Samsung 226BW 22": 3000:1 Contrast, 2ms response time

Yep - it's true. And I saw on a post on the Play website that their sales people have said they'll be getting the S Panel. Similarly, a guy called Mark at let's-haveit told me he'd been told by Samsug that their stock would be the S panel.
 
And by the way, I feel a noticable difference between this and my previous A panel, esp. with DVD movies - the S is much better and I haven't even calibrated it properly yet. Bought the A from Microanvika - looked like someone had already opened it to check if it's A or S - promptly returned it afer 1 night's testing, after hours trying to calibrate...
 
Thank you for your help, nsheikh. Although, i think i'd be better off getting the 206BW, instead. Wouldn't be picture be sharper due to the lower pixel pitch?
 
Hello guys,

I have experienced strange things with the 226bw lately and I wanted to share this experience with you:

First of all, this monitor does not have pixel scaling or 1:1 scaling or whatever you call it.

If you plug your monitor via the VGA output (hello laptop owners) and try to put this monitor in resolutions other than 1024x768 (wtf), 1280x768 (wtf again) and 1650x1080 it will result in the weirdest scaling ever...

BUT

On Windows XP, I have noticed that if I putted my laptop display in clone mode (with the 226bw) and adjusted the scaling options (of the laptop screen) it would be shared with the 226bw settings and scaling would become magically correct.

BUT

On Windows Vista, it is not working anymore... don't ask me why!

BUT

If you plug your monitor via DVI (bye bye laptop owners) everything will be fine and you will be able to map your pixels the way you want it.

This is a strange issue indeed. If you guys know how to tweak the scaling in Vista, please let me know ([email protected]) thanks in advance,
J0uM.

PS: Sorry for the english... it is not my mother tongue.
 
Hey all, thats my first post. :)

ok, now i decided to get the SAMSUNG 226BW monitor, first for PC normal use, and secondly for using it with the PS3 in the future.

Now after reading so much, i found out that the "S" panel is much better than the "A" "C" one, so i'll try as much as possible to get a "S" panel.

For the PS3, what should i use is a HDMI->DVI cable, but thats only for the video, for the audio i should use an RCA--> 3.5mm switch like this along with the normal PS3 AV cable but with only using audio cable (red, white).

I also read about the 16:9's stretch to 16:10, but it was also said thats its not a problem and the PS3 still looks awesome.
I heard some people says it works with 1080p although its max res is 1680x1050. I'll be happy with either 720p or 1080p btw. ;)

and i guess thats it. :)
Cheers.
 
Well i got mine today it was with the S panel, wery happy with it i would say its almost perfect. Almost no backlight bleeding, and much better than my 20" Lg i gave to my son. :)
 
There is the service monitor, to put down bright 0 and contrast 0 you know,,

first all, what is Panel Ch. no. ?

so i checked and its S panel, now for some case i clicked 5 sec more on the menu or down arrow button and suddently the Panel Ch. No went up from 0 to 1 and i wanted to revert but i couldnt, so for all the trys i got to 63 :\ .
and after that , the options in menu were locked, i couldnt change almost anything, but somehow i cleared the lock and its ok.

2nd question, are you able to change the Fine option from 0 ? for me its say locked and i dont remember if it was before so.


please if anyone can answer me, i was so lucky to get the S panel, i really dont want any problem with it. i am really scared from what i did in the service panel, i shouldnt got in to this scary thing
 
dch693 said:
Hmm....I don't know about that. If you're sitting directly in front of the monitor, unless it's tiled back or forward at and extreme angle, the left or right side of the screen should be as white as the rest of the screen. TN panel viewing angles are especially bad if you're look at the monitor from above or below, and you can even notice a difference in coloring from the top to the bottom of the screen if you're directly in front of it. However, the left and right side should look pretty much like the center of the screen, and should never look "brown".
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I took a picture of my screen on which you can see darker areas in the corners...It's just not acceptable or am I too demanding ?
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Speedway said:
I took a picture of my screen on which you can see darker areas in the corners...It's just not acceptable or am I too demanding ?
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same here, but I think it is because of the different viewing angle between the centre of the screen and the corners. If you move your head to the left or right do the darker areas disappear accordingly?
 
Mansize_tissue said:
It depends, do you notice it during normal use?
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I notice this when using applications with a lot of white in it... (e.g. google.com, mailclients and Word).

wanna_be said:
same here, but I think it is because of the different viewing angle between the centre of the screen and the corners. If you move your head to the left or right do the darker areas disappear accordingly?
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It doesn't disappear totally, it's just a very little bit less darker....but still noticeable.

I don't know if Samsung would count this as being a malfunctioning or a side effect of LCD technology ?

Greetings,
Bora
 
This one just went on sale today at Best Buy, $329... think I'll go bug a sales guy and see if I can dig up an S panel... if not I'll give that calibration thing a whirl and see if it's any good, otherwise I'll just have to return it. Wish me luck!
 
Warlokk said:
This one just went on sale today at Best Buy, $329... think I'll go bug a sales guy and see if I can dig up an S panel... if not I'll give that calibration thing a whirl and see if it's any good, otherwise I'll just have to return it. Wish me luck!
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Please let us know how it goes, I want one of these too...
I live in LA there are 3 BB within 10min of my house.
 
Well, I got one... the display model they had was an S model, so my hopes were high, but I ended up with a C, and it was the only other one they had... they wouldn't let me open the box in-store, so I opened it in the parking lot. It wasn't an A, so I decided to give it a shot. So far it looks great, although there is some backlight bleed at the top, but nothing I can't live with so far. They had the LG's too, in the non-Q model, for $30 more, so I knew if I got a bum one I could swap, but so far I'm satisfied.
 
Please can someone answer my question that were above ?

There is the service monitor, to put down bright 0 and contrast 0 you know,,

first all, what is Panel Ch. no. ?

so i checked and its S panel, now for some case i clicked 5 sec more on the menu or down arrow button and suddently the Panel Ch. No went up from 0 to 1 and i wanted to revert but i couldnt, so for all the trys i got to 63 :\ .
and after that , the options in menu were locked, i couldnt change almost anything, but somehow i cleared the lock and its ok.

2nd question, are you able to change the Fine option from 0 ? for me its say locked and i dont remember if it was before so.


please if anyone can answer me, i was so lucky to get the S panel, i really dont want any problem with it. i am really scared from what i did in the service panel, i shouldnt got in to this scary thing


Please please , i dont know what did i do, i just want to know nothing happend or changed that is unrevesble.

thanx in advance
 
I decided to jump on this deal as well, bought one from their latest batch and it was a C panel. Going from a 21" CRT which had a 19.7 view distance to this is quite nice, I finally have desk space ;p

Well as for the monitor I have found two dead pixels on the left hand side of the monitor. Not sure if I should replace it :confused: Could seriously use some suggestions.

As for the black light bleeding, its not too bad but unfortunately the monitor sits above my eye level and the view angle is kinda becoming an issue (maybe some desk re-arranging).

Will update later, maybe with pictures if I can get my hands on a camera.
 
So after a while, I managed to get the colors on this C panel to what I wanted (with room for improvement in the future). However, I have found that the panel suffers from a Mura effect. The top half of the screen is much darker than the bottom brighter half, the screen also has dark spots in the corners.

Quite a disappointment, gonna exchange it out and hope the LCD gods smile upon me :D
 
Thank you so much Not_So_Hard , you have no idea what thoughts i had, getting a S in this county is like 1-200000, and i really didnt want to get it for repair or anything else.

you answerd my question exacly and directly, thank you really really :D


and just a little other question, does any scaling expect Nvidia Scaling , works in XP32 ?
because everytime i choose another it revert back to Nvidia Scaling. in vista it doesnt happen.

and somehow when i had all Options locked in the menu panel, i couldnt change nothing, is there any lock up button in samsung monitor ? because i revert it by clicking on some button 5 sec when it was 100bright and 75constart, then it flashed and reopen again, it was really stressing.

Oh, and i am sorry for you you didnt find any S" model :\, you should deserv a S" model , XD
 
Dark_Seph said:
So after a while, I managed to get the colors on this C panel to what I wanted (with room for improvement in the future). However, I have found that the panel suffers from a Mura effect. The top half of the screen is much darker than the bottom brighter half, the screen also has dark spots in the corners.

Quite a disappointment, gonna exchange it out and hope the LCD gods smile upon me :D
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Good luck with the exchange. I can definitely say my S panel does not suffer from the problems your C panel does. Dunno if it's a difference in the panel, or if you just got a bad draw. Mine is a little lighter at the bottom of the screen, but it's barely noticeable. The corners of mine don't have dark spots. Hopefully the LCD you get when you swap will be better.
 
I was wondering if people with the S panel could tell me:

What do does Divx Movies (high quality ones not crappy 100mb ones) look like? i have heard they are quite blocky and the screen isnt suited for viewing these?

What do DVD's look like? Are they blocky?

Please only interested in S panel owners.

many thanks
 
Bry2 said:
I was wondering if people with the S panel could tell me:

What do does Divx Movies (high quality ones not crappy 100mb ones) look like? i have heard they are quite blocky and the screen isnt suited for viewing these?

What do DVD's look like? Are they blocky?

Please only interested in S panel owners.

many thanks
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I have casino royal encoded for divx ~750mb. and I'm running dual S panels. I have not had one issue with watching it. Quality is great! Along with my HD-DVD's :D And of course standard DVD's as well. I do most of my web work on one monitor, and throw a movie on the 2nd to keep my mind moving. ^_^
 
Yeah, I don't use Divx, but DVD's look fine on this screen, as long as you sit back a little. Right up close you can see some blockiness, but back 3 - 6 feet it looks just fine. I sat and watched a few minutes of several movies the other day just to check this out.

BTW, for anyone interested, the panel I just got from Newegg was a C panel. Guess I'm really lucky I grabbed one of the S panels from work... :D
 
As said earlier in this thread, lets have it are guaranteeing a S panel.
http://www.letshave-it.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=774
However, it doesn't say it on the page so i just emailed them and got this reply:
Bryan,

The panel that we supply is the S Panel.

Regards

Mark Bennett
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So if anyone is interested in purchasing one and can't wait for play.com then i recommend these.

p.s. thanks for the information regarding divx much appreciated.
 
Yes quality is great for Xvid and divx,


and one more notice, with your play a movie and you use OverlayMixer, does your menu buttons get locked ? i cant change niether the Bright and Constart, i want to know why, maybe because it uses the Graphics card brightness and Constart ?
 
Hey, great thread - to the extent I actually read most of it.

Bought a 226BW yesterday, and it's a C-panel. Now, almost all of the issues that were much lamented in this thread I feel I'm either fine with, or I've since resolved. I've calibrated the colours to the settings earlier in the thread, and they look great. The backlight bleed is minimal, I don't even notice, and the uniformity seems fine. I had a tearing issue in games, but Vsync resolves that.

What remains is a weird issue where in games, it just doesn't seem that the frame is updating as fast as it should be - despite them being games my card (a 8800 GTS 320mb) handles without breaking a sweat (UT2004, and HL2 specifically); fraps reports a consistent fps of 60. There's just a general swimminess that seems like it's framing, especially if I look around quickly. I'm not 100% sure if this is the same issue, but I found something that sounds consistent here:

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=734928&r=11552371#r11552371

If I do that colour pallette test I get the same weird bricking appearing in the pallette - in fact, even moving windows arounds doesn't seem nearly as smooth as it should be for a pseudo- (yes, I know about the RTA) 2ms screen. So here are my questions:

Does anyone here who has a C-panel (or A-panel) have a similar issue? Can those with S-panels confirm that this isn't an issue with their monitors? Any idea if it'll be possible to resolve this without returning the monitor, or shouldn't I bother trying..? I've never used a LCD for gaming before, so is it possible this is just something I'm going to get used to?

Really annoyed, because this is pretty much the only thing keeping me from being satisfied with my new purchase. In all other respects, it's gorgeous - except I guess the vertical viewing angles could be better, but that's another issue.

Thanks in advance.
 
Hi,

This is in response to the DVD quality question.

With my A panel, there was a lot of blockiness.

With the S panel, the quality is very good, even with any sort of calibration.

I can't comment about DivX as haven't used it on this panel yey.

Hope that helps.
 
I got this lcd a couple weeks ago and I love it. Its a C panel, but other than a little light bleeding at the top none of the problems others are experiencing. I also got a geat deal on it from Dell after $75 in dell dollars and a 15% off coupon with free shipping and a $20 rebate it came to around $198 with tax. I also had it at my door in less than 24 hours since it shipped from Fort Worth to Houston so yeah my whole experience has been great :)
 
I've got an S panel from launch. High resolution movies look great, but if you're going lower-res be sure you sit back away from the monitor a bit. The colors are very vibrant and dark after some tweaking. I notice some black-light-bleed from the top and bottem but only in the darkness. My biggest complaint is the banding which, while not overly obstructive, can be noticed if one knows to look for it. Overall however, a great monitor in terms of clarity, colors, and price. Highly recommended :)
 
Darric said:
Hey, great thread - to the extent I actually read most of it.

What remains is a weird issue where in games, it just doesn't seem that the frame is updating as fast as it should be - despite them being games my card (a 8800 GTS 320mb) handles without breaking a sweat (UT2004, and HL2 specifically); fraps reports a consistent fps of 60. There's just a general swimminess that seems like it's framing, especially if I look around quickly. I'm not 100% sure if this is the same issue, but I found something that sounds consistent here:

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=734928&r=11552371#r11552371

If I do that colour pallette test I get the same weird bricking appearing in the pallette - in fact, even moving windows arounds doesn't seem nearly as smooth as it should be for a pseudo- (yes, I know about the RTA) 2ms screen. So here are my questions:
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I've got the C panel. I can replicate this issue by moving the paint color palette around, but I haven't noticed it at all in games. I've been playing UT2004 and Oblivion on it.
 
Darric said:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=734928&r=11552371#r11552371

If I do that colour pallette test I get the same weird bricking appearing in the pallette - in fact, even moving windows arounds doesn't seem nearly as smooth as it should be for a pseudo- (yes, I know about the RTA) 2ms screen. So here are my questions:

Thanks in advance.
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I tried this and didn't notice anything suspect (I have an S panel). The pallete has little blocks in it when I don't move it, but they don't shift or anything when moving.
 
nsheikh said:
Hi,

This is in response to the DVD quality question.

With my A panel, there was a lot of blockiness.

With the S panel, the quality is very good, even with any sort of calibration.

I can't comment about DivX as haven't used it on this panel yey.

Hope that helps.
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I'm curious about this because pretty much every article I've ever read mentioned that blockiness with DVDs is the one big weakness with TN panels. What would make the S panel any different?

After calibration, the only problem I have with my A panel is blockiness with DVDs and "high quality" video from web sites such as the major networks. HD clips show a little grain here and there but are otherwise fine.

I came across this article earlier tonight which says that the key to resolving blockiness lies with your graphics card.

http://www.behardware.com/articles/...t-the-twinkling-effect-of-lcds-in-movies.html

My PC is a few years old and I realized I haven't updated the graphics card driver for quite a while. I plan on doing this tomorrow to see if it makes any difference.
 
Earlier I found a very clear way of illustrating my problem with the monitor - which was especially useful for convincing friends, who mostly thought I was just being picky and or insane.

I set up my old CRT and cloned the display on it, then in HL2, got in the hoverboat and just started spinning around in an outside area. Looking at the trees in the distance, they're crystal clear every frame on my CRT, but on the LCD it's like there's an awful motion blur that smears them out horrendously. Now I know that sounds nitpicky, but understand that it's something that I actually notice all the time playing a game with my new 226BW - what I just described is only a way of heightening the effect to make it noticeable to others.

I'm not satisfied with that sort of loss in clarity, especially seeing as gaming is my primary interest. I'll be returning the monitor as soon as I'm able. I have no idea if I'll have a similar experience with a S-panel or another LCD. Might try the same thing on the work PCs with Dell screens. Maybe my eyes are just overly sensitive, I don't know.
 
svgtom said:
I'm curious about this because pretty much every article I've ever read mentioned that blockiness with DVDs is the one big weakness with TN panels. What would make the S panel any different?

After calibration, the only problem I have with my A panel is blockiness with DVDs and "high quality" video from web sites such as the major networks. HD clips show a little grain here and there but are otherwise fine.

I came across this article earlier tonight which says that the key to resolving blockiness lies with your graphics card.

http://www.behardware.com/articles/...t-the-twinkling-effect-of-lcds-in-movies.html

My PC is a few years old and I realized I haven't updated the graphics card driver for quite a while. I plan on doing this tomorrow to see if it makes any difference.
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svgtom, I saw that article too. I found it after I had returned my A panel and was waiting for a replacement to ship to me. As soon as I hooked up my new C panel though, I saw no more twinkling or blockiness. I did not make any video card setting changes in between.
 
Returned and grabbed a non funky one, and guess what.. C panel :(.

Colors were much easier to adjust and it seems the banding is much less prominent. It does seem that the top still does seem to be darker, but at this point in time I think its more so of a viewing angle issue and not so much as a defect as before.

One more strange issue is that when the screen is completely black a grey mesh runs down the center in a somewhat wide region, not sure if this is a back light issue or what have you. Can only notice it with a complete black screen.

Time for the burnin.

-No dead pixels-
 
After reading the reviews, i took the plunge and bought one from the FutureShop. Came home and found out that its a " C " Panel. Ran all the caliberation test and surprisingly it does not have any of the dreaded flaws mentioned by OP's. There is a very small light bleed at the top and bottom but its barely noticable.

This display is too bright. Running it at Brightness at 30. Contrast at 45. Viewing angles are nothing to write about as its the case with all TN panels. Images looks crisp and clear.
I like to watch FTA on my monitor as i have Tuner card which burns shows directly on to the DVD's. I did not try the DVI-D as my video card do not have that option ( Looking for a cheap one ). Ran Photoshop CS2 and Lightroom and i can say that display and clarity is better then my aging Samsung 955 DF CRT.

SO far i am very happy with it and most probably will be keeping it.

BTW : The floor display in Futureshop was a S- panel.
 
On the sticker at the back of the monitor, at the top, there will be a long model/serial number, and at the end a single isolated letter - S, C or A.
 
Uh, is there any way I can set the monitor to run at 1440 x 900? In Windows and/or games.

Apologies if it's a stupid option, but I can't seem to set the resolution to anything but 1680x1050, or one of many non-widescreen variants. Is that normal? o_O
 
Darric said:
Uh, is there any way I can set the monitor to run at 1440 x 900? In Windows and/or games.

Apologies if it's a stupid option, but I can't seem to set the resolution to anything but 1680x1050, or one of many non-widescreen variants. Is that normal? o_O
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Are you running Windows? What are you using to set the resolution? You should be able to pick resolutions from the Control Panel display applet. I know my screen was originally running at 1280x1024 before I manually changed it to 1680x1050. Your video driver software might also allow you to set custom resolutions.
 
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