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Sage TV Question

i don't think it'll work with any of the AIW cards, if iirc it's because they have their own onboard sound outputs or something... samething with dscaler .... or it could be because it only supports tuner cards with onboard encoders?
 
MATTRESS said:
i don't think it'll work with any of the AIW cards, if iirc it's because they have their own onboard sound outputs or something... samething with dscaler .... or it could be because it only supports tuner cards with onboard encoders?
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yah, I'm pretty sure that sage only work with cards with hardware encoding.
 
For any real PVR work, you want a card with hardware encoders. The AIW and other software encoder cards are ok for watching TV on you computer, but not that great for heavy PVR work. The quality of the software encoders and the overhead just doesn't cut it.
 
m1abram said:
For any real PVR work, you want a card with hardware encoders. The AIW and other software encoder cards are ok for watching TV on you computer, but not that great for heavy PVR work. The quality of the software encoders and the overhead just doesn't cut it.
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QFT, Sage only supports Hardware encoding cards and nearly every card ATi makes (except the ATI E-Home Wonder) are "subpar" at best and only do software encoding. It's good for adding some multimedia options to your PC but it's not something you want to use to build an HTPC.
 
i have ATI E-HOME WONDER - it uses the same hardware encoder as the Hauppage cards. works with SageTV just fine. too bad it doesn't handle HD - i'm having to get an HD DVR from Comcast, now that i have an HD TV... :)
 
codeflux said:
i have ATI E-HOME WONDER - it uses the same hardware encoder as the Hauppage cards. works with SageTV just fine. too bad it doesn't handle HD - i'm having to get an HD DVR from Comcast, now that i have an HD TV... :)
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Might want to wait on that, the MCE2k5 update brings CableCard support later this year.
 
CrimandEvil said:
Might want to wait on that, the MCE2k5 update brings CableCard support later this year.
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interesting, but don't we still need hdtv tuners capable of tuning cable signals? the fusion cards won't be able to do that will they?
 
djskankho said:
interesting, but don't we still need hdtv tuners capable of tuning cable signals? the fusion cards won't be able to do that will they?
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A CableCard is what your Cable Company sents you for "Digital Ready" (or something like that) HDTVs that have the slot, it lets you tune Digital Cable channels as well as HD channels. What I'm saying is that it by passes the need for an OTA/QAM HD card. ;)
 
Interesting where did you see about adding cable-card support? This is the type of thing I have been waiting for to build a few htpc's for some friends.
 
Do you think other programs (ie sage) will adopt cable card support? Or will this be an MCE only thing because MS can build it into the OS and they have all that DRM crap?
 
Bighitter said:
Interesting where did you see about adding cable-card support? This is the type of thing I have been waiting for to build a few htpc's for some friends.
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Dont count on it now as its still is a year off. Also, since its past the July shutoff it will have DRM capabilities HDTV wise if an HDTV tuner card was made with this support.
 
Bighitter said:
Interesting where did you see about adding cable-card support? This is the type of thing I have been waiting for to build a few htpc's for some friends.
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CES and it's been reported on before, http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2317&p=5

djskankho said:
Do you think other programs (ie sage) will adopt cable card support?
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I hope so but I haven't heard much from them on it.

Dont count on it now as its still is a year off. Also, since its past the July shutoff it will have DRM capabilities HDTV wise if an HDTV tuner card was made with this support.
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The MCE update is scheduled for later this year for MCE2k5 and not a part of 2k6.

The real problem is that MS has probably been working with the Cable/sat companies in order to bring this feature to MCE so it might be entirely proprietaryand for sure will come with extra DRM and other restrictions.

Another problem is of hardware, the way it works is that you get the CableCard from your provider and then the MCE box has a decoder built in which is where you'd put the CableCard into. So it gets decoded and moved to a hardware encoder and then displayed. What I worry about is where or not we'll be able to buy the decoder for it or if we have to buy a supported MCE box with one in it.
 
CrimandEvil said:
A CableCard is what your Cable Company sents you for "Digital Ready" (or something like that) HDTVs that have the slot, it lets you tune Digital Cable channels as well as HD channels. What I'm saying is that it by passes the need for an OTA/QAM HD card. ;)
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The Cablecard only has information on it that allows the tuner to descramble cable channels (digital or analog, HD or SD). The Cablecard is in a PCMCIA form factor. You still need a QAM tuner, though.

Apparently cable companies are required to send local HD channels unscrambled, though. So no cablecard is required for those. You only need it for scrambled channels like DiscoveryHD, or HBO HD, etc...

If there is an OTA/QAM PCI tuner card with cablecard support coming soon, that is awesome.

Then all I'll need is a DirecTV tuner card with HD support. ;)
 
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