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Sapphire Good or Bad?

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I've heard about the newegg - Sapphire incident. What do you guys think. Whould this cause you to boycott their products? I've never owned a Sapphire product or heard much of them before.
 
At this point, I would only get a Sapphire if I was buying the X800Pro with hopes of modding it to an X800XTPE. Otherwise, I would go elsewhere.
 
sapphires are great. well they're the same as bba so you cant go wrong with them

oh on the subject about the boycott crap. it said on the box that the pros were 128bit. even on sites it says that. if the comsumers responsiblity to read what they are buying. that's it. sapphire did their job by putting it on the box
 
I heard that the fans have a tendancy to go out. Don't know if this is true or not.
 
Yeah, I recently heard about the Sapphire 9800 Pro 128bit incident. I checked my Sapphire 9800 Pro and it is 256bit. The ad for it stated it was 256bit, and this was before the 128bit incident. If what ForeverUnknown stated is true (they were advertised as 128bit), then I believe there is no reason to boycott Sapphire. However, if the 128bit cards were actually state\advertised to be 256bit, then I can understand why people want to boycott them.

By the way, Ive had my Sapphire 9800 Pro for about 6 months and its great. It has no problems.
 
ja391 said:
Yeah, I recently heard about the Sapphire 9800 Pro 128bit incident. I checked my Sapphire 9800 Pro and it is 256bit. The ad for it stated it was 256bit, and this was before the 128bit incident. If what ForeverUnknown stated is true (they were advertised as 128bit), then I believe there is no reason to boycott Sapphire. However, if the 128bit cards were actually state\advertised to be 256bit, then I can understand why people want to boycott them.

By the way, Ive had my Sapphire 9800 Pro for about 6 months and its great. It has no problems.
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yeah i agree. if they were falsely advertised then yes something should be done, but in this case, sapphire themselves did nothing wrong. if they're someone to blame, blame the stores that sell the cards.
 
oh here's a statement talking about the incident

From Sapphire to Rage3d
Since the roll-out of the SAPPHIRE 128-bit version of RADEON 9800 PRO core into the channel it has been brought to our attention that this model is being met with some confusion and for this we would like to extend our sincere apologies. Keeping with our level of interaction within the community, Sapphire is moving to alleviate said confusion by renaming the 128-bit version to the SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800 ATLANTIS and we are instructing each of our retail partners to clearly and prominently list the 128-bit specification. Further to this end, the SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800 ATLANTIS 128-bit products boxes will now be labeled with an oversized 128-bit sticker on the boxes face as well. Inquiries have been made into our retail partners and the investigation has yielded no findings that any of our loyal customers have been charged the 256-bit price for the 128-bit part. SAPPHIRE encourages any of our customers who purchased a 128-bit part under the assumption that it was 256-bit part to exercise your right to return your product. Should you have difficulty finding satisfaction with your retailer, SAPPHIRE continues to stand firmly behind our products and asks you to contact SAPPHIRE directly.

For end users in the U.S. who can not return the product to the supplier feel free to contact 909-594-3128. You will need to present the product, sales receipt and provide the discounted retail price difference of US$25.

For end users in Asia contact +852-2689-8888 and request the procedure for upgrade.

SAPPHIRE welcomes any and all inquiries into this matter in keeping with our commitment to our customers and welcomes the opportunity to continue to help outfit the gaming community with the industries most widely respected and innovative products.
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ForeverUnknown said:
oh here's a statement talking about the incident

From Sapphire to Rage3d
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I can't honestly believe that they didn't know that using the same name for the product wouldn't cause confusion for uneducated consumers. Although that "apology" looks very nice, I can't help but think that they are only doing it because they got blown up for trying to pull a fast one.
 
Ludic said:
I can't honestly believe that they didn't know that using the same name for the product wouldn't cause confusion for uneducated consumers. Although that "apology" looks very nice, I can't help but think that they are only doing it because they got blown up for trying to pull a fast one.
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I don't think they were trying to pull a fast one, I'm sure they know a lot of thier consumers are decently educated in the video card industry. Who knows the reason why they used the labels they did, I'm sure we never know. For all we know it was cheaper to just change the 256bit on the box to 128bit :confused: then change the Pro to SE
 
redhate said:
I've heard about the newegg - Sapphire incident. What do you guys think. Whould this cause you to boycott their products? I've never owned a Sapphire product or heard much of them before.
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I happened to be ordering parts for the computers I build here and grabbed one of those cards for $170... to be honest the user is more than happy but I never realized it was the 128 bit.... im debating RMA'ing it back and getting the 256 just on principle.. but im kinda unsure... the card itself is working well and performing nicely... but the whole idea was to get a card that wouldnt need to be upgraded too soon... an extra $25 for an extra 128bits sounds pretty fair to me...
 
got a sapphire and am very happy with it...if i was buying another ATI card now then they would be at the top of my list...very happy overall...
 
I have a sapphire 9500, it's overclocked and has been stable since day 1. Great card for the price.
 
Sapphire nevver showed the 128 bit cards as 256...it was stated clearly on the box. Blame the retailers that listed it wrongly...

Ever looked at a Sapphire and an ATI card? Identical...who do you think makes some of ATI's cards... :p


I love my Sapphire 9800P with an R360 core...
 
little info for the sapphire bashers .. the 128bit 9800 pro was ati's idea .. sapphire just sold the cards
 
I got my Sapphire 9800pro 128mb on newegg about 2 months ago and this is what i have found with ATi Tool.

R350 core
256mem bus
GPU Clock 378.00 Mhz
Memory 338.00 Mhz

guess i got a true 9800pro :)
 
Major_A said:
I heard that the fans have a tendancy to go out. Don't know if this is true or not.
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Mine did (the circular orb-ish heatsink, not the BBA), and I made the mistake to RMA my 9700NP back to them. After 11 weeks, I didn't know what to think... I was just happy to get my 9700 back. I then promptly installed a VGA Silencer and never looked back. :p
 
got my sapphire 9800 pro 2 days ago, my first ati card. and well, it took me from a 3dmarks01 score of 13900 to over 19000. 3dmark03 from 3200 to over 6200.

the boycott thing is stupid. people just dont want to take responsibility that they didnt read on the box that it said 128bit and not 256. also, sapphire is just a reseller, ati is the oem and who is responsible for the whole thing.
 
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