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Agreed w/ most of what you said and you were definitely on your toes to catch the sale, then RMA to get the black version, but a part of getting the silver vs black interior was a matter of luck since Newegg didn't simply stop selling the old stock, they continued selling silver Snipers till they sold out. I, too, noticed the switch when it happened but decided not to buy and instead leaned toward the CM 840 ATCS, Cosmos S and Antec p193. Then I heard about the FT02 to tempt me away from all those choices. Now that it's freakin' late Nov and we still haven't bought a case (but have all our other components), I do wish I'd just bought the Sniper back in Sept for bottom-dollar versus paying ~$300 for an FT02. My g/f liked the Sniper once I pointed out to her that it looked like a subwoofer.
 
Ugh so want the white ft02. I don't think I can drop that much though. Doubtful there will be a sale around x-mas on this brand new case...

P183 is most likely my destined case at this point.
 
coconutboy said:
Agreed w/ most of what you said and you were definitely on your toes to catch the sale, then RMA to get the black version, but a part of getting the silver vs black interior was a matter of luck since Newegg didn't simply stop selling the old stock, they continued selling silver Snipers till they sold out. I, too, noticed the switch when it happened but decided not to buy and instead leaned toward the CM 840 ATCS, Cosmos S and Antec p193. Then I heard about the FT02 to tempt me away from all those choices. Now that it's freakin' late Nov and we still haven't bought a case (but have all our other components), I do wish I'd just bought the Sniper back in Sept for bottom-dollar versus paying ~$300 for an FT02. My g/f liked the Sniper once I pointed out to her that it looked like a subwoofer.
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$250+shipping for this case is sick compared to the Raven for $159 w/ $20 rebate

I want this case, but for no more than $240 total. It seems like I'm paying extra for a piece of aluminum, sound proofing and minus the 8th pci slot.
 
+ shipping.

I get quoted $24.99 for ground on the RV02. Not as [H]ot, but still very warm.
 
How do you think the Corsair H50 would fit in the FT02?

It looks like the 120mm is in the optimal location.
 
It should fit fine. We already bought an H50 for whatever case we buy. Then after someone tipped me off to the FT02, I remembered looking at RV02 reviews/forums and there was a guy who posted pics using a Corsair H50 in his case. Don't know where the link is now, but you could probably google it. A full-fledged heatsink like the TRUE etc would give better performance for aggressive overclocking, but I'm using the H50 to keep the CPU area clear and the weight off the mobo while running a mild oc.
 
Think I'm ready to jump on this, but do you guys think that Silverstone will sell a side panel w/o window separately? All the pre-orders are for the one windowed version.
 
mtbush said:
Think I'm ready to jump on this, but do you guys think that Silverstone will sell a side panel w/o window separately? All the pre-orders are for the one windowed version.
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They have all 4 versions listed on their website, Black and Silver, with and without window.

SST-FT02B (black)
SST-FT02S (silver)
SST-FT02B-W (black + window)
SST-FT02S-W (silver + window)
 
ND40oz said:
They have all 4 versions listed on their website, Black and Silver, with and without window.

SST-FT02B (black)
SST-FT02S (silver)
SST-FT02B-W (black + window)
SST-FT02S-W (silver + window)
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Yeah, thanks. I know their going to sell a non-windowed version. What I'm asking is if I can buy the windowed version, does Silverstone usually make side panels available as an accessory like Lian-Li? Not a fan of windows, perforated openings, whatever...

I'm love the design and the simplicity of the case. I have to to say the silver FT02 is the closest thing to a Mac Pro enclosure. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple tried to sue them...;)
 
mtbush said:
Yeah, thanks. I know their going to sell a non-windowed version. What I'm asking is if I can buy the windowed version, does Silverstone usually make side panels available as an accessory like Lian-Li? Not a fan of windows, perforated openings, whatever...

I'm love the design and the simplicity of the case. I have to to say the silver FT02 is the closest thing to a Mac Pro enclosure. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple tried to sue them...;)
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Tony stated back a couple pages that they don't have a plan to release side panels seperately. It is a shame, because I would be willing to purchase another if I botched my mod on the first attempt.
 
Trigeminal said:
Tony stated back a couple pages that they don't have a plan to release side panels seperately. It is a shame, because I would be willing to purchase another if I botched my mod on the first attempt.
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They may be a dealbreaker for me as well.
 
FrozenCPU lowered the FT02 from $259 down to $249. Some good news.

Hopefully Newegg has is for even lower w/ free shipping.
 
mtbush said:
I'm love the design and the simplicity of the case. I have to to say the silver FT02 is the closest thing to a Mac Pro enclosure. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple tried to sue them...;)
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Lian Li PC-V1000 is the closest thing to a G5/Mac Pro case. (V1200 and V2000 being larger variants).

I really like the silver FT02 however the fact that they're not going to make any sort of optical drive bezel for it (like Lian Li does) is the deal breaker for me...otherwise I'd buy a silver FT02 as soon as I could.
 
Thanks for keeping an eye on the prices WorldE, it's good sign seeing prices dropping so quickly at multiple retailers. With all the pre-Thanksgiving bustle along w/ (finally) building my lady's gamer rig, makes me feel better knowing I'm not the only one constantly keeping tabs on the FT02. I'm doubtful that the pricing will be much of an improvement at Newegg, maybe $229-239, but I'm still crossing my fingers hoping for any kinda deal to make this an easier buy. Free shipping or even a MIR could be the difference between buying the FT02 now, or passing till I can find something else locally, probably for a lower price.
 
zero2dash said:
Lian Li PC-V1000 is the closest thing to a G5/Mac Pro case. (V1200 and V2000 being larger variants).

I really like the silver FT02 however the fact that they're not going to make any sort of optical drive bezel for it (like Lian Li does) is the deal breaker for me...otherwise I'd buy a silver FT02 as soon as I could.
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Stealth the drive with one of the bay covers... That's a pretty weak "deal breaker"
 
zero2dash said:
Lian Li PC-V1000 is the closest thing to a G5/Mac Pro case. (V1200 and V2000 being larger variants).

I really like the silver FT02 however the fact that they're not going to make any sort of optical drive bezel for it (like Lian Li does) is the deal breaker for me...otherwise I'd buy a silver FT02 as soon as I could.
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I, too, am looking for a Silver FT02 w/o the window so I can put my own on the inside like Silverstone should have done. The lack of 5.25 bezels (or any sort of replacement parts) is definitely a concern. wtf is Silverstone thinking when their main aluminum competitior, Lian Li, offers bucketloads of parts? It's probably because unlike Cooler Master/Antec/Lian Li, they don't offer a slew of cases with interchangable components to create different configs.

Also, I gotta say again that the Mac Pro is far superior to any PC case, in large part because Apple gets to all-in-one the case/mobo/cooling design. I've got two neighbors who both own a Mac Pro and I've spent some time working w/ one of them. Apple computers are stupidly overpriced versus their PC counterparts, but ya definitely can't knock their build quality; the engineering is outstanding. If you've never had hands-on experience working w/ a Mac Pro, Check out some of the Anandtech articles to get a better feel for how the chassis is put together.
 
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Also, I gotta say again that the Mac Pro is far superior to any PC case, in large part because Apple gets to all-in-one the case/mobo/cooling design. I've got two neighbors who both own a Mac Pro and I've spent some time working w/ one of them. Apple computers are stupidly overpriced versus their PC counterparts, but ya definitely can't knock their build quality; the engineering is outstanding. If you've never had hands-on experience working w/ a Mac Pro, Check out some of the Anandtech articles to get a better feel for how the chassis is put together.
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It's easy to build a Mac Pro case when the company has no intentions of other vendors making components for it or selling it in retail stores. If Apple allowed aftermarket upgradable parts for their cases, they would have the same ATX layout of every other PC case.
 
That's not a given. Sony, Alienware/Dell, HP, Asus, Shuttle and other OEM/ODM's also design pricey case/mobo/cooling system combos that allow for minimal uprades, but few consumer level systems match the Mac Pro chassis' combination of engineering, style and performance w/o becoming even more expensive than Apple's homebrew. Sure it's possible to beat Apple on design, but ya still gotta sell the thing and Apple actually manages to move product.

Edit- there are some really sweet deals going on at Newegg for all kinda stuff, including cases. Definitely do a bit of browsing if you're in the market. A few notables-

$150 Silverstone FT01 w/ MIR, but no free shipping meh
$60 Antec 900 or Cooler Master HAF after MIR
$40 Cooler Master 690 again w/ MIR
 
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Shipping is a pain so I always wait until they have free shipping.

Did you cancel your FT02 order?

I'm waiting to make a decision between the 800D, FT02 OR 840(which I had before).
But I'm not going to pay more than $250 shipped for the first two.
 
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WorldExclusive said:
I'm waiting to make a decision between the 800D, FT02 OR 840(which I had before).
But I'm not going to pay more than $250 shipped for the first two.
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Then go ahead and put in your order for another 840, cause neither the FT02 nor the 800D are going to be $250 shipped (even after MIR) for a while yet.
 
silent-circuit said:
Then go ahead and put in your order for another 840, cause neither the FT02 nor the 800D are going to be $250 shipped (even after MIR) for a while yet.
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I wouldn't be too sure about that for the ft02. The ft02 hasn't shown up at newegg yet and we all now that the smaller e-tailers charge more for cases, especially if they are the only ones with them in stock. When newegg stocks it, it will likely be below $239, but we'll have too wait and see. If he is willing to wait another month, he could very well find it much less ($230 shipped) than it was just a week ago ($269 plus shipping), but if he needs a case now, well the answer is obvious.

The 800D is a whole other story.
 
I'm confused. Did they change the white version to silver? Or was it always "silver"?

It certainly doesn't look the same color as it was first released. White was sexy.
 
Blt44 said:
I'm confused. Did they change the white version to silver? Or was it always "silver"?

It certainly doesn't look the same color as it was first released. White was sexy.
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The silver is white-ish, depends on the pic as how it looks, but it has always been the same silver-ish color.
 
silent-circuit said:
Then go ahead and put in your order for another 840, cause neither the FT02 nor the 800D are going to be $250 shipped (even after MIR) for a while yet.
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Price dropped on the FT02 again at SundialMicro to $244.99
Performance PC is selling it for $239.

It's going to happen.

I wouldn't mind another 840, the black versions haven't been discounted as of yet.
 
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Sorry I have been away for a while! Looks like some of you are still on the fence due to its price. I think we haven't done enough (or anything) to show how different it is to make a PC case with unibody frame as this is a major cost of FT02 over the similarly configured RV02. Besides our TJ07 and FT01 there isn't another computer enclosure available with this type of contruction. I'll try to get a few photos up soon, they should be quite interesting to see.

The following information probably won't make your decision any easier, but the first batch of FT02 that our US office received are all black with side window (FT02B-W). So if you don't need the side window and can wait until around the third week of next month, you can also consider the version with solid side panel (FT02B, FT02S), which should be available for about $10 less. :)
 
Good lord I'm still stuffed after all that food. Happy belated Thanksgiving to everyone here in the USA!

Thanks for the heads-up on the non-windowed versions, Tony. It makes it much more bearable as a consumer to have a definitive idea of when the non-windowed versions will be arriving and also what the price difference will be. For ~$10 or so, I'll probably buy the first silver version I can get my hands on unless retailers price gouge on the silver versus black models.
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The ft02 hasn't shown up at newegg yet and we all now that the smaller e-tailers charge more for cases, especially if they are the only ones with them in stock. When newegg stocks it, it will likely be below $239, but we'll have too wait and see.
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Bingo.

For early adopters, this case can't drop in price fast enough, I'm simply hoping for something close to $250 shipped w/ tax, otherwise I think we'll pass. Fast forward 6-12 months from now, if the FT02 is selling close to, or even below $200, sales volume ought to increase substantially since $200+ cases create a mental price barrier for many USA customers, even the luxury-seeking enthusiasts.

WorldExclusive said:
Shipping is a pain so I always wait until they have free shipping.

Did you cancel your FT02 order?
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I think maybe you're confusing me w/ SylarP? I didn't order an FT02. Pricing is still too high versus the Lian Li competition IMO.
 
coconutboy said:
For early adopters, this case can't drop in price fast enough, I'm simply hoping for something close to $250 shipped w/ tax, otherwise I think we'll pass. Fast forward 6-12 months from now, if the FT02 is selling close to, or even below $200, sales volume ought to increase substantially since $200+ cases create a mental price barrier for many USA customers, even the luxury-seeking enthusiasts.

I think maybe you're confusing me w/ SylarP? I didn't order an FT02. Pricing is still too high versus the Lian Li competition IMO.
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Yeah I got you confused with that person.

As for the price I agree. I'm ready to pay around $225-250 shipped depending on what Newegg or Amazon does. I'm looking for a ATCS 840 or 800D right now. If I find one with 25% off MSRP I will buy one of those instead, but the way Black Friday is turning out, no high-end hardware is going on sale. I understand the extra cost of the unibody exterior, but it's all about positioning the case amongst your competitors. There are so many alternatives in the $200+ range. I find it cool to have my GPUs pointing up, so an extra $50 is worth the mod.
 
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Stealth the drive with one of the bay covers... That's a pretty weak "deal breaker"
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Why should I spend $200 on a case that I have to mod? That's a weak argument in itself.
For $200 the case should be damn near perfect.

Modding $50 cases is expected. Modding $200 cases is retarded. :rolleyes:
One more thing - spending $200+ on a case and then trying to mod it is an exercise in futility. What if you screw up a bezel (or worse)? You're out $200. Give me a break man.

You mod a bezel so easily to stealth in a case; it's not easy. It's not as simple as "oh stick a Dremel on it for two minutes and cut here and here". That ain't how it works. Obviously you haven't modded anything before if you think something like that is that easy.

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Sorry I have been away for a while! Looks like some of you are still on the fence due to its price. I think we haven't done enough (or anything) to show how different it is to make a PC case with unibody frame as this is a major cost of FT02 over the similarly configured RV02.
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Likewise, this is also a weak argument. I mean no offense, but the case is above $200. It's nice, don't get me wrong...but it's over $200 and it's not 100% aluminum. I know the reasons why it's not, I don't need them to be repeated. For $200+, I'd expect a full aluminum case.

Sorry, I'm not trying to be devil's advocate or post anything negative about this case just for the sake of posting negative things; it's a nice case, I really like it...it's also a tough sell when the RV02 is cheaper, the RV01 will eventually be cheaper, and it's not 100% aluminum. The silver version is an even harder sell because black optical drives in a silver case look stupid (and anyone who's had a silver case that wasn't a Lian Li with the bezels knows just how stupid it looks).

You guys have an uphill climb. There's a million cases out there for less that do a great job; there's a lot of LL cases in that price range that are 100% aluminum. They may not have the same cooling setup, but they are 100% aluminum, if you buy a silver one you can get bezels for it. I'm just saying... I like the case, I'm disappointed in the price for what you get, sorry. If it was all aluminum, $220 would be easier to swallow. As it is if I get $220 to spend on a case, I'll probably go elsewhere. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade or launch party, I'm just sharing my opinion that's all. :eek:
 
I just had to bite.

Ordered it at sundialmicro because I could not wait any longer. I wanted one without the window but i'll live.

$274 shipped.. ouchhh

The case just looks too good in all areas. Thank god it's not all aluminum.

I've had to put my stuff in all aluminum flimsy crap before.. never again. The only way i'd think about an all aluminum case was if it was built out of very thick aluminum... and they never are. It would be too expensive anyways.
 
Aye, unless someone is having trouble moving their case around and absolutely needs to shave ~5-15lbs, aluminum is overrated for computer cases. I'd rather have sturdy steel although quality stuff isn't necessarily less expensive than Al. Just like aluminum, steel can also be brushed/sandblasted to look very nice as with kitchen/restaurant equipment, AV gear, or even stainless steel cases for the few people willing to incur the added cost/weight.

Most Al cases are thin and rickety or else the better Lian Li/Cooler Master/Silverstone products are made with thicker stuff which raises cost too much IMO. That's why I think Corsair/Silverstone have made smart decisions to keep costs down by mixing steel/Al on the 800d/FT02. I wonder what the cost difference would be for the FT02's unibody to be made of steel? If that could bring the price down toward the $150 range, I'd bet this case would be a top-seller although $150 is probably too optimistic; the manufacturing costs for the unibody, as Tony has indicated, are probably much more expensive than the material itself.
 
I ended up going for the Lian Li PC-B10. What a nice overlooked gem. Should hold me over till a TJ10 pops up. I only paid 220 delivered.
 
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