Saboteurs May Have Cut Undersea Cables

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The International Telecommunication Union says that all those undersea cables might have been cut intentionally. Jeez, ya think? I don’t think any rational person thought otherwise.

"We do not want to preempt the results of ongoing investigations, but we do not rule out that a deliberate act of sabotage caused the damage to the undersea cables over two weeks ago," the UN agency's head of development, Sami al-Murshed, told AFP.
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They are simply not ruling anything out, the way all investigators should look at things. Nothing is out of the question.
 
I see the price of Tin going up with all the tin hats they're gonna sell from this :D
 
I've always thought the cables couldn't handle the traffic this [H]ardForum created, and it broke.
 
Since no one else is saying it I will... Dolphins. They are smarter than you think, and they want more from us than fish!
 
Too much porn viewing in Iran. Their women are covered in burkas so they have to look at the internet to see ANY skin. Too much pent up energy getting released via one handed surfing.

All of that porn viewing is burning up the cables / bandwidth to them.
 
Azhar said:
I've always thought the cables couldn't handle the traffic this [H]ardForum created, and it broke.
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Maybe Chuck Norris registered at the [H]ardForum? The resulting surge broke the interweb conduits at the weakest points.
 
J-Mag said:
Anyone who wanted to damage the economy of the nations who used those cables has a motive to cut them.
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If it's to stop outsourcing.... I wonder if they need a hand? :D ;)
 
Hmm...I wonder who would want to knock Iran off the internet one week before Iran opened a non-US-dollar Oil Bourse....
 
InorganicMatter said:
Hmm...I wonder who would want to knock Iran off the internet one week before Iran opened a non-US-dollar Oil Bourse....
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Iran, its easier than opening it and playing the noone likes me game and gets them everything they so desperately wanted....attention.
 
InorganicMatter said:
Hmm...I wonder who would want to knock Iran off the internet one week before Iran opened a non-US-dollar Oil Bourse....
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Obviously, not the United States. Cuz if they really wanted Iran cut off. . . Iran would be cut off. They wouldn't cut a few cables, leave things slower but still functional, and then just stop. Or, is this where the tinfoil hat brigade pats themselves on the back and says: "But we stopped them with our internet forum vigilance!"?

My understanding is that it's closed societies like North Korea and their ilk (to a lesser extent, nations like Iran) that would value cutting its people off from the "disruptive influence" of the interwebs.

If I had to make a guess as to who was cutting cables (if anyone), I'd say it was a nation in the middle-east itself doing it. A closed society has a lot more to gain from cutting itself off than an outside power would have to gain from imposing internet isolation.

And. . . those of you who think that this was some sort of "dry run" test by the U.S. or other western power. . . just think for a minute: First, a competent intelligence/military entity doesn't need to test against the real thing. Second, they wouldn't want to test against the real thing as it would prepare their adversary for such an event in the future.

But, it sure is revealing of folk's predilections and biases to see the conclusions to which people have lept over the last few weeks via these threads (and elsewhere).
 
Hurin said:
Obviously, not the United States. Cuz if they really wanted Iran cut off. . . Iran would be cut off. They wouldn't cut a few cables, leave things slower but still functional, and then just stop. Or, is this where the tinfoil hat brigade pats themselves on the back and says: "But we stopped them with our internet forum vigilance!"?

My understanding is that it's closed societies like North Korea and their ilk (to a lesser extent, nations like Iran) that would value cutting its people off from the "disruptive influence" of the interwebs.

If I had to make a guess as to who was cutting cables (if anyone), I'd say it was a nation in the middle-east itself doing it. A closed society has a lot more to gain from cutting itself off than an outside power would have to gain from imposing internet isolation.

And. . . those of you who think that this was some sort of "dry run" test by the U.S. or other western power. . . just think for a minute: First, a competent intelligence/military entity doesn't need to test against the real thing. Second, they wouldn't want to test against the real thing as it would prepare their adversary for such an event in the future.

But, it sure is revealing of folk's predilections and biases to see the conclusions to which people have lept over the last few weeks via these threads (and elsewhere).
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If a country wanted to do it to themselves, why wouldn't they just do at the ISP? Unplug the servers, arrest the admins, confiscate the computers, etc.

There is too much guile in this story, most of those closed countries wouldn't hesitate to outlaw the internet if they really wanted too.
 
Burning_Monk said:
If a country wanted to do it to themselves, why wouldn't they just do at the ISP? Unplug the servers, arrest the admins, confiscate the computers, etc.

There is too much guile in this story, most of those closed countries wouldn't hesitate to outlaw the internet if they really wanted too.
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If you wanted to cut off the internet but didn't want to actually take responsibility for it? I note that you said "most." That implies that there are at least some that would elect to cut themselves off in a fashion that provides them some "plausible deniability" both with their own people and with the international community.
 
Self-induced seems more likely to me as well. Why not pay some tanker captains to just drop anchor and forget to pull it up? Very easy. I like EndWar's predictions: Iran and Saudi Arabia blow each other up with nukes. Seems oh so possible to me.
 
Hurin said:
If you wanted to cut off the internet but didn't want to actually take responsibility for it? I note that you said "most." That implies that there are at least some that would elect to cut themselves off in a fashion that provides them some "plausible deniability" both with their own people and with the international community.
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But they didn't cut off the internet for the whole region, not even for a whole country. Lots lost it, some still had it and for the most part it was back up in short time. A country that wanted to take out their own internet could do so without resorting to this extreme a measure and without alienating themselves from their neighbors. If the truth ever came out that a country actually did this the political backfire would be horrible. There are just easier and more probable ways of removing the internet from your citizens without sabotaging an entire region. Especially if it's only doing to be down for a week or so.

If these oppressive regimes really wanted to stop the internet, they isn't really anything stopping them from within their own borders. Not to mention an unknown loss of internet could seriously effect your own economy.
 
mcasagrande said:
GOOD, stop shipping our IT jobs over seas
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That moronic statement sounds vaugely familiar:

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I think I might have either found Larry the Cable Guy's forum-bot, or someone who seriously beleives in this and just learned about copypasta. What ever happened to the good days of trolling, back when people spent at least 5 seconds rewording a post?
 
Burning_Monk said:
But they didn't cut off the internet for the whole region, not even for a whole country. Lots lost it, some still had it and for the most part it was back up in short time. A country that wanted to take out their own internet could do so without resorting to this extreme a measure and without alienating themselves from their neighbors. If the truth ever came out that a country actually did this the political backfire would be horrible. There are just easier and more probable ways of removing the internet from your citizens without sabotaging an entire region. Especially if it's only doing to be down for a week or so.

If these oppressive regimes really wanted to stop the internet, they isn't really anything stopping them from within their own borders. Not to mention an unknown loss of internet could seriously effect your own economy.
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You arguments works the other way around, too. A country that wanted to cut off Internet to another country wouldn't do so by cutting five major undersea cables and therefore cut off entire regions that they weren't targeting and draw attention to the issue.
 
They need someone to investigate beside the lame idiots at the UN. The biggest lame ducks on the planet. They will probably come to the conclusion that dolphins did it.
 
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