATA connectors (the same one that also features, gasp, RAID)

OK FOR ALL THE NEW READERS, I WOULD LIKE TO REPHRASE MY THREAD TITLE TO: In XP I can't find my SATA Drive.

I have 1x Seagate SATA HDD which I dont want to RAID...
I have 3x PATA HDD's running as boot, system, etc.
I have Windows XP.
I have the Promise SCSI Drivers installed.

Why wont my new HDD detect like my old PATA Drives did, and just say hello, I'm here when windows starts?
The only place I can see that it's actually attached to my computer at all is through the FastBuild GUI (ctrl-f) before the boot screen. But I don't want RAID, I just want a standalone SATA Drive, this is the new format to superseed PATA right, so why isn't it all as straight forward then?


THANKYOU
 
the thin red cable for SATA should work, you should be able to flex it around and make it fit... i know this as i have a baby ata and its packed with shit.

anyway, you cannot run your raid drive, unless you get another identical one. end of story
 
do you have a configeration utility built onto your mobo? Does a screen come up during boot about setting up your RAID config? If not, go get the drivers from your manufacturor... BUT REMMEBER, YOU SAY YOU HAVE 1 DRIVE? YOU NEED 2 TO RUN RAID, END OF STORY
 
Newfie_Bilko said:
U Need 2 Equal Drives In Order To Use Your Drive At All
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NOT!!!!!




Just make sure SATA is enabled in the BIOS. You can boot SATA or IDE depending on what you want to do. I have 2 SATA drives and 1 IDE drive in my system. No RAID... I boot SATA so thats how I set it up in the BIOS
 
sorry i dont mean to get off topic, i waas pretty certain you need 2 identical drvies in order to have Raid though.
 
SORRY I GOT MY THREAD TITLE WRONG, I DO NOT WANT TO USE RAID!!!! I SHOULDN'T HAVE EVEN USED THE WORD, I SHOULDA SAID SCSI CONTROLLER.


ANYWAYS, just an update.

I went into the fast build utility, did an auto config, one drive, and loaded windows. Yey, now I can see the (cough, 200GB as 181GB, jipped, thats alot of GB"s to loose for an advertised 200GB drive) SATA drive in my storage disk managaner...

However, becasue I used the fastbuild it think's it's in striped mode and using raid, so I can't format as FAT32, only NTFS which I dont want...
 
hey, ,why Woulnd't you want NTFS, unless your running like win98... stick with the NTFS, its faster and mroe efficient for SATA drives.

And yea, thats 19GB lost.. but hell, its worth it for the speed bro.
 
I don't think it can be striped if you didn't screw up any of your other PATA drives. If you only have 1 SATA and it sees that drive, then its not striped. STriped means its using two drives to create a Raid array. Since you only have 1 200 (er..181) GB SATA drive, it can't be an ARRAY, even though it might be using the controller drivers to recognize the ONE drive.

Right click on my computer in WinXP, go to Manage, then click on disk management, You should see all your drives. You should then be able to tell Windows to paritition it any way you like and re-format it as you like (given its not your boot drive).
 
dabiggoober said:
I don't think it can be striped if you didn't screw up any of your other PATA drives. If you only have 1 SATA and it sees that drive, then its not striped. STriped means its using two drives to create a Raid array. Since you only have 1 200 (er..181) GB SATA drive, it can't be an ARRAY, even though it might be using the controller drivers to recognize the ONE drive.

Right click on my computer in WinXP, go to Manage, then click on disk management, You should see all your drives. You should then be able to tell Windows to paritition it any way you like and re-format it as you like (given its not your boot drive).
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I was gunna reccomend the same. U shoudl see your disks there even if they dont show up in explorer
 
Sounds like you RAID/SCSI controller doesn't suport JBOD mode. Without this support you cannot use you "RAID/Disk" controller to access drive as individual drives (even though the controllers bios sees the drive attached).

Please describe what model raid controller you're using.

JBOD = Just a bunch of disks.
 
Cong Sat said:
Sounds like you RAID/SCSI controller doesn't suport JBOD mode. Without this support you cannot use you "RAID/Disk" controller to access drive as individual drives (even though the controllers bios sees the drive attached).

Please describe what model raid controller you're using.

JBOD = Just a bunch of disks.
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But hes not running RAID. If he was, the 30GB drive would kinda thow things outta wack unluss he was using JBOD, but if he has the controller set to run the drives like normal, then a lack of JBOD support shound mean a damn thing
 
Cong Sat said:
Sounds like you RAID/SCSI controller doesn't suport JBOD mode. Without this support you cannot use you "RAID/Disk" controller to access drive as individual drives (even though the controllers bios sees the drive attached).

Please describe what model raid controller you're using.

JBOD = Just a bunch of disks.
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As far as I know it's just a Promise RAID 0+1 controller, inbuilt into the mobo!

You wouldn't belive the amount of searching I have done on the MSI website, through the MSI manuals, Seagate FAQ's anadtech, storagereview, here, etc. Just trying to find out how to install a SATA HDD, that will not be used for aything other than storage. And guess what, I figured it out myself.

Wll, I have no idea why it hs to be enabled in FastBuild, before Windows can recognize it, but it just does. I can only select Striped or Mirrored. I understand RAID enough to know that it shouldn't be mirrored, so striped it is. As soon as I entered Disk Manager, there it was wanting to partitioned and formated (it asked me to upgrade, but I declined) now it works.

What blunder they have made by giving SATA to people and skipping the basic install information, which was so important .It should be as simple as PATA is now with XP.
 
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