Ripping main film fro a Blu-Ray to an mkv?

SocceRich20

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I've gotten as far as ripping my Blu-Ray discs to .iso files, and my next goal is to rip just the movie itself to a playable file. So far, I've tried using Handbrake, MakeMKV, and Ripbot264, none of which have worked for me. I want the quality of the main film to remain completely perfect in full 1080p.

Is there any way to cut extras out of an ISO image or Folder rip of a Blu-ray? Essentially keeping the main movie and the menu there, but deleting the extra languages, director commentary, behind the scenes crap, etc?
 
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You need eac3to. I also use the HdBrStreamExtractor GUI for it. No need to rip the movie first. This will pull it straight from the disc. You can choose chapters and subtitles if you wish. Pull it off as MKV. Pull the audio as FLAC or AC3.
Then you use mkvmerge to put the audio and video into a mkv container. Done.

There are more things you could do based upon your needs but this is the most basic example.

You'll also need anydvdhd installed. I hear you need arcsoft 2 for DTS encoding. Another app for working with subtitles(which you may want to do if the movie has forced subtitles or it's a foreign film) is BDsup2sub. I rip the subtitles and open it with that to see if any are forced. If they are I include it in mkvmerge, if not, I don't.

If you want to re-encode the movie to shrink it down in size that's a whole other process that i'm not familiar with. But i'm sure others here can provide info on that if you want it.
 
I use anydvdhd to rip the disk, eac3to to convert the video to .mkv and rip out the sound, (either .dts, .ac3, .flac or .wav [for pcm]) and mkvmergegui to glue the sound and movie together, basically what archer75 said. Very easy, and keeps the quality identical to the original.
Don't have arcsoft stuff installed, but maybe the Vista Codecs by shark007.net installed it for me, because I have no problem with .dts or anything else.
 
This is what I picked up from another forum in regard to arcosft:

If the track you have has either dts Master Audio or dts High Resolution Audio then to MAKE A CONVERSION TO LOSSLESS FLAC you must have Arcsofts Total Media Theatre (TMT) installed (On your SYSTEM DRIVE i.e. C) or the best you can hope for with ffmpeg supplied with eac3to is the "core" legacy dts track. TMT is NO longer available for download (used to download a time limited full version of software) but since I'm a nice guy you can down load it here (this is the trail version for 30 days, after this you will have to buy it or do a frewsh install of your OS drive to use it again ...DO NOT ASK FOR CRACKED VERSIONS/KEYGENS etc):

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JHKJLL7D

I found some more info on it here:

The Sonic (E-)AC3 decoder forcefully applies DRC. As a result I do not recommend to use the Sonic (E-)AC3 decoder. The current version of the Sonic TrueHD decoder doesn't work properly at all. The Sonic DTS decoder is very good for DTS, DTS-ES, DTS-96/24, DTS-HD Master Audio and DTS-HD High Resolution tracks. The only problem is that it decodes DTS-HD 7.1 tracks only as 5.1. Most DTS-ES and DTS-HD Master Audio 6.1 tracks are fully decoded as 6.1, though. The Nero (E-)AC3 and Nero TrueHD decoders are working perfectly fine, but are limited to 5.1 channels. The Nero DTS decoder ignores the additional DTS-HD information and only decodes the DTS core. The Cyberlink decoders always only output 16bit and can't be used outside of PowerDVD. So they currently do not make a lot of sense for eac3to. The libav/ffmpeg (E-)AC3 and DTS decoders work really well, but the output is not 100% identical to the Dolby/DTS reference decoders. I'm not sure whether there's a difference in audio quality. Decide for yourself. The libav/ffmpeg (E-)AC3 and DTS decoders are both limited to 5.1. Furthermore the DTS decoder ignores the additional DTS-HD information. The libav/ffmpeg TrueHD decoder works perfectly fine including full 7.1 decoding. The ArcSoft DTS decoder seems to be perfect for DTS and DTS-HD decoding. It supports every format and channel configuration that exists including 6.1 and 7.1. The ArcSoft TrueHD and ArcSoft (E-)AC3 decoders are currently not supported by eac3to.
 
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As was said, you'll need a rip tool such as AnyDVD HD, and then EAC3TO.
Mastering all the CLI settings for EAC3TO can be very challenging, thus many people use the front-end tools listed in this thread. I have been using RipBot264 with good success on my BluRays. Honestly, I can't tell the difference with a H264 compressed video with a high CQ setting (say 20 or 18), and the original disk, and it saves 20+ GB per disk. I save them into the AVCHD container, but you can also use MKV.
 
Honestly, I can't tell the difference with a H264 compressed video with a high CQ setting (say 20 or 18), and the original disk, and it saves 20+ GB per disk. I save them into the AVCHD container, but you can also use MKV.

I agree. I've been using RipBot264 with the 4.0 profile and a high CQ setting of 18 and the video quality is impressive for the file size.
 
I agree. I've been using RipBot264 with the 4.0 profile and a high CQ setting of 18 and the video quality is impressive for the file size.

What file size are we talking about? Using EAC3to with no compression whatsoever I just ripped a movie to MKV with lossless flac audio and the file size came in just under 17gb. Not bad.

Here are the guides for ripping BD:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1033822
 
Not bad at all. Using RipBot264 with that particular profile, I've experienced that the file size really depends on the movie. "I Am Legend" resulted in a 10GB file, while "Watchmen" was as large as 22GB.
 
I've only done two Blu-Rays so far and Casino Royale collector's edition came out to 10gb profile and Lord of War came out to be 11.9GB. Both were done using the 4.1 profile.

I'll be going to my parent's this weekend to pick up desktop computer with a core2quad and will be encoding more when I get back. I'll have to see how Quantum of Solace, Batman Begins, The Kingdom and Black Hawk Down come out.
 
I rip BD's with AnyDVD HD, demux, and run the video file through MeGUI with a scratchpad x264 profile per the source, takes experimentation to get the right settings, but the results are worth it, eac3to to strip the core audio (no HD audio for me, and it save GB's of space) then remux it with the audio in mkvmerge. Ripbot was good, but it lacks complete control over x264, and eac3to is good, but I am not a commandline guy unless I am just throwing the .m2ts into a mkv with no compression.
 
Is there any way to cut extras out of an ISO image or Folder rip of a Blu-ray? Essentially keeping the main movie and the menu there, but deleting the extra languages, director commentary, behind the scenes crap, etc?
 
There are two ways to do it, that are the easiest and dont require transcoding and hours of CPU time.

1080p/7.1 FLAC: AnyDVD-HD + EAC3to + HdBrStreamExtractor GUI + MKVtoolnix(MKVMerge)
1080p/5.1 AC3: AnyDVD-HD + MakeMKV

If you want even smaller files then you have to transcode.
Command line will get you the best results, but you can use Handrake or meGui as well.
I dont recomend that because it takes forever.
 
Depends on the person if they can tell or not.
AC3 is only 5.1, but if you extract to FLAC then it will be 8channel aka 7.1

Is FLAC better than AC3? Yes.....but can you tell? Maybe
 
Depends on the person if they can tell or not.
AC3 is only 5.1, but if you extract to FLAC then it will be 8channel aka 7.1

Is FLAC better than AC3? Yes.....but can you tell? Maybe

I've compiled an MKV using FLAC, but when I play the MKV in Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre 3, it won't play the audio. What do I need to install to get an MKV with FLAC audio to play in TotalMedia Theatre 3?
 
Is FLAC noticeably better than AC3?

FLAC is just for PCM audio. People use FLAC primarily for lossless Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD so you get all the sound. The only way to bitstream this HD audio from your PC is with an expensive Asus HDAV card. If you don't have that your player software such as powerdvd and arcsoft will down rez the audio.
So ripping a TrueHD or DTS-HD audio track to flac gives you 100% of the audio. It's not downsampled. It's not compressed.

Is it better than AC3? No. It's more or less the same thing. The audio has been decoded and encoded into FLAC so it's the same audio. Bit for bit. And your receiver picks it up as PCM. AC3 is still lossy. You receiver doesn't decode PCM as it's already been done. It just sends it straight to the speakers it's supposed to go to, same as if the AC3 audio was decoded by your receiver and then sent to the speakers.

If I were ripping those audio formats i'd probably just leave them as they are and not use FLAC. But that's just me. I leave FLAC for my HD audio formats.

To play flac you need the madflac codec. From what i've been told it's the only 24bit flac codec. This is beneficial for those HD audio formats. You could use ffdshow but as far as I know it's not 24bit. If you care about such things.
 
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FLAC is just for PCM audio. People use FLAC primarily for lossless Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD so you get all the sound. The only way to bitstream this HD audio from your PC is with an expensive Asus HDAV card. If you don't have that your player software such as powerdvd and arcsoft will down rez the audio.
So ripping a TrueHD or DTS-HD audio track to flac gives you 100% of the audio. It's not downsampled. It's not compressed.

Is it better than AC3? No. It's more or less the same thing. The audio has been decoded and encoded into FLAC so it's the same audio. Bit for bit. And your receiver picks it up as PCM. AC3 is still lossy. You receiver doesn't decode PCM as it's already been done. It just sends it straight to the speakers it's supposed to go to, same as if the AC3 audio was decoded by your receiver and then sent to the speakers.

If I were ripping those audio formats i'd probably just leave them as they are and not use FLAC. But that's just me. I leave FLAC for my HD audio formats.

To play flac you need the madflac codec. From what i've been told it's the only 24bit flac codec. This is beneficial for those HD audio formats. You could use ffdshow but as far as I know it's not 24bit. If you care about such things.

Does an Auzentech X-Fi Prelude offer the special features that the ASUS HDAV card does that allows it to harness the sound quality?
 
Does an Auzentech X-Fi Prelude offer the special features that the ASUS HDAV card does that allows it to harness the sound quality?

Nope. The ONLY card is the asus hdav. Auzentech is supposed to be coming out with a card that can do this but so far it's a no show.
 
This is why when I encode my Blu-Rays to MKV with ripbot264 I just select the highest level AC3. If or when I get an AVR and sound card or video card that support 7.1, True-HD or the other lossless formats I will then just remux with the new audio since the video is already done.
 
Stream it to a PS3. The PS3 decode TrueHD and can bitstream PCM to the receiver :)

That's not bitstreaming. It's already been decoded, thus LPCM. Bitstreaming is passing the audio to the receiver for decoding.

Nor can you pass it form the PC to a PS3 to a receiver. For the PS3 to decode it you would have to bitstream it from the PC. And if you can do that you would just send it straight to the receiver.

You just encode the audio as flac and stream it to your receiver. You get 100% of the audio.
 
LPCM is what I meant. Sorry.

WHere does it say that streaming from the PC to the PS3 doesn't allow the PS3 to decode it?
 
LPCM is what I meant. Sorry.

WHere does it say that streaming from the PC to the PS3 doesn't allow the PS3 to decode it?

Because you have to bitstream from the PC. You can't bitstream those audio formats without the asus hdav card. Period.
If you could bitstream those you wouldn't be sending them to a PS3. It would be pointless. You'd send it straight to your receiver to decode.

A PC can decode those formats now. It just downsamples them. But we are talking BD rips here. A person just rips it to FLAC and passes it out. Done.

There is no need whatsoever for a PS3 in any of this. And he doesn't have one.
 
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