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Sandy Bridge-E (Ivy bridge)

Sandy Bridge-E is not IB. IB will arrive first on the 1155 platform, then possibly on the 2011 platform in enthusiast guise in conjunction with SB-E.
 
It was supposed to be and as far as I know still is going to be socket 1155 and 2011. There would be no intelligent and imaginable reason for Intel to skip out on making an ivy bridge processor for their enthusiast socket. Although I cant imagine that the X79 powered 22nm chips will have a on die GPU. They will probably scrap the GPU and add another two cores. I imagine that there will be a true 8 core setup due to the inherently lower TDP due to the 22nm shrink. Just guessing. I have no information to back up my opinions.
 
tangoseal said:
It was supposed to be and as far as I know still is going to be socket 1155 and 2011. There would be no intelligent and imaginable reason for Intel to skip out on making an ivy bridge processor for their enthusiast socket. Although I cant imagine that the X79 powered 22nm chips will have a on die GPU. They will probably scrap the GPU and add another two cores. I imagine that there will be a true 8 core setup due to the inherently lower TDP due to the 22nm shrink. Just guessing. I have no information to back up my opinions.
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I actually think a top end Ivy-E will have on die GPU and 8 cores hyperthreaded.
Cost likely well over $1,000
I'll be happy with a low end 2011 CPU until the prices of the 8 core Ivy-E drops then I'll have an upgrade.
 
Anyone know if SB-E and/or IB 2011 will come in 4, 6, 8, and 12 core like the Xeon is supposedly going to, or just up to 8 core?

Sorry, ironsight, more info to mesh together in a blur!
 
At the moment, SB-E will be 4 or 6 core, and there is no real info about an IB-E afaik.
 
thats it. No real info. Its speculation. Makes sense that there will be one at some point. When and in what forms very few people outside of Intel know.
 
DejaWiz said:
Anyone know if SB-E and/or IB 2011 will come in 4, 6, 8, and 12 core like the Xeon is supposedly going to, or just up to 8 core?

Sorry, ironsight, more info to mesh together in a blur!
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Well according to many tech reports the current batch of 6 core 2011 32nm SDB-e chips are designed with 8 cores. However it appears that two cores are shutdown or locked down in order to stay with in TDP requirements of 130watts or something like that.

I imagine and sincerely hope that someone like EVGA with the SR3 or Asus Rampage IV etc... wil support core unlocking to release the power of those other 2 cores and also include the chokes and phases etc... to handle the extra TDP load.

As of right now with 130 watt / 6 cores you get around 21 watts per core so with 8 cores at 32nm you are looking at 170-180watt TDP and doesnt account for overclocking etc....

I dont understand why the desktop sector will be locked into 6 cores but you can get 8+ on the server variants. It doesnt make sense. The TDP should remain nearly the same no matter if it is a desktop or a Xeon but I might be missing something technical for that reason.

8 cores on 32nm are probably not going to happen in any fashion but it would be realy nice if we could do it some how. ONce again my opinion and only that.
 
Thread hijack:

Correct me if I'm wrong but:
Current: LGA1155 Sandy Bridge
Before the end of the year: LGA1155 Ivy Bridge (a die shrink and stuff ?)
Next yearish: LGA2011 Sandy Bridge-E (the true replacement for x58 ? quad channel ram, what else ?)
 
Bbq said:
Thread hijack:

Correct me if I'm wrong but:
Current: LGA1155 Sandy Bridge
Before the end of the year: LGA1155 Ivy Bridge (a die shrink and stuff ?)
Next yearish: LGA2011 Sandy Bridge-E (the true replacement for x58 ? quad channel ram, what else ?)
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Correction

Current: LGA1155 Sandy Bridge
Before the end of the year: LGA2011 Sandy Bridge-E - replacement of 1366 socket. enthusiast level cpus, quad channel mem. not sure what else.
Next Springish: LGA1155 Ivy Bridge - a die shrink, faster gpu, not sure what else
 
Next Springish: LGA1155 Ivy Bridge - a die shrink, faster gpu, not sure what else
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Lower power usage. I believe 77W TDP for highest end model.

Before the end of the year: LGA2011 Sandy Bridge-E - replacement of 1366 socket. enthusiast level cpus, quad channel mem. not sure what else.
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40 PCIe lanes. 4 to 6 cores + HT. Frequency + multiplier overclocking. 130W TDP for desktop 150W TDP for xeons (possibly 8 cores + HT for that)
 
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Tom's Hardware has and article with benchmarks for the i7-3960X. The only thing they don't cover is how easy it is to run at 5Ghz. That's what we really need to know. It still doesn't look that much more appealing than a 2500k unless you're rendering/encoding/folding and then it is still very expensive for boath boards and CPUs.
 
Zink said:
Tom's Hardware has and article with benchmarks for the i7-3960X. The only thing they don't cover is how easy it is to run at 5Ghz. That's what we really need to know. It still doesn't look that much more appealing than a 2500k unless you're rendering/encoding/folding and then it is still very expensive for boath boards and CPUs.
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I would not expect overclocking to be much better. These are the same process technology as SB. Although they will have a higher TDP, better / more expensive boards (designed to work with a higher TDP), frequency overclocking so there may be some advantage.
 
would a sandy-E or core i7 be ideal to encode and decode whatever to burn blu-ray movies?
 
UnrealCpu said:
would a sandy-E or core i7 be ideal to encode and decode whatever to burn blu-ray movies?
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Depends on if your software can effectively handle more than 7/8 threads.. Extra cores / threads do no good if they are idle.
 
What? NO!

Sandy Bridge-E is NOT Ivy Bridge.

Sandy-Bridge-E is just the extreme (enthusiast version) of Sandy Bridge chips, available on the enthusiast platform (2011).

Architecturaly, they are no different from LGA 1155 CPUs. The only advantages are on the platform itsled, Quad channel, Quad SLI/CF, more PCI lanes, etc.
 
This is what I've read so far:

Sandy Bridge E is coming out this November to Socket 2011 motherboards.

It is architecturally the same as Socket 1155 Sandy Bridge except with quad channel support, higher number of PCI-E lanes (16 vs. 8 I assume), faster memory support, and of course 2011 pins. It's an enthusiast CPU, hence the "E" designation.

Ivy Bridge is a completely new architecture. (Tick on Intel's cycle, Tock being SB-E.)

Best to read it here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4830/intels-ivy-bridge-architecture-exposed

- Higher throughput for integer and floating point operations
- 22 nm fabrication
- Higher 3D graphics performance (though I digress here since it's an Intel GPU)

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge#Ivy_Bridge
- 20% increased CPU performance over Sandy Bridge
- 60% increased GPU performance over SB

According to the last slide I've seen, Ivy Bridge will come to both socket 1155 and 2011 flavors. The reason I say this is that according to that slide, Sandy Bridge is compatible to 7-series chipsets (P7x, X7x like X79, etc.). All it will need is a BIOS update... if there is room to flash the BIOS that is.

You could take your Sandy Bridge E processor like the i7 3820 and put it in the 2011 motherboard coming this November. Hold onto the board until Ivy Bridge E hits (which I'm thinking after the Socket 1155 version comes out in March 2012), and update the BIOS and replace it with IVB-E CPU then.
 
I'd be very cautious with 1st gen mobos and their ability to run next gen CPUs. Might turn that although socket is the same, they would need more power phases, or anything, and simple bios update won't be sufficient.

I'd certainly wait, for some explanation from Intel or mobos producers, that their board will run the Ivy Bridge-E, or you might get unpleasant surprise.

WHat's more important is the prices. If I buy the $500 CPU now, there is no damn way I'll throw it away after 4 months to get IB-E edition.
 
MorgothPl said:
I'd be very cautious with 1st gen mobos and their ability to run next gen CPUs. Might turn that although socket is the same, they would need more power phases, or anything, and simple bios update won't be sufficient.

I'd certainly wait, for some explanation from Intel or mobos producers, that their board will run the Ivy Bridge-E, or you might get unpleasant surprise.

WHat's more important is the prices. If I buy the $500 CPU now, there is no damn way I'll throw it away after 4 months to get IB-E edition.
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That's true. Why spend $500 now for SB-E just to replace it next year? It wouldn't make any financial sense from a consumer's point of view.

I know SB E will have a max TDP of 130W. Ivy Bridge is supposedly lower which according to the slide I linked above and on Wikipedia puts highest TDP at 77W. o_O)

Crazy...

So, I think power and thermal envelopes on upcoming 2011 boards will handle Ivy Bridge fine.
 
WHat's more important is the prices. If I buy the $500 CPU now, there is no damn way I'll throw it away after 4 months to get IB-E edition.
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I would expect IB-E to be a year or so after SB-E not 4 months.

I know SB E will have a max TDP of 130W. Ivy Bridge is supposedly lower which according to the slide I linked above and on Wikipedia puts highest TDP at 77W. o_O)
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That is for the lga1155 platform which already has a 95W TDP max.
 
drescherjm said:
I would expect IB-E to be a year or so after SB-E not 4 months.
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I agree. Its just about been a year since SB first came out and its barely coming to E processors, so I see IB-E coming in about the same time limit as SB-E after SBs release.
 
Does anyone know what type of memory is required? I'm thinking of upgrading if it's coming out november 17th.
 
I believe official support goes up to DDR3 1600. I also expect Intel to keep the 1.5V max ram voltage that SB has.
 
octoberasian said:
You could take your Sandy Bridge E processor like the i7 3820 and put it in the 2011 motherboard coming this November. Hold onto the board until Ivy Bridge E hits (which I'm thinking after the Socket 1155 version comes out in March 2012), and update the BIOS and replace it with IVB-E CPU then.
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This!

That's my plan exactly. I'll be watching for the motherboard manufacturer's to be touting (IVY-E Ready) in thier propaganda.
 
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