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Sandy Bridge Processors

TheGuyOnTheCouch said:
I just found out that Sandy Bridge E will be bringing Quad Channel RAM support...

"The recommendation is to only do 1 DIMM per channel for Desktop, but for the servers using the same processors they support 2 DIMM’s per channel."

Also, I can't get my system to POST properly when the FSB has been adjusted (BSCLK) to anything but 100MHZ. Going to try the I3 next. I am getting drivers for the board tomorrow, I think, along with a new Burrage and a SmackOver 2. Soooo excited.
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and again thanks
 
I'm jealous. I remember before core2 first came out and I had access to a couple intel dev boxes with core 2's in them. Good imes :)
 
I just got OCCT to give the CPU TOO HOT error after 30 minutes. This is with Turbo Mode, etc. Enabled. Stock cooling is a no go, I need to put an H70 on there tonight and keep it cool.

It's stable, though. It doesn't fail any tests prior to getting too hot (I think above 85 it shuts down OCCT)
 
Dude, you rock. Is posting this stuff going to get you in trouble?

How much is the 2400 gonna cost when it comes out?
 
Slow*Jim said:
Dude, you rock. Is posting this stuff going to get you in trouble?

How much is the 2400 gonna cost when it comes out?
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I don't know. Of all the things I can ask an engineer, pricing I wouldn't dare. That's not up to them and I'd not ask them. If I knew a person in sales or marketing, I'd ask.
 
Slow*Jim said:
Dude, you rock. Is posting this stuff going to get you in trouble?

How much is the 2400 gonna cost when it comes out?
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Unless I start going crazy with performance numbers, etc. I doubt I will be in any trouble. I didn't sign any NDA or agreement, but I also won't be divulging information that is too sensitive. Technical info, no problem, but I won't be posting a full on review or a lot of benchmarks.

What I am willing to do is run certain tests and see if the CPU works with certain software. ;)
 
Valset said:
BTW as far as not being able to OC the locked chips is there an architectural reason like AMD (if that is indeed the case) fusion line or is it a marketing decision in your opinion?
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As mentioned before, the clock generator was moved onto the CPU. That really doesn't tell the whole story though. It's an architectural decision that kills overclocking. Now the argument is it was needed for on die GPU. I'm not sure that's something I'm buying though TBH.
 
You are not splitting the atom here, so go ahead and post some results when you get the chance. Fu@%!
 
Please couchGuy I'm so curious about some reliable numbers. I will be doing a SB build when it comes out.
 
Excellent, thanks :) RAM prices were horrific when I bought my current system, but I ended up with 8GB of Kingston KHX2000 and I'll be pleased to re use it if I decide to upgrade.
 
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When they release the Sandy Bridge E Revisions with more PCI-E lanes, that will be interesting.

That will be the beast of all beasts. Crossfire X and SLI on CPU (Nvidia and AMD won't have any choice but to offer support.)
 
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TheGuyOnTheCouch said:
Sandybridge E has 32 Lanes of PCIe 3.0. ;)

That will be the beast of all beasts. Crossfire X and SLI on CPU (Nvidia and AMD won't have any choice but to offer support.)
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Sandybridge E.... is that going to be for Socket 2011? or another version of 1155 (I think it's now officially going to be the P67 chipset)
 
Have to remove all results due to NDA. Don't want to make Intel upset.

Check back in January.
 
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Mosher said:
Sandybridge E.... is that going to be for Socket 2011? or another version of 1155 (I think it's now officially going to be the P67 chipset)
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It is definitely the P67 Chipset. The board I am working with is the DP67BG from Intel.

SandyBridge E will likely be a different socket.
 
TheGuyOnTheCouch said:
It is definitely the P67 Chipset. The board I am working with is the DP67BG from Intel.

SandyBridge E will likely be a different socket.
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Nice, ok I wonder if most boards are gonna come with that many PCI-e channels and USB3/ Sata 6gb/s.

Thanks for answering questions!

And GAH I can't get to the link at work >.<
 
Why are Intel/AMD killing FSB overclocking and how are they doing it? That's part of the fun of enthusiast computing right now is that you take a mid level CPU and OC it to get even better performance than before.

TheGuyOnTheCouch said:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1454912

Overclocking now. :)
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Seeing some Overclockability is good but what technique are you using? Because that's only a 200 mhz clockspeed increase. Which is about 6% increase.
I can take a stock i7 920 from 2.66 ghz to 4.2 ghz with enough juice. That's a 57% clockspeed increase!!
 
They've already shown 5Ghz with air cooling on screen shots. The K version of these chips should over clock just fine for "normal" people. The multiplier may limit the extreme crowd to somewhere around 7Ghz, but I don't see that being a real issue with the majority of users.
 
It all comes down to pricing on K series.
But it's a pity i wanted to go with new i3 and hope for 5 Ghz ;)
 
vjcsmoke said:
Why are Intel/AMD killing FSB overclocking and how are they doing it? That's part of the fun of enthusiast computing right now is that you take a mid level CPU and OC it to get even better performance than before.



Seeing some Overclockability is good but what technique are you using? Because that's only a 200 mhz clockspeed increase. Which is about 6% increase.
I can take a stock i7 920 from 2.66 ghz to 4.2 ghz with enough juice. That's a 57% clockspeed increase!!
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Seeing as how I am getting two P67, one from Gigabyte and one from MSI, I am hopeful that I can overclock. The Intel board isn't the best OC'er
 
vjcsmoke said:
Seeing some Overclockability is good but what technique are you using? Because that's only a 200 mhz clockspeed increase. Which is about 6% increase.
I can take a stock i7 920 from 2.66 ghz to 4.2 ghz with enough juice. That's a 57% clockspeed increase!!
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Cool your jets, take a closer look at the pic. He didn't touch the multiplier in that shot, just the bus speed (BIOS??).
 
Because its bugging me. Barrage or Burrage?
And getting 6Mhz on the bus is more than Intel told us would be possible. Not bad.
 
robododo said:
Wait... I thought the clock generator was on-die? Am I mistaken?
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It is and its adjustable, but you can't go very far without the other clocks that depend on it going out of spec.
X68 will have dividers to keep those other clocks within tolerance to allow bclock overclocking as easily as X58.
 
@TheGuyOnTheCouch

Sandy Bridge E will have another variation of motherboards as it will support quad core right?
Also the i3 you have with which AMD's current cpus can be compared. Either tri-core or quad-core
 
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movdx said:
@TheGuyOnTheCouch

Sandy Bridge E will have another variation of motherboards as it will support quad core right?
Also the i3 you have with which AMD's current cpus can be compared. Either tei-core or quad-core
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Sandy Bridge E = s2011 = X68. Quad, Hex, and probably Octo chips available at various price points. -E is just a consumer marketed Xeon platform, with the "more cores more betters" message intact. Exactly the same as s1366. But for Sandy instead of Nehalem.
 
Unless you are using dry ice to go for records, are buying the $1k+ extreme editions, or honestly need the hex or octo cores and are ready/willing/able to pay for them, don't bother waiting for s2011/X68/Sandy-Bridge-E. Overclocking a 2500K to 4.3-4.6 on air will be enough CPU power for almost anyone.
 
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Unless you are using dry ice to go for records, are buying the $1k+ extreme editions, or honestly need the hex or octo cores and are ready/willing/able to pay for them, don't bother waiting for s2011/X68/Sandy-Bridge-E. Overclocking a 2500K to 4.3-4.6 on air will be enough CPU power for almost anyone.
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Mostly agree. For someone who really uses their OC 100% of the time (games and such), do we need the fancy control over frequency? I mean... the performance boosts from increased FSB over just a multiplier increase tend to be in the 3-5% range, don't they? It doesn't make sense to me to spend many times the money for a small incremental boost in performance (I'll save my pennies for more SSDs or faster GPUs).

Althought "enough CPU power for almost anyone" is a slippery slope. I remember thinking that when the first Intel Core Duo CPUs came out.
 
robododo said:
Althought "enough CPU power for almost anyone" is a slippery slope. I remember thinking that when the first Intel Core Duo CPUs came out.
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But that is true, outside of [H].

If you aren't a gamer, and you don't do some specific processor intensive things like lots of transcoding, heavy Photoshop or Premiere, ANY C2D is enough processor for almost anyone. It's not a false statement.

If I'm just doing general computer usage, I can't tell the difference between most processors out there Conroe or later. It's only when you really load them up that you might notice. We've come to a point where a lot of people don't upgrade because there isn't a need - they have "enough" power and there's no application they use which requires more. (Yet, anyways).
 
Can you confirm if 65x is the highest CPU multi you can use with 2600K? I saw some slides that supposedly showed 2500K would have 55x and 2600K would have 65x. Don't bother raising the blck, try raising CPU multiplier instead, that's what you got the "K" SKU for. :D

For air overclock that's more than enough but for LN2 overclockers even 65x will be an annoying limitation I bet.
 
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RPGWiZaRD said:
Can you confirm if 65x is the highest CPU multi you can use with 2600K? I saw some slides that supposedly showed 2500K would have 55x and 2600K would have 65x. Don't bother raising the blck, try raising CPU multiplier instead, that's what you got the "K" SKU for. :D

For air overclock that's more than enough but for LN2 overclockers even 65x will be an annoying limitation I bet.
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Like I said, I am waiting on P67 boards right now to OC with. :)
 
TheGuyOnTheCouch said:
Like I said, I am waiting on P67 boards right now to OC with. :)
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Too bad I'm dying to see more OC results, so far there's been 4.9GHz by Intel and Hicookie talking but not showing any screens of 5.2GHz oc on air and JCornel's 5GHz CPU-Z screenie, would be just nice to see if this one would also land around 5GHz then I start have my hopes for SB @ 5GHz may not be out of reach for non-cherry picked samples. JCornel appearently used 1.4v or less, I wouldn't probably use more than ~1.35v for 24/7 usage at most seeing how low vcore these CPUs run at by default so would be nice to know whereabouts we can expect max 24/7 clocks on air. :)
 
2600K will be more than enough for me but I hope my Q9550 will help me to skip it because I think the 8 core chips will give my small PPD a good boost in folding

 
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