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Resurrection: exos or diy, almost time

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nightanole

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Ok i have 2 roads before me. On one I have a danner mag 3, 70' big block chevy heater core, one pass (12 by 6), 2 vantec stealth 53cfm 120mm fans, and an almost done shroud. I still need to complete the shroud and figure out how to do the pump. I also need to get a 6002 ( $44) water block, clear flex ( $10), 2 fan grills ($4), some type of resiuor(sp) or T line, and about $20 in misc hardware.

On the other road i could spend my money on a sub $200 (with water block) used exos. As a previous owner of an exos i know how easy they are to install and swap between systems. They also seem to be better coolers then the copper heatsinks im used to ( no hair dryers). Temps are always in the sub 45c range when past 3ghz on intel or 2ghz in amd.


Now my question is, do i spend $100 and resurrect my failed diy attempt ( can not use antifreeze indoors, thank god for fluidxp)? If i do this my resale will be nill. Or do i spend $200 and get another exos, and be able to resell for 80% of cost or whatever?


Ive never had water other then an exos, so i dont know what kind of temps i would be getting with a 1/2" setup using pretty good parts.
 
since you allready have the parts, just get your diy kit working. it will give you better performance than the exos...keep in mind that this is coming from an exos user.
 
Bah, i just ordered an Exos yesterday, with koolance CPU and GPU blocks...
Why did i not get discouraged BEFORE i ordered?
 
well he's allready got all the DIY parts, all he needs to do is put alittle effort into sorting it all out and he can save himself $180 or so...

id never discourage a koolance, the koolance does have good performance, better than aircooling. but it is a entry level kit and will not perform as good as some of these 1/2" ID systems.
 
well, it's my first journey into watercooling and also into higher overclocking (meaning, not just trying my luck with a shitty k7s5a)
 
also, if you buy a new exos with the newest blocks, its going to be well over $200. the lowest you can find the black exos is probobly $175-180, and the cpu-300 waterblock is going to cost $40-50

i spend a shit load for my koolance system :(

Koolance EXOS-Al = $205
CPU-300 = $50
GPU-L06 = $35
GPU-H06 = $35
 
My purchase from Newegg:

HEATSINK|GPU-180-L06 KOOLANCE RTL (Qty=1,Price=$35.99)
CASE ACCES KOOLANCE EXT-A04 RETAIL (Qty=1,Price=$186.99)
CASE ACCES KOOLANCE CPU-300-H06 RET (Qty=1,Price=$48.99)

Subtotal:$271.97
TAX:$.00
Shipping and Handling Charge**:$9.00
Total:$280.97

Shipped to Houston, Texas
 
Should have hit e-bay...
There is one person selling BRAND NEW exos @ about 230 shipped with main unit + CPU + GPU cooler all the time. I got mine through him :p
 
jinu117 said:
Should have hit e-bay...
There is one person selling BRAND NEW exos @ about 230 shipped with main unit + CPU + GPU cooler all the time. I got mine through him :p
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yep I got my exos off him Exos Aluminum with CPU300H06 and GPU180L06 for $192. shipped the same day. got it 3 days later. It was new.

As for my results see elsewere.

quick summary:
CPU 33-35 C loaded xp-m 2600+ @ 2.5 GHz 1.675v on MBM5
ambient 28 C

Having said that, since you already have most parts to a good setup, give it another shot.

EDIT: He doesnt seem to have an exos for sale currently. But he does have a koolance case 601 at $125 currently.
 
Well, I was in the same boat you were about a year ago. I went with the exos. I now am much more knowledgible about w/c'ing so I am currently in the process of completing my DIY system. I have a custom plexi shroud and everything.

The reason for my selling the exos and going with a DIY system is I have recently gotten into case modding. I wanted to create and complete my own project and have something unique when I was done. I also wanted a higher performing system. I also got most of the funds from selling the exos :).

I was satisfied with the exos, dont get me wrong. It is an excellent system and is very easy to set up. I'll tell you one thing, I have spent more than 10x the amount of time with this new system than with the exos (not that the time spent was a bad thing, I had a lot of fun :)).

If it were me I would have not spent more than $200 for the exos and equipment. It's performance just doesnt justify the price. Hell, I think you could even make your own phase change system for $270 :).

But, the important thing is that you are happy with what you get. That is all that matters.
 
DarkenReaper57 said:
Well, I was in the same boat you were about a year ago. I went with the exos. I now am much more knowledgible about w/c'ing so I am currently in the process of completing my DIY system. I have a custom plexi shroud and everything.

The reason for my selling the exos and going with a DIY system is I have recently gotten into case modding. I wanted to create and complete my own project and have something unique when I was done. I also wanted a higher performing system. I also got most of the funds from selling the exos :).

I was satisfied with the exos, dont get me wrong. It is an excellent system and is very easy to set up. I'll tell you one thing, I have spent more than 10x the amount of time with this new system than with the exos (not that the time spent was a bad thing, I had a lot of fun :)).

If it were me I would have not spent more than $200 for the exos and equipment. It's performance just doesnt justify the price. Hell, I think you could even make your own phase change system for $270 :).

But, the important thing is that you are happy with what you get. That is all that matters.
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He... I am on the other spectrum here... went from DIY -> Peltier -> Air -> Exos. Think I will stick around with Exos probably longer than any other setup... :) Peltier was cool except... the electricity consumption and heat it generated got to me eventually. Don't think phase change will be any better on heat department... And after modding about 5-6 case, I got too tired of doing dremel thing... :p Now, just being lazy and enjoying the bang for the buck.
 
Well, guys, you see how i'm a complete noob when it comes to price-finding on watercooling...
I donno about e-bay sometimes, i get that little thing in the back of my head that doesent approve of non-brand-new products when they are at the magnitude of something like the Exos, which I plan to use for several computers in the future...
Also, I never understand these pletiers! WHAT THE HELL ARE PELTIERS and how do they work?
I read that it's like... one side is hot and the other isn't or something... anyone care to give a quick explanation?
 
krizzle said:
I never understand these pletiers! WHAT THE HELL ARE PELTIERS and how do they work?
I read that it's like... one side is hot and the other isn't or something... anyone care to give a quick explanation?
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Kinda like mcdonalds back in the day. For a low fee of 75 watts constant, you will get one side that is so cold that it gets frost and condensation in less then a min. The other side will get so hot it will blacken in less then a min. So in order to cool your cpu 10c or more, you have to create 75 watts more of heat that you have to get rid of using your water cooler, which increases temps, which Increases cpu temps alittle, so you can work harder, make more money, to by more crack, to work harder, to make more money, to buy more crack...
 
nightanole said:
Kinda like mcdonalds back in the day. For a low fee of 75 watts constant, you will get one side that is so cold that it gets frost and condensation in less then a min. The other side will get so hot it will blacken in less then a min. So in order to cool your cpu 10c or more, you have to create 75 watts more of heat that you have to get rid of using your water cooler, which increases temps, which Increases cpu temps alittle, so you can work harder, make more money, to by more crack, to work harder, to make more money, to buy more crack...
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Ahahaha.... bit cryptic there :p (or too descriptive).
Peltiers when supplied electricity makes one side hot the other side cool (actively moving heat from one side to another side). Only problem is, it is very inefficient. To move 80watt of heat, it would consume about 140W of power to do so under "idle" circumstances. So basically right before water cooling, you would put peltier which connects between waterblock and CPU and it will actively move heat from CPU as well as it's self generated heat into waterblock. Temps will be lower (in my case, load temp would drop down on CPU OC'd to about 3.7ghz down to another 15-20c from H2O setup) there will be more heat radiator will pump out (which actually makes the efficiency of radiator go up :p) and your room will be HOT.
I personally don't recommend it as cost involved eventually reaches to that of phasecooling.
 
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