Back when I built this box, I had some mixed feelings about it. 8 cores on the cheap? That was nice. And I was happy to see AMD not sucking. But some major BIOS update issues and subsequent Intel releases took the bloom off the build. Recently I took some time to clean my machine of crapware, update software, air out the dustbunnies, grab the new BIOS, update drivers, etc... You know, the annual cleanup. I decided to run a few quick benchmarks to see how things changed in the intervening time. First off, when I built the machine I was able to run the RAM at 3000 (really 2933 because of some weird multiplier issue with Ryzen motherboards). Subsequent BIOS builds broke that, and I was stuck at 2133 for a while. Eventually, 2666 was reenabled, and then 2800 eventually became possible too. But when I ran the latest BIOS, I was able to get 2933 back. Keep in mind, I'm running 32GB double-sided RAM, so 2933 is pretty good for that. Also, startup time has reduced from ~25 seconds when I built the machine, to roundabout 12 seconds now. Significant improvement. Cinebench shows a smallish gain of ~2% in both single core and multi core. Don't know why. Could just be noise. Overclocking speed is the same. Still stuck at 4GHz. Anything higher runs hot and unstable. But I was able to lower the voltage a hair and run a bit cooler, while still retaining stability. Games show a significant improvement. Running benchmarks on AotS shows a 20% increase in FPS. Other games aren't nearly as impressive as that, but there were gains in every benchmark I ran, ranging from a few percent to double-digits. How much of that is optimization, and how much is AMD and/or motherboard BIOS/Agesa changes, I couldn't tell you. Some of both, probably. Compiling is a little quicker. Photoshop is a bit faster. Rendering out of After Effects is more or less unchanged, but still fast (8 cores is nice). The whole machine feels a little fresher and faster. But some of that is undoubtedly due to the removal of accumulated crapware. Overall, this is a fast machine and I have few complaints now. It did take AMD a while to get this platform really in order, though. The RAM dropping to 2133 way back was irritating as all hell. All good now. Would buy again.