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[MissJ84]

First and foremost, thanks for the testing FaRKle0079! So many non owners of RV02/FT02's slam it imo. I've seen you, Omerta, and WE all posting about the case over at OCN a lot lately, and you're all doing a great job of informing people. They're totally CM whores over there, though I guess that's a lot of places.

Omerta, a few things. First, how do you plan on getting an H70 on the Classified with the NB? I'm guessing, you'd either use Noiseblocker Multiframes, or dremel a corner off of the bottom fan. Either way, I'd really like to see what your solution looks like once you have it installed. Here's a photo with the H50, showing what I mean.
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1302/photo081810003.jpg

Also, why do you want to go with the AX750 over Seasonics X750 or their soon to be released X760. I realize they're all Seasonic based units, but I was just curious. Is it because of the flat cables?? Btw, what card are you are you looking to downgrade to? I really wish you were selling it in early Sept.

 

[Omerta]

First and foremost, thanks for the testing FaRKle0079! So many non owners of RV02/FT02's slam it imo. I've seen you, Omerta, and WE all posting about the case over at OCN a lot lately, and you're all doing a great job of informing people. They're totally CM whores over there, though I guess that's a lot of places.

Most of the people on OCN are clueless...lol

Omerta, a few things. First, how do you plan on getting an H70 on the Classified with the NB? I'm guessing, you'd either use Noiseblocker Multiframes, or dremel a corner off of the bottom fan. Either way, I'd really like to see what your solution looks like once you have it installed. Here's a photo with the H50, showing what I mean.
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1302/photo081810003.jpg

I'm only gonna use one fan.

Also, why do you want to go with the AX750 over Seasonics X750 or their soon to be released X760. I realize they're all Seasonic based units, but I was just curious. Is it because of the flat cables?? Btw, what card are you are you looking to downgrade to? I really wish you were selling it in early Sept.

I want to go with it because the corsair headquarters is a 30 minute drive from where I live. Whenever I have issues with things, I just drive there and get it replaced, and it's a good PSU anyway. Plus the x760 and ax750 are based on their new platform anyway.

Not sure what I am looking to downgrade to yet. But probably a 5770. Since I HARDLY ever game and usually play old games, it really doesn't matter much.

 

[MissJ84]

Most of the people on OCN are clueless...lol

Rofl! I know, I only go over there, because it's very active.

I'm only gonna use one fan.

Please post (VenX/H70) temp comparisons if you have the time as well as pics!

I want to go with it because the corsair headquarters is a 30 minute drive from where I live. Whenever I have issues with things, I just drive there and get it replaced, and it's a good PSU anyway. Plus the x760 and ax750 are based on their new platform anyway.

That's a pretty good reason. I mentioned the X760, because I bet they'll be a little bit cheaper. We shall see

 

[Omerta]

Please post (VenX/H70) temp comparisons if you have the time as well as pics!

I definitely will. Probably will be a week or 2 before I get everything. Amazon doesn't have everything I want in stock yet . I hate ordering shit from Newegg/other sites. Amazon may not have the best prices all the time, but at least they're clueless when it comes to computer stuff and you can return stuff without a problem and restocking fees. I remember returning my FT01 outside their 30 day period. I told them the FT01 broke my whole computer and they took the return...lol. Same thing with my 305T kinda. There was a red stuck pixel. I told them the whole monitor doesn't turn on and they exchanged it. Newegg/other sites wouldn't fall for that.

 

[FaRKle0079]

Most of the people on OCN are clueless...lol

ROFL about OCN. Soooo true... That forum seems more based off of emotions than facts. I mean, just look at how many of them got butt-hurt the 5870 CFX lost to the OC GTX 460 SLI. Most of that whining stopped after I mentioned I got the same results with CFX 5870s and cat 10.7...

 

[WorldExclusive]

A lot of people at OCN needs to be informed about what's going on with their PC.
People over there swear by the HAF X. Look in this forum. The three main threads are Silverstone, Corsair and Lian Li.
The best of the best manufactures of cases.

I bought a lot of Cooler Master cases also, but they usually have the gamer look. I liked the ATCS 840 the most.

 

[SylarPowers]

Count me in on the Silverstone FT02 in Red Club, just ordered the girl up. I was going to wait for the TJ11, but hey, we could all die in a gamma burst from space tomorrow, so I'm not waiting. I think this case has 90% of the TJ11's charms anyway, if you're only going for air cooling.

 

[indelible5]

@Bergman, damn dude.. that is going to be one [H]ard build, choice items!

@WorldExclusive, just noticed your nice review of the LE on Newegg

I still want to get the AP181's from all the good feedback on them. One of these days I'll get around to ordering them as I do not want to hassle with buying the LE and then selling my non-LE. Plus I don't want to get hit with CA tax on the LE, at that price I figure it saves me some money just upgrading the fans.

 

[SylarPowers]

I can't wait for my new case, very excited to be getting this one, more than any case I have ordered so far. I remember getting really excited when the first FT02 came out, but I never pulled the trigger. Now I get to own one of 150 Limited Edition FT02's with red interior and better fans.

Previously, I would insist on using my Gentle Typhoons, however, these AP181's seem greatly improved, so I'll give them a shot. I have only one more request, since I am basically locked to Silverstone for 180mm fans: Dual Ball Bearings please, sleeves are soo low end for longevity. And if I remember correctly, Dual Ball Bearings, like those in my Gentle Typhoons, perform better when laying flat like the FT02 requires. I would pay whatever the cost increase the Dual Ball Bearings bring with them. Of course if I am wrong, and sleeve is best, just keep them in production, so I will never run out =)

I still will buy a TJ11 no doubt, but I'm in no rush now and can wait for a sale, this Red FT02 Limited Edition is more than good enough, and surprisingly very similar to the TJ11 in many ways.

 

[indelible5]

IIRC correctly, Tony mentioned many pages back in this thead somewhere that SilverStone uses sleeved fans but they engineer a bushing or spacer of some sort to give them more longevity and reduce noise. He mentioned they were aware of the problems that could arise from sleeved fans lying on their sides and came up with that solution. So you should be good to go for quite some time. Congrats on the purchase.

On another note I bit the bullet and ordered me 3x AP181's today, probably won't have them for a week or so, but the stock fans are working just fine. I just have the mod bug lately

 

[NKDietrich]

Really tempted to go with the RV02. Getting tired of waiting on the Corsair 600T, and the RV02 is a better air cooling case anyway. FT02 is a few more bucks than I have left on my budget, or I'd get that. Anyone have any thoughts on 600T vs RV02 for my sig rig?

 

[WorldExclusive]

I would go with the RV02. It will cool those GTX 480's a lot better than the 600T.
You will have direct airflow on your 480's. The RV02 looks great in person also.

 

[liberalelephant]

Man I REALLY hope they come out with an FT04 or simply update the FT02 with the following changes (many of which are borrowed from the RV03)

1. Make the window on the left side panel
2. Place PSU below HDD and ODD drive cages to reduce chassis depth
3. AP181s of course
4. 8 expansion slots w/ a small amount of room underneath the bottom slot to accommodate a 3 slot cooler such as the Arctic Cooling Xtreme Plus installed in the 7th mobo slot.
5. Perhaps instead of putting the HDD on the back of the mobo tray like in the RV03, place them above the PSU, leaving 3 5 1/4 inch bays (thats all anyone really needs anyway). Perhaps place 2 or 3 2.5 inch drive bays behind the motherboard tray.
6. Rubber Grommets over the cable routing holes like the Corsair 800D .
7. Include 2 stealth 5 1/4 drive bay covers like Lian Li!!!

Silverstone if you are listening please make this case!!! .

 

[WorldExclusive]

Man I REALLY hope they come out with an FT04 or simply update the FT02 with the following changes (many of which are borrowed from the RV03)

1. Make the window on the left side panel
2. Place PSU below HDD and ODD drive cages to reduce chassis depth
3. AP181s of course
4. 8 expansion slots w/ a small amount of room underneath the bottom slot to accommodate a 3 slot cooler such as the Arctic Cooling Xtreme Plus installed in the 7th mobo slot.
5. Perhaps instead of putting the HDD on the back of the mobo tray like in the RV03, place them above the PSU, leaving 3 5 1/4 inch bays (thats all anyone really needs anyway). Perhaps place 2 or 3 2.5 inch drive bays behind the motherboard tray.
6. Rubber Grommets over the cable routing holes like the Corsair 800D .
7. Include 2 stealth 5 1/4 drive bay covers like Lian Li!!!

Silverstone if you are listening please make this case!!! .

It's called the Silverstone TJ11 (Q4 2010)

 

[liberalelephant]

It's called the Silverstone TJ11 (Q4 2010)

That case is WAYYYY to large. Also the 45 5 1/4 inch bays look very ugly. Not to mention the window faces the wrong way. The TJ11 is nothing like what I described above lol. Like not even close.

 

[Omerta]

Man I REALLY hope they come out with an FT04 or simply update the FT02 with the following changes (many of which are borrowed from the RV03)

1. Make the window on the left side panel
2. Place PSU below HDD and ODD drive cages to reduce chassis depth
3. AP181s of course
4. 8 expansion slots w/ a small amount of room underneath the bottom slot to accommodate a 3 slot cooler such as the Arctic Cooling Xtreme Plus installed in the 7th mobo slot.
5. Perhaps instead of putting the HDD on the back of the mobo tray like in the RV03, place them above the PSU, leaving 3 5 1/4 inch bays (thats all anyone really needs anyway). Perhaps place 2 or 3 2.5 inch drive bays behind the motherboard tray.
6. Rubber Grommets over the cable routing holes like the Corsair 800D .
7. Include 2 stealth 5 1/4 drive bay covers like Lian Li!!!

Silverstone if you are listening please make this case!!! .

I spoke to tony about stealth drive bay covers in their future cases. It's not happening.

 

[liberalelephant]

I spoke to tony about stealth drive bay covers in their future cases. It's not happening.

Sigh, I guess I will have to continue buying Lian Li cases then .

 

[NKDietrich]

I would go with the RV02. It will cool those GTX 480's a lot better than the 600T.
You will have direct airflow on your 480's. The RV02 looks great in person also.

Thanks. Pushed the button on the RV02. Woot woot. Though I will definitely need to swap the blue LEDs for red. I wonder what the specs are on the LEDs already in there.

Question: Is there enough room to put the top fan on the RV02 outside of the case, just under the top cover? Thinking it might help cut down on the space the H70 takes up inside the case if I put one of the fans on the outside. Especially since it doesn't have a restrictive grill, just a removable wire grill.

 

[|Tch0rT|]

Really tempted to go with the RV02. Getting tired of waiting on the Corsair 600T, and the RV02 is a better air cooling case anyway. FT02 is a few more bucks than I have left on my budget, or I'd get that. Anyone have any thoughts on 600T vs RV02 for my sig rig?

I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I'm learning towards the RV02 due to better cooling and it's known for keeping GTX480's quiet so it should keep an o/c'd 470 quiet too. I might even pick up a AP fan for the GPU fan at some point if I got RV02 route, which I probably will. I can't see spending that much more for the FT02 since for me the only thing better about that one is the hard drive cage. As far as looks go the RV02 is a little too blingy and the FT02 is a little too bland. But whatever both cases are pimp for air cooling.

Though I do wish Silverstone RV02 and FT02 had the rubber grommets for the cable management holes like Corsair.

Either way Silverstone and Corsair are both FTMFW.

 

[SylarPowers]

The more I look at the tj11, the more i think it's overly big for what i need. It's fracking huge. I still want it, but the ft02 cools the motherboard in a very similar manner, with fresh air coming from silverstone 180mm fans just below the mobo in a short direct path. Both with rotated mobo and unibody construction. If size and all don't matter, the ft02 is a good stand in for air cooling, especially if your building right now. Since I bought a red ft02, a tj11 may not be justified for me unless I have money to burn on pc parts I technically don't need. Which means I will own both

I'm sure the build quality will jump up a few notches for the tj11 tho, and I like saying I own the flagship. Come on, what would u rather have, the uss enterprise, or the uss excellcior?

 

[Omerta]

The more I look at the tj11, the more i think it's overly big for what i need. It's fracking huge. I still want it, but the ft02 cools the motherboard in a very similar manner, with fresh air coming from silverstone 180mm fans just below the mobo in a short direct path. Both with rotated mobo and unibody construction. If size and all don't matter, the ft02 is a good stand in for air cooling, especially if your building right now. A tj11 may not be justified for me unless I have money to burn on pc parts I technically don't need. Which means I will own both

I'm sure the build quality will jump up a few notches for the tj11 tho, and I like saying I own the flagship. Come on, what would u rather have, the uss enterprise, or the uss excellcior?

The TJ11 has way too many drive bays and the cable management looks worse than in the ft02/rv02. And it has the annoying vents on the side panel. If I was silverstone, I'd just take the ft02/rv02 and make it taller and longer to allow for room to fit a triple rad, and add more pci expansion slots and call it a day.

Basically with the tj11 now, it doesn't look like it'll be as intuitive for watercooling as with the 800D and will not cool as well as the ft02/rv02 since the intake fans are in the middle of the case instead of the bottom like on the ft02/rv02.

 

[SylarPowers]

Sure, typically big cases lose some cooling power with the same fans, but I don't think this applies in this case. If the penitraitor fans work as silverstone claims, if they really do go straight up in a focused volume of strong air, I don't see how it would cool different. I don't think mid case air duct vents are any worse or better than bottom vents. A hole is a hole. But I agree that the bottom side vents for the hd area is not as monolithicly pretty.

But I think you are right on the money for wiring being better on the ft02, but I would have to get my hands on to know for sure. Side vents are the price u pay for more case room it seems, in this instance.

 

[Omerta]

If the penitraitor fans work silverstone claims, if they really do go straight up in a focused volume of strong air, I don't see how it would cool different.

But I think you are right on the money for wiring being better on the ft02, but I would have to get my hands on to know for sure.

I'm just assuming so because hot air rises and the intakes are in the middle of the tj11, so the air the fans would be pushing in the tj11 wouldn't be as cool as as in the ft02/rv02 since they have the fans at the very bottom of the case. One of the fans on the tj11 seem to be directly above the hdd rack, too.

 

[SylarPowers]

Sorry, editing on my cell phone is a pain.

 

[SylarPowers]

Edit.

 

[SylarPowers]

Ok, I'm on a PC now. Let redo this. I'm not an expert, but I think I have an idea of how this works, from reading reviews and from observation.

For now, leave the fancy Silverstone Penitraitor fans out of it. Take the FT01. This case has above average CPU cooling skills. This is because the intake fan on top is right there, and there is minimal distance to the CPU area, and the exhaust is right behind the CPU. A short direct path of air in and out. For air cooling, if you add inches for radiators, add space or volume, or a HD cage in the way, you would lose some of this advantage.

On the RV02, the FT02, and the TJ11, the fans are right next the motherboard, closer than most cases. The TJ11 only has two fans, but really, the third fan on the other two cases are for the HDs. On the RV02 and FT02, the path of the cool air comes from the bottom vents and goes in a short direct path straight up and out, providing more direct and better cooling to the entire mobo than in most cases, as they have to push threw HDs and extra inches.

On the TJ11, the fresh outside air for the mobo comes from the (somewhat hard to see) mid case fan ducts (located above the side vents that you do notice right away), two slots, each with a 180mm fan, so again, OUTSIDE fresh air is being drawn straight in from the middle of the case, up and out in a short direct path. Almost exactly the same setup as the FT02/RV02, but the TJ11 adds a separate walled off compartment to the bottom for the HDs. The fans on the left bottom side vent sucks air in and blows it straight out the other side vent, left to right. This HD cooling path is isolated enough to not affect the motherboard cooling. Also, the PSUs are contained here too, sucking air in the side vents, blowing it out the back. So the Motherboard is free to be cooled directly by the two mid case air ducts, by two fans, whose only job is to make the motherboard chilly, not unlike the FT02/RV02 design.

So as you can see, while the TJ11 may not be as streamlined as the FT02, as mid case ducts + side vents are not as monolithic and pretty, it does not sacrifice any cooling ability to add more room to this type of design. I think the TJ11 is truly the best of both worlds, watercooling if you need it, a frackton of room for anything, you can put rads in the isolated bottom compartment, without sacrificing the direct short path for air cooling.

The other thing is the the Cooler Master 840 does not cool as well as say a HAF. This is because the sheer distances involved, with the 840 being so much bigger yet possessing similar fan setups, so this takes away from the overall cooling ability. The TJ11 might of suffered from this on paper, with the sheer added volume, but they no doubt combat this with the mid case side ducts and/or the new Silverstone Penitraitor fans, which blows a strong focused column of air straight up and out, so the need for a smaller case to "force" a focused column of air is diminished.

It seems to me that the TJ11 does a lot more right than some people give it credit for at first glance. Sure, wiring may or may not be ideal, it has side vents, but it sure impresses with what it's doing in my book.

For me, I just don't need any more space than what the FT02 offers for my air cooled system, but I would like the TJ11's (expected) thicker metal construction, the dual PSU slots, and other perks of buying the flagship. But it's only a want, hardly a need in my case, and defiantly only if I have the money to toss away. I would get an SSD before I would buy the TJ11 say. And my Red FT02, which should come soon, will likely remain in my collection even if I buy the TJ11. They are both great products IMHO, and I like what they did with the HD/PSU locations on the RV03. The FT03 however, seems to be moving in a HTPC direction, cramming everything in, not quite what I like to do. The FT03 should not be the next Fortress case IMHO, it's not a "better" FT02, just vastly different. I will not be trading in my FT02 for an FT03 . I also think the FT02 was worthy enough to have been a TJ series case as a successor to the TJ10 (perhaps with a slight increase in metal thickness, go all aluminum or whatever, but even still, there is no way I would want a TJ10 over a FT02), and then we could have bumped the TJ11 to TJ12.

However, I'm sure I will fire up my TJ11 Flagship someday. It will hum to life with my i8 CPU, my Nvidia 580 will spin up with authority, the walls of the Matrix will flex upon booting up.

Oh, and I just thought of some great uses for all those extra TJ11 bays. First, they are perfect for some built in speakers! Perhaps an LCD. A single beer cooler. A built in Blu-Ray rack. You can never have too many bays. Unless you buy too many Michal Bay movies. Then you just need to buy some better movies

 

[FaRKle0079]

Question: Is there enough room to put the top fan on the RV02 outside of the case, just under the top cover? Thinking it might help cut down on the space the H70 takes up inside the case if I put one of the fans on the outside. Especially since it doesn't have a restrictive grill, just a removable wire grill.

You can't put a fan on top of the 120mm exhaust hole without cutting away some of the top covere frame unfortunately.

 

[Omerta]

Skylar, I get your point, but in the end, there's really no way to know if its cooling will be equal, worse, or even better than the ft02/rv02 until it's out in the flesh and reviewed. But i just don't see it cooling as well as the ft02/rv02 because of what I mentioned. You happen to think it won't make a difference. But we'll see once it is reviewed.

 

[MissJ84]

You can't put a fan on top of the 120mm exhaust hole without cutting away some of the top covere frame unfortunately.

I've thought about cutting the middle plastic piece (one of three) to accommodate a 120mm fan, but I'm too afraid the hole bracket would fall apart or something would be too loose and rattle.

 

[FaRKle0079]

I've thought about cutting the middle plastic piece (one of three) to accommodate a 120mm fan, but I'm too afraid the hole bracket would fall apart or something would be too loose and rattle.

I think it'd be fine. You wouldn't be mounting the fan to the top cover frame so it really wouldn't be getting any more vibration than it normally does. Also, you don't need to cut out ALL the frame, just enough s that the fan can sit there and not touch it.

 

[MissJ84]

I think it'd be fine. You wouldn't be mounting the fan to the top cover frame so it really wouldn't be getting any more vibration than it normally does. Also, you don't need to cut out ALL the frame, just enough s that the fan can sit there and not touch it.

You know what? You're right and Thank You! I started loosening the bent metal mesh tabs on the ends of middle piece a few weeks ago, which loosened the support of top metal mesh piece. After looking at it again, the two remaining plastic ends will still be securely attached and hold everything in place, even if I cut enough out for a 120mm fan. Time to start looking into an H70, now that my Classified's NB won't be in the way.

Edit: FaRKle, do you think I should cut out that whole section of plastic (depth wise), leaving only the mesh above or make a cut that's a little less deep which would leave some of the plastic intact. I'm thinking the later option wouldn't be as good, because the fan pulling heat off the radiator (top fan) would be blocked a bit by the remaining plastic. Opinions?

 

[SylarPowers]

Skylar, I get your point, but in the end, there's really no way to know if its cooling will be equal, worse, or even better than the ft02/rv02 until it's out in the flesh and reviewed. But i just don't see it cooling as well as the ft02/rv02 because of what I mentioned. You happen to think it won't make a difference. But we'll see once it is reviewed.

I just like playing mad pc case scientist, I can't help it, lol, but a shinny buffalo nickel says I'm right

 

[k.h]

I ordered a FT02B-W last week from Newegg and in my brilliance decided to order 2 AP181 also. Well, the case arrived and, lo and behold, it already has 3x AP181s in it . So, it seems like the cases are shipping with Silverstone's new fans! Yay RMA!

 

[FaRKle0079]

Edit: FaRKle, do you think I should cut out that whole section of plastic (depth wise), leaving only the mesh above or make a cut that's a little less deep which would leave some of the plastic intact. I'm thinking the later option wouldn't be as good, because the fan pulling heat off the radiator (top fan) would be blocked a bit by the remaining plastic. Opinions?

I don't see any harm in cutting out all of the plastic frame that might be in the way. For me however, I'd only cut out what I need to since it'll look better from the top. You're right that it'll block some airflow, but I don't think it'd make a significant difference. Changing the top mesh material to something more open would probably make a larger difference than the plastic frame.

I ordered a FT02B-W last week from Newegg and in my brilliance decided to order 2 AP181 also. Well, the case arrived and, lo and behold, it already has 3x AP181s in it . So, it seems like the cases are shipping with Silverstone's new fans! Yay RMA!

Hey wow! That's fantastic news. Thanks for sharing.

 

[NKDietrich]

I ordered a FT02B-W last week from Newegg and in my brilliance decided to order 2 AP181 also. Well, the case arrived and, lo and behold, it already has 3x AP181s in it . So, it seems like the cases are shipping with Silverstone's new fans! Yay RMA!

Sweet. I wonder if I'll get a pleasant surprise with my RV02 I ordered

 

[MissJ84]

I ordered a FT02B-W last week from Newegg and in my brilliance decided to order 2 AP181 also. Well, the case arrived and, lo and behold, it already has 3x AP181s in it . So, it seems like the cases are shipping with Silverstone's new fans! Yay RMA!

Wow and thank you! I'm going to try and sell my first gen case and pick up another instead of buying three AP181's.

I don't see any harm in cutting out all of the plastic frame that might be in the way. For me however, I'd only cut out what I need to since it'll look better from the top. You're right that it'll block some airflow, but I don't think it'd make a significant difference. Changing the top mesh material to something more open would probably make a larger difference than the plastic frame.

Thank you!

 

[indelible5]

I ordered a FT02B-W last week from Newegg and in my brilliance decided to order 2 AP181 also. Well, the case arrived and, lo and behold, it already has 3x AP181s in it . So, it seems like the cases are shipping with Silverstone's new fans! Yay RMA!

Sigh.. just got my shipping confirmation this afternoon on my 3x AP181's. Oh well, didn't buy them from NE and I am not worried about it. Such is life. I am better off as I do not want to try to sell this case and buy another and reinstall parts etc etc. Mass hassle IMO, but I know many of you have no problems changing your cases out frequently, not sure how you do it though

Tony did mention in a reply to one of my older posts that they were planning on updating the future shipments of FT02s with the AP's but thought they wouldn't hit the stores till late Q4-2010 or early Q1-2011 IIRC.

Nice score for you though, other than the RMA Hopefully they don't gouge you with a re-stocking fee on that..

 

[k.h]

Sigh.. just got my shipping confirmation this afternoon on my 3x AP181's. Oh well, didn't buy them from NE and I am not worried about it. Such is life. I am better off as I do not want to try to sell this case and buy another and reinstall parts etc etc. Mass hassle IMO, but I know many of you have no problems changing your cases out frequently, not sure how you do it though

Tony did mention in a reply to one of my older posts that they were planning on updating the future shipments of FT02s with the AP's but thought they wouldn't hit the stores till late Q4-2010 or early Q1-2011 IIRC.

Nice score for you though, other than the RMA Hopefully they don't gouge you with a re-stocking fee on that..

Re-stocking was $7.50 so with that and tax, it's like paying for shipping three times more. Still waiting for the fans to get here so I can ship them back lol.

 

[MissJ84]

Re-stocking was $7.50 so with that and tax, it's like paying for shipping three times more. Still waiting for the fans to get here so I can ship them back lol.

If you refuse delivery, Newegg generally will refund everything, including shipping...

 

[k.h]

If you refuse delivery, Newegg generally will refund everything, including shipping...

What?! And miss out on my anti-static bracelet?

Do I have to include some form of the RMA slip/number, or do I just tell the postman not to deliver it? It's being shipping via UPS.

EDIT: I already started the RMA process if that matters.