SomeGuy133
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the issue is the destruction. It would have been easy enough to find a place for those structures or return them to the original owner vs destroy them. Thats the issue. The city just doesn't care and doesn't want to make a solution. They rather ignore the issue and destroy any helpful ideas.
the food thing is BS all in all. Homeless getting sick? Please. That is a cop out excuse. sick/starve....is there a difference? Just saying....its illogical either way but here is the thing. It has nothing to do with bad food. You go read those stories it has to do with the city not liking homeless people being in the public. City officials are notorious about doing everything possible to make homeless people invisible to the general public. The cities never actually give a toot about them.
Feeding the Homeless Without Permission No Longer Illegal in Dallas--If You Have the Right Motive
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only religious people can feed the hungry. If you are an atheist and feel bad for them too bad your getting fined and arrested. -_-
Bans on Feeding the Homeless Are Discriminatory and Unconstitutional
The Case Against Government Bans on Feeding the Homeless
Bans on Sharing Food With Homeless Persist
Los Angeles Considers Ban on Publicly Feeding Homeless People
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How Will We Help the Homeless Without Government, Which Just Sent Squads of Cops to Destroy "Microhouses" for Homeless on Government Property in Denver?
Resurrection Village: Denver Police Destroy Tiny Homes and Arrest Builders - UNICORN RIOT
Nevada City to Require Homeless to Have A Permit to Sleep Outside
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you need a permit to sleep outside
Don't get me wrong i don't agree with all of these cases but the issue at hand is people are trying to help the homeless and needy and government consistently blocks attempts and finds ways for it to be impossible to help them. Or they create walls of red tape to do it and want to charge you in the process. You know you got to pay the government before you can feed the poor. The government has to take its cut.
A lot of this wouldn't be an issue if the red tape wasn't ridiculous and didn't come with fee/fines whatever you want to call it.
BTW it is inherently more expensive to house homeless in jails and thats where many go. Depending on the jail if my memory serves me it costs 30-150K a year for a jail/prison. The average is 30-40K IIRC.
That's why the millions we house a year in jail and prison is stupid but over criminalization is sorta a side issue. This issue does play a role in over criminalization* though.
*not sure if thats a word but whatever
So as i said...it isn't about unsafe food. Cities hate the homeless....they even tried outlawing it lol
the food thing is BS all in all. Homeless getting sick? Please. That is a cop out excuse. sick/starve....is there a difference? Just saying....its illogical either way but here is the thing. It has nothing to do with bad food. You go read those stories it has to do with the city not liking homeless people being in the public. City officials are notorious about doing everything possible to make homeless people invisible to the general public. The cities never actually give a toot about them.
Feeding the Homeless Without Permission No Longer Illegal in Dallas--If You Have the Right Motive
^^^
only religious people can feed the hungry. If you are an atheist and feel bad for them too bad your getting fined and arrested. -_-
Bans on Feeding the Homeless Are Discriminatory and Unconstitutional
The Case Against Government Bans on Feeding the Homeless
Bans on Sharing Food With Homeless Persist
Los Angeles Considers Ban on Publicly Feeding Homeless People
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-_-If the purpose of the legislation is to reduce the presence of homeless people in public though, then why don't cities ban homelessness outright? It turns out that politicians actually tried just that in Los Angeles in the early 2000's. The city passed an ordinance that made it illegal to sleep on the street. However, a judge eventually overturned it as unconstitutional.
How Will We Help the Homeless Without Government, Which Just Sent Squads of Cops to Destroy "Microhouses" for Homeless on Government Property in Denver?
Resurrection Village: Denver Police Destroy Tiny Homes and Arrest Builders - UNICORN RIOT
Nevada City to Require Homeless to Have A Permit to Sleep Outside
^^^^^
you need a permit to sleep outside
Don't get me wrong i don't agree with all of these cases but the issue at hand is people are trying to help the homeless and needy and government consistently blocks attempts and finds ways for it to be impossible to help them. Or they create walls of red tape to do it and want to charge you in the process. You know you got to pay the government before you can feed the poor. The government has to take its cut.
A lot of this wouldn't be an issue if the red tape wasn't ridiculous and didn't come with fee/fines whatever you want to call it.
Speaking to CBS, Wickham clarified his proposals: "The goal is to start managing the homeless population within our city," he said. "It just basically means you can’t set up a tent. You can’t live in your vehicle. You can’t live in the woods in Nevada City."
The law will make only a few exceptions and give out a small number of permits that allow public sleeping. The ordinance aims to reduce the crime and trouble supposedly caused by the swelling homeless population. The police chief is to give out about 6 to 10 permits initially, and will look to review the program in 6 months to check whether it is working. Wickham has identified at least 60 homeless people in the immediate community and up to 500 countywide. Any homeless person found sleeping in public without a permit will be arrested.
‘one-of-a-kind’ even though Colorado’s Denver City Council passed a similar “no camping” ordinance back in 2010. The ACLU opposed Denver's move at the time deeming it “unnecessary, mean-spirited and potentially unconstitutional.”
BTW it is inherently more expensive to house homeless in jails and thats where many go. Depending on the jail if my memory serves me it costs 30-150K a year for a jail/prison. The average is 30-40K IIRC.
That's why the millions we house a year in jail and prison is stupid but over criminalization is sorta a side issue. This issue does play a role in over criminalization* though.
*not sure if thats a word but whatever
So as i said...it isn't about unsafe food. Cities hate the homeless....they even tried outlawing it lol
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