Rethinking the 24" LCD

[Overspeed]

Ok, like so many others who were waiting on the Dell 2408WFP reviews, we have found the display has poor input lag issues. Not suprising since the panel used is the same as the Sammy 245T which held the record for worst lag times in the 24" range. I must now rethink my options. One thing that must not change is I need an 8bit panel ... unless of course there are TN's out there capable of reproducing 92% color. Banding is a big no no for the work I do. Now I've done my research on this. Seems the candidates are:

• NEC 2470 - Fairly well received but sneared at because of lack of inputs/options, and screen flicker in certain situatiuons when gaming/movies. Bulky size and high price.

• BenQ FP241v & FP241vw - Good and bad reviews all around. Not convinced.

• LG L246WP - Mixed reviews also

• Hyundai W241D - Not available in North America

I won't consider the 2407WFP or the 245T for obvious reasons. I will also not consider the Soyo. I'm not sure whats left out there. My main concerns are 8bit panel, less than 30ms input lag. Price I could care less, maybe up to $1000 budget. After that it would be nice if:

1:1 mapping + HDMI
Height adjustment
6ms max response
at least 1000:1 contrast (preferred no dynamic)

From what I can tell, such an LCD doesn't not exist at this time. The 2408WFP was to be it, seems not. I would still value your thoughts if I have missed anything. I would also consider a 26" but the main criteria would have to be met, 8bit and very low input lag. Cheers

 

[dizzyegg]

Well I was looking at the 2408 too, shame about this input lag, but as this is the first time I have spent a decent amount of money on a monitor im still learning what all this means.
Need something to play the xbox360 on, thought the 2408 was right up my street, but i think the input lag will affect my gaming experience.
but from what i can gather this is the only monitor worth considering.

 

[verylostindeed]

Ok, like so many others who were waiting on the Dell 2408WFP reviews, we have found the display has poor input lag issues. Not suprising since the panel used is the same as the Sammy 245T which held the record for worst lag times in the 24" range. I must now rethink my options. One thing that must not change is I need an 8bit panel ... unless of course there are TN's out there capable of reproducing 92% color. Banding is a big no no for the work I do. Now I've done my research on this. Seems the candidates are:

• NEC 2470 - Fairly well received but sneared at because of lack of inputs/options, and screen flicker in certain situatiuons when gaming/movies. Bulky size and high price.

• BenQ FP241v & FP241vw - Good and bad reviews all around. Not convinced.

• LG L246WP - Mixed reviews also

• Hyundai W241D - Not available in North America

I won't consider the 2407WFP or the 245T for obvious reasons. I will also not consider the Soyo. I'm not sure whats left out there. My main concerns are 8bit panel, less than 30ms input lag. Price I could care less, maybe up to $1000 budget. After that it would be nice if:

1:1 mapping + HDMI
Height adjustment
6ms max response
at least 1000:1 contrast (preferred no dynamic)

From what I can tell, such an LCD doesn't not exist at this time. The 2408WFP was to be it, seems not. I would still value your thoughts if I have missed anything. I would also consider a 26" but the main criteria would have to be met, 8bit and very low input lag. Cheers

You are correct, such a panel does not exist. Oddly enough, the FHD2400 comes the closest to matching your criteria; but it's a 6-bit TN, albeit with a 92% color-gamut.

 

[Overspeed]

You are correct, such a panel does not exist. Oddly enough, the FHD2400 comes the closest to matching your criteria; but it's a 6-bit TN, albeit with a 92% color-gamut.

Ok, that LCD is not too bad as I read specs on Gateway Website. Questions if you know ... 1:1 pixel mapping? Secondly, I assume that because of 92% gamut, that means no to minimal banding? Call me crazy but I prefer glossy screens. Any thoughts on blacklight bleed? Construction quality (things like do panels offen come dead pixels, flimsy stand etc)? Offical input lag values? I'll continue my research. Mucho thanx.

 

[verylostindeed]

Ok, that LCD is not too bad as I read specs on Gateway Website. Questions if you know ... 1:1 pixel mapping? Secondly, I assume that because of 92% gamut, that means no to minimal banding? Call me crazy but I prefer glossy screens. Any thoughts on blacklight bleed? Construction quality (things like do panels offen come dead pixels, flimsy stand etc)? Offical input lag values? I'll continue my research. Mucho thanx.

Yes, it fully supports 1:1 mapping on all inputs. The glossy screen gives superior contrast, but some people hate it. The stand has tilt and height adjustments and is pretty well-built, I'd say. I don't have any official input lag numbers, but they are very low -- you can probably find them on the lengthy FHD2400 thread on this board.

As for backlight bleed . . . mine is absolutely horrendous. Again, you can read about this on the thread, but it gets progressively worse as time goes on. Now, other people have had success by turning down the brightness very low, thus somehow avoiding this problem. This is pretty much the main topic in that thread; I suggest you check it out.

 

[Overspeed]

As for backlight bleed . . . mine is absolutely horrendous. Again, you can read about this on the thread, but it gets progressively worse as time goes on. Now, other people have had success by turning down the brightness very low, thus somehow avoiding this problem. This is pretty much the main topic in that thread; I suggest you check it out.

Thank you for this info. Just confirms that no monitor out there is perfect. I gotta say, as soon as the manufacturers wake up and realize this, who ever comes out with it first is gunna earn some serious dollah'z.

 

[Jhonka]

Thank you for this info. Just confirms that no monitor out there is perfect. I gotta say, as soon as the manufacturers wake up and realize this, who ever comes out with it first is gunna earn some serious dollah'z.

I thought I was the only one.
Even though I have a crappy CRT, I am afraid of getting a 20,22 or 24" LCD because I still want to do Photoshop/CAD and maybe Maya work, as well as being able to play a FPS game and watch movies too.

I will try to find the LG246WP / LG245WP on clearance (supposedly in the 325-400 range at Best Buy), but otherwise I'm not dropping 600+ on a monitor that has a serious negative.

 

[Deinonych]

Thank you for this info. Just confirms that no monitor out there is perfect. I gotta say, as soon as the manufacturers wake up and realize this, who ever comes out with it first is gunna earn some serious dollah'z.

QFT

I have a NEC 2470WNX. It's absolutely gorgeous, with no backlight bleeding. Only downside (for me, at least) is the input lag. It's not terrible, and I'm able to adjust to it. But, if it had low lag, it would be perfect for me.

 

[5.0_Capri]

go with the LG for sure

 

[EW27]

Ok, like so many others who were waiting on the Dell 2408WFP reviews, we have found the display has poor input lag issues. Not suprising since the panel used is the same as the Sammy 245T which held the record for worst lag times in the 24" range. I must now rethink my options. One thing that must not change is I need an 8bit panel ... unless of course there are TN's out there capable of reproducing 92% color. Banding is a big no no for the work I do. Now I've done my research on this. Seems the candidates are:

• NEC 2470 - Fairly well received but sneared at because of lack of inputs/options, and screen flicker in certain situatiuons when gaming/movies. Bulky size and high price.

• BenQ FP241v & FP241vw - Good and bad reviews all around. Not convinced.

• LG L246WP - Mixed reviews also

• Hyundai W241D - Not available in North America

I won't consider the 2407WFP or the 245T for obvious reasons. I will also not consider the Soyo. I'm not sure whats left out there. My main concerns are 8bit panel, less than 30ms input lag. Price I could care less, maybe up to $1000 budget. After that it would be nice if:

1:1 mapping + HDMI
Height adjustment
6ms max response
at least 1000:1 contrast (preferred no dynamic)

From what I can tell, such an LCD doesn't not exist at this time. The 2408WFP was to be it, seems not. I would still value your thoughts if I have missed anything. I would also consider a 26" but the main criteria would have to be met, 8bit and very low input lag. Cheers

The NEC 2470WNX has all of those features except that it doesn't have HDMI (but does have DVI-D w/HDCP), and it has about 33ms of lag. But that's as close as you're going to get at this point. I'd take the 2470WNX over any other 24" except the 2490, and in fact I did...but I replaced it with a Planar 26".