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Requesting Setup up on sorta-ghetto audio setup...

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HyperTension

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Ok, I found out that with children... one needs to limit buttons that light up at night. This resulted in taking down my 5.1 setup (started in 03, HK AVR-520, Bose (yes, yes... I found out the hard way) 710x2, 301x2 and VCS-10, combined with my Velodyne CHT-10. About 3 years ago, I realized that I preferred headphones (closed) for gaming and music (they block out Sesame Street, Barney, Thomas the Train, all god-awful pre-teen Disney and Nic shows). For this I used my Elite-Pro -> Audio GD Compass -> Denon 7000, and Kiplish Promedia 5.1's (still works like a gem!)

After updating to an EVGA Z68 FTW, I could no longer had any PCI slots, and I've suffered with onboard sound for 4+ months. Yesterday I purchased a Titanium HD, and while I was at it, why not see if my old 520 would still work with it... I figured I'd use the headphone out for my cans, keep the Velodyne sub, and use the remaining Kiplish speakers for my pc 5.1 sound........

5 hours later... I cannot get my receiver to recognize more than 2 channels using TOS-link optical-in/out. Using this, the "Surr. Off", "PCM", "Stereo" are lit up, and I am only seeing "L", and "R" as enabled speakers. If I play a Blu-Ray that has DTS, DTS will enable, but still only in 2 channels still. Accessing DDL/DTS Connect is not an option in either game / entertainment mode. I have the S/PDIF input under DVD, Optical 1 in the receiver, and the analog out to Tape (for headphones use only)

Via Windows (7 Pro), When I click on Speakers, I enable 5.1, but again, the sound will only appear in R/L front channels only.

With SPDIF Out (SB X-Fi), Properties, Supported Formats has both DTS audio and DD enabled, and yet with testing both, still only get sound from the R/L front speakers.

What else can I do, or should do? I really enjoyed how the Elite Pro did 5.1 on my Kiplish 5.1's and I think I was expecting the same. I have a feeling I'm loosing EAX as well by using a receiver (learning that really is not as big a deal as before). Primary usage is about 50/50 for gaming (BF3, SC2, CS:S) and music (mostly FLAC), with some Blu-Ray as well. When the kids are gone, I use the 5.1's, but when they are home / asleep using headphones.

Thanks for any advice on this...
 
spdif/toslink is PCM 2 channel only unless you have DolbyDigital or DTS material playing or DolbyDigital LIVE or DTS Connect.

and you have to set the X-fi card to 5.1 or 7.1 and spdif passthrough to get surround decoding or else it will decode the track and downmix it to 2 channel and even then games wont do EAX.

you kinda have to do analog for proper surround in gaming but for DD and DTS onDVD and BluRay, make sure the playback software is to passthrough and so is the X-fi otherwise the creative drivers will just decode the stream and pass PCM to the receiver.

For me personally this is the reason I gave up on Creative, they market all their cards as surround and 7.1 but aren't any better than onboard for spdif output and configuring the drivers was too much hassle. Good luck
 
Yeah, after spending hours scouring the internet for DTS decoding on sound cards, I just decided to screw it, and put my money towards a HTIB.
 
undermined said:
spdif/toslink is PCM 2 channel only unless you have DolbyDigital or DTS material playing or DolbyDigital LIVE or DTS Connect.

and you have to set the X-fi card to 5.1 or 7.1 and spdif passthrough to get surround decoding or else it will decode the track and downmix it to 2 channel and even then games wont do EAX.

you kinda have to do analog for proper surround in gaming but for DD and DTS onDVD and BluRay, make sure the playback software is to passthrough and so is the X-fi otherwise the creative drivers will just decode the stream and pass PCM to the receiver.

For me personally this is the reason I gave up on Creative, they market all their cards as surround and 7.1 but aren't any better than onboard for spdif output and configuring the drivers was too much hassle. Good luck
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I'm now trying to get the DDL pack running.. that's alot of fun. I can't get it to enable 5.1 in the creative console, but it will if I set that in "speaker" options via windows.. and even then its still 2 channel (not even 2.1 mind you). I have a feeling I'll be sending this back and going with something different. The more I research EAX, the more I'm getting the feeling that it's not even a significant issue nowadays.

Any other suggestions or ideas from anybody?
 
Got it working!!!.. Found some great info at guru3d.com (shameless obligated plug). Used both driver sweeper and crap cleaner after removing all creative software via CP->Programs. Rebooted, then ran both again to ensure removal. Installed PAX PCIe Titanium HD Driver Suite v1.00.7z.

Link: http://dl.technewshw.com/driver/PAX/PAX MASTER PCIe Titanium HD Driver Suite V1.00.7z

DDL and DTS all enabled via optical, Incredible improvement over standard driver set. Really need to give a "thanks", and another shameless plug for the PAX driver set. Just make sure EVERYTHING related to creative drivers are removed.. :)
 
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