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I am using the 4th expansion slot so that I get a slot in between for air.

I just came across a post on another forum where a member removed the drive cage to fit a pump. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1355425
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You are likely to cut out your dvd drives if you do that too, there is already barely enough place there (main bad thing of the ft02), you can look at this pic to see what I mean, the only way id see it work is without the gap.....
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Evochuck said:
Well I went form full air to WC, so no real base comparison, other then my very good air setup, to be honest i didnt see a huge cpu improvement over a silver arrow, but the the gpu temps are staggering compared ot asus DC2 design over 20deg diff......I am overall very happy
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Yes, the GPU temp drop seems to be very common. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect that CPU cooling is already pretty efficient, while GPU cooling is a little limited due to size and weight restraints. Thus GPU cooling seems to benefit most from LC.
 
Technically it is not bad idea to watercool just gpus, keep cpu on high-end air cooler. You will still have to get entire LC loop with pumps and all parts, but you can get away with much smaller radiator, especially sincs gpus are quite forgiving when it comes to water temperature. It is something rarely seen unfortunately, despite making perfect sense.
 
aerial- said:
Technically it is not bad idea to watercool just gpus, keep cpu on high-end air cooler. You will still have to get entire LC loop with pumps and all parts, but you can get away with much smaller radiator, especially sincs gpus are quite forgiving when it comes to water temperature. It is something rarely seen unfortunately, despite making perfect sense.
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i've always wondered the same thing: why don't we see more GPU(s) only WC setups with all those near-water-level-performance air coolers out there.

once ivy bridge hits, i think the lower heat production combined with the enormous air coolers will mean we may see more GPU only WC rigs
 
If you already have large radiator, then it would be obviously a waste, for about same price as air cooler, you just buy a cpu water block.
Where it would really benifit, would be some midi tower case and for example 2x140 rad just for gpu sli.
 
A lot has to do with the case too, we are basicaly taking best in class air cooling case+ best in class air cooler and comparing it to a decent WC setup with a less then ideal WC case....
 
Evochuck said:
You are likely to cut out your dvd drives if you do that too, there is already barely enough place there (main bad thing of the ft02), you can look at this pic to see what I mean, the only way id see it work is without the gap.....
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Thanks Evochuck! I was thinking I could use an external DVD drive instead since I don't load up discs very often. From the picture I can't tell if the backside of the DVD drive cage sits flush with the motherboard tray.

After some thought, my other concern was the effectiveness of cooling when using non-reference graphic coolers since the Matrix 580GTX is cooled by blowing hot into the case instead of out through the rear.
 
I use external DVD writer because it's much more silent than full speed dvd drive and speed doesn't matter since everything those days just makes cd check after installation.
 
I will get my 2nd 6970 DCII card this tuesday, and then hopefully I can take some pictures to show people that it can be done running CF with 2 3-slot cards in this wonderful case as long as you get the right Motherboard. :)
 
Linde said:
I will get my 2nd 6970 DCII card this tuesday, and then hopefully I can take some pictures to show people that it can be done running CF with 2 3-slot cards in this wonderful case as long as you get the right Motherboard. :)
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looking forward to it! :)
 
aerial- said:
If you already have large radiator, then it would be obviously a waste, for about same price as air cooler, you just buy a cpu water block.
Where it would really benifit, would be some midi tower case and for example 2x140 rad just for gpu sli.
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right, but then that's extra restriction for the loop, and extra heat for the rad, no?
 
That's_Corporate said:
right, but then that's extra restriction for the loop, and extra heat for the rad, no?
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Yeah, it will ofc add to the heat load and restriction of the loop. But it will hardly make your video cards much warmer.

My loop gives me better CPU temps than any high end air cooler will do, plus I have video cards at 28c idle and 45c load, so I would definitely go full water. Ofc if you already have a good air cooler, you can save a few dollars, but if you're already spending 500-1000$ on water, you might as well buy the CPU block.
 
Evochuck said:
You are likely to cut out your dvd drives if you do that too, there is already barely enough place there (main bad thing of the ft02), you can look at this pic to see what I mean, the only way id see it work is without the gap.....
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Very nice
 
Two 6970 3 slots cards as promised.

I am very sorry about the poor image quality. I will post some better pictures when I've routed the cables more properly.

But now you guys can see that it is indeed possible.

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Cheezies has an ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z, it only has 6 PCI slots, unlike your WS Revo with 7.

Linde said:
Two 6970 3 slots cards as promised.

I am very sorry about the poor image quality. I will post some better pictures when I've routed the cables more properly.

But now you guys can see that it is indeed possible.

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Kisakuku said:
Cheezies has an ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z, it only has 6 PCI slots, unlike your WS Revo with 7.
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I sold my M4E because of that when I had a DCUII card. Asrock board layouts are better for this case, unless you get the Asus WS board like the user above, I just don't like the color scheme.
 
Just built my new system last night with the FT02, Maximus Extreme Z, 2500k, and Noctua D14 and am a little unimpressed with eh temps so far. Overclocked it using the BIOS utility for 4.6 ghz and with the case fans on hi I was getting 69-72 degrees c on the CPU.

I had a higher voltage overclock on my old Q9550 with Xigmatech in a TJ10 that was about the same temps.

From reading everything hear I was expecting lower. I am not sure if it's the HS or case ventilation. How does that sound to everybody else?
 
That sounds not right at all.

I run a 2600k at 4,5 ghz with auto voltage and also the d14.
And my temps are 58 degrees c at maximum.
Although I use 2 akasa apache fans at 80% instead of the noctuas standard fans, but that shouldn't make that big a difference.
My ap at the bottom run at 30-50%
 
Jhalf said:
Just built my new system last night with the FT02, Maximus Extreme Z, 2500k, and Noctua D14 and am a little unimpressed with eh temps so far. Overclocked it using the BIOS utility for 4.6 ghz and with the case fans on hi I was getting 69-72 degrees c on the CPU.

I had a higher voltage overclock on my old Q9550 with Xigmatech in a TJ10 that was about the same temps.

From reading everything hear I was expecting lower. I am not sure if it's the HS or case ventilation. How does that sound to everybody else?
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What kind of thermal compound did you use? Did you let it cure? How did you apply it?

Other things like uneven mounting pressure from your heatsink is a common mistake.

Your temps should be lower than that.
 
I used the Noctua thermal paste that came with it. Used pea sized amount, used a baggy to spread it a bit. The installation of the heatsink seemed very straight forward so Im not sure what i could have missed. it said to tighten it down until it didn't turn anymore.

What CPU voltage are you guys running at?

EDIT: Never mind all. I got drunk last night while building and had set the voltage at 1.35, and 1.5 for a while. It was currently at 1.5 when I wrote my post. I think these temps are normal for the stock fans at that voltage.

Overall I am impressed with everything. Not my first Silverstone, and I am happy I made the decision to go back.
 
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I've been on the fence on this case for awhile now since its been out so long and it seems its missing alot of the conveniences of modern cases (like complete toolessness, pain free wire routing and SSD mounting). Do you guys think this case is worth it still? $200+ is alot to spend on a case which doesnt include all the things I would expect when spending top dollar, cooling ability aside of course.

Its actually why Ive been scouring the forums for a used one, but they seem very rare on the secondary market..
 
wuzupfoo said:
I've been on the fence on this case for awhile now since its been out so long and it seems its missing alot of the conveniences of modern cases (like complete toolessness, pain free wire routing and SSD mounting). Do you guys think this case is worth it still? $200+ is alot to spend on a case which doesnt include all the things I would expect when spending top dollar, cooling ability aside of course.

Its actually why Ive been scouring the forums for a used one, but they seem very rare on the secondary market..
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Lets be honest, toolessness is a total gimmick. I don't know what you mean by "pain free" cable routing either. The FT02 isn't difficult to wire, and looks even better when a $2.50 pack of cable clamps is used. Btw it does have a special ssd mounting bracket and spot.

The fact that there are so few for sale second hand is what I'd call a big clue with how much people like theirs...
 
makes sense on the lack of supply.. been reading the reviews and such and they mention the back space isnt very deep but either way seems to be the best option, I just like how the 800D is set up but hate how its a not a very good air cooler.. anyway you probably just swayed me.. thanks
 
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Build:

Intel Core i7-2700k
Gigabyte Z68XP-UD5
EVGA Nvidia 580 GTX
Corsair AX 850
Corsair Vengeance 4x4GB
Samsung 830 128GB 2x
Western Digital Black 1TB
Corsair H80 w/ 2x GTs
Silverstone Fortress FT02B-W
Asus Xonar STX
 
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Anybody know whats a good psu on the same level as the AX850 that would properly fit the ft02? I was planning a new build based on this case with the AX850, but then I read that the AX850 fan does properly align with the intake mesh on the case. For more info on what I mean, see below link.

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=92236
 
Skunt said:
Anybody know whats a good psu on the same level as the AX850 that would properly fit the ft02? I was planning a new build based on this case with the AX850, but then I read that the AX850 fan does properly align with the intake mesh on the case. For more info on what I mean, see below link.

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=92236
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I think quite a few PSUs dont line up actually...ive got a BFG Tech 1000w PSU that has about 1/4 of the intake covered but it runs just fine.

Though if your really intent on getting one that properly lines up.... a Strider series would probably work: http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=319&area=en
 
There's enough gap between the PSU and the side for it to not really make any difference. Use whatever PSU you like :)
 
System:
CPU: Xeon E 1230
HSF: Corsair H80 with Noctua PWM
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD4 B3
PSU: Corsair AX750
GPU: Asus DirectCU 6950 2GB
FAn Controller: NZXT Sentry Mesh
ODD: LiteoOn DVDRW
Memory: 8GB G.Skill ECO F3-12800CL7D
HDD1: Crucial M4 64GB
HDD2: WD Caviar Black 1TB
HDD3: WD Green 1TB
Case: Silverstone FT02 with window
OS: Windows 7 64 Pro

Monitors:
4 x Dell U2412M

Peripherals:
Logitech M950 Performance Mouse
Logitech K800 Wireless Illuminated Keyboard
Logitech G330Headset
Leadtek WinFast DTV1000 S PCI
Billion 7800NL

Desk etc
IKEA Galant
Kingpin Visionary Deluxe Ergonomic Chair

Notes:
Objective for this system was high performance without hassles, quiet operation, cool operation (due to so many monitors being in the room) and comfortable to work with for many hours at a time. Ended up making several changes along the way to reach the objective.

The memory runs at 1.35V for lower power consumption/less heat
Highly recommend the Kingpin chair as an excellent bang for buck ergonomic chair that you can sit in all day and some.
The Galant desk is height adjustable (for ideal comfort settings) and its metal frame is great for using with zip ties for cable management.
The Silverstone FT02 is incredibly quiet with a fan controller for the 3 x 180mm fans. It doesn't suffer dust build up inside. It's very easy to work with. And for multiple dongles off the IO – makes sense to have them laying horizontally so there is no chance of failure to the pull of gravity. GPU's run hotter when running multiple monitors, hence the reasoning for the FT02 (although the Raven would have done just as good a job)
Although the PSU is overkill for what its running – it doesn't often engage the fan so it is mostly completely silent.
Monitors are calibrated using the custom settings from TFT Central's website which reduces their power use to 21 Watts. They generate very little heat, and on a mild day the screens are cool to the touch.

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Quick question. What screws do the hard drives use? I think I've lost them and I need to get some replacements. I'd much rather not deal with RMA services themselves since that takes forever in my country.
 
Applies to the entire case windings:

Silverstone - 6-32
Lian Li - M3-0.5
Keep thread lengths below 6mm, 5mm is ideal.

HDDs and ODDs in general are 6-32
 
Can I get some advice from some fellow FT02 owners?

I've got a 6970 and 3 monitors right now (not in Eyefinity). Two generic LCDs and one Dell U2410. I only game on the Dell so that's why no Eyefinity. Anyways, I the HDMI from one generic, DVI to Mini-DP (converter) from the other generic and a DP to Mini-DP (converter) from the Dell hooked into the 6970.. I can't get the FT02 top cover on because of the video cable clearance issue. So I've ordered a Mini-DP to DP cable (saving the space I currently have with the converter) and a DVI to Mini DP cable from Monoprice..

Does anyone have any other space saving suggestions for my situation?? thanks!
 
if you look at the top of my FT02 - you'll notice I fit 2 x DP to DVI adaptors plus an additional 2 x DVI cables - so you can squeeze things
but one suggestion is to use a DP cable between the adaptor and other cable - so the adaptor is no longer located within the FT02??
 
Had another fan crap out on me about a month ago. First one, the PCB on the fan burned up and then this last one made some funky load noise then went clunk...a fan blade had broken away. Both times, I submitted an RMA after being told so by Silverstone techsupport. I waited a few weeks and sent an email to them asking whats up and thats when I got a tracking number for it being shipped. So basically, if you RMA something to silverstone, you have to keep on them to get it resolved.

Although I had to follow up on them to get it done their RMA process is pretty easy and painless. On top of that, I didnt have to ship the old fans back so with a little bit of searching and determination, I managed to replace the broken fan from one fan with the intact fan onto the fan with the unburnt PCB and BAM...got a working backup....although I may get some 3pin extensions and use it as a deskfan lol.
 
I should probably email them again because I still haven't heard a word from them since I inquired about a followup in regards to my fan problem back in may? june?
 
I just got mine today, and I just want to say that it's more glorious than I could've possibly imagined.

That is all.
 
Except that once I was installing, I realized that it wasn't completely tool-less. It appears this is because they want to save materials. It looks like the proper holes are drilled for the tool-less setup, but they simply did not put the necessary hardware on the side that the back of the motherboard lies on. Also, many of the motherboard stand offs and screws that go with them simply don't work together. The threading on the stand offs is too large for the screws that are supposed to go into them. Is there a silverstone rep on this forum? If so, what gives?
 
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