Rejoining World of Warcraft after a 14 year hiatus. 2020 is surreal.

xMAGIUSx

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I played World of Warcraft from launch through the Burning Crusade before quitting because it was taking up too much of my life.

Fast forward to a week ago when my girlfriend casually mentioned she’d be interested in playing, and a fire has been lit.

Neither of us were aware of the big changes Shadowlands was bringing, and it feels like now is the perfect time to dive back in.

The game is so much more enjoyable now then when I last played, it’s almost like it’s not the same game. The graphics look better than I was expecting as well.

Anyone else here play? If so, what are some good resources for learning what is going on? So much has been added to the game since I last played that it’s tough to know what I’m missing out on.
 
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Starfalcon

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Ive been playing since vanilla, and the last several expansions have been like brand new games. Comparing to BC and it is a whole different game. The new game comes with exiled reach that walks new characters through how to play the game and their class. I played through it on beta and it seems they finally got a good way to teach players.
 

xMAGIUSx

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Ive been playing since vanilla, and the last several expansions have been like brand new games. Comparing to BC and it is a whole different game. The new game comes with exiled reach that walks new characters through how to play the game and their class. I played through it on beta and it seems they finally got a good way to teach players.
I’ll have to start a new character and run through Exiled Reach.

We dove right in with some level 50 characters because we got boost tokens for preordering. I’ve got a Draenai Druid and a Blood Elf Mage so far. Not sure if we want to go horde or alliance, so we made one lvl 50 for each.

Having a blast but have only really done PVE exploring so far. Can’t wait to know what going on so we can find a good guild to join.
 

ochadd

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I played Wow through BC as well and had to give up on MMOs due to my obsessiveness. I miss it but can't risk falling into a time trap. I put the 40-50 hours per week of "free" gaming time towards side jobs, my business, and learning to invest and my life improved considerably. I'm convinced SWG and WoW cost me $250-350k to date and likely over $2 million by retirement. I still view MMOs to be as beneficial as a meth addiction.
 

xMAGIUSx

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I played Wow through BC as well and had to give up on MMOs due to my obsessiveness. I miss it but can't risk falling into a time trap. I put the 40-50 hours per week of "free" gaming time towards side jobs, my business, and learning to invest and my life improved considerably. I'm convinced SWG and WoW cost me $250-350k to date and likely over $2 million by retirement. I still view MMOs to be as beneficial as a meth addiction.
I had similar thoughts, which is what kept me away for so long. I need a distraction from the monotony of working from home and not being able to go much of anywhere right now.

I wish I had some of your drive! I haven’t been nearly as productive with my time away.
 

Starfalcon

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I do not play nealy as much as I used to though, back in BC I was pretty hardcore, played 40+ a week on top of working 50 ish at work. Guild had imploded a few times over the last few expansions, until BFA where it died for good and me and my GM who were friends since BC are no longer friends or talking to each other. He and his fellow officer run M+ and I went full casual and just farm old raids for transmog now.
 

GotNoRice

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I've played since Vanilla and in every expansion. I played a Warrior early on in Vanilla but then switched to Resto Druid and have just played that one class and spec ever since. In some expansions I've been more casual than others. I had a good time playing in BFA. I found a nice laid-back guild and this ended up being the first time since WOTLK that I put in more than 120 days of played time in a single expansion.

Overall I like most of the changes that have been made to the game. I like that you can get raid-quality loot from 5-man mythic dungeons now, but I hate the emphasis on the timer, forcing everyone to try and rush through the dungeon every time. It's annoying to have everyone sprint off to the next pull while I'm still trying to drink and get mana. And god forbid someone needs to take a break to use the bathroom, refill their drink, tend to their kid, or whatever else during the middle of the run. You can't pause the timer. It just adds a layer of stress to the game that I wish wasn't there, as I've always preferred the more casual aka take your time approach. Many other changes have been great, such as how Normal and Heroic raids automatically scale to the number of people you have, so you don't need a fixed number of people to raid.

For resources I'd check out https://www.mmo-champion.com/ and https://www.wowhead.com/ MMO Champion is more of a news site where you can always see the latest updates to what is going on in WoW. Wowhead is more of a database for just about everything in the game (quests, items, raids, dungeons, etc).

It's pretty amazing how much the graphics have improved over the years, considering that they never stopped and started from scratch, and it's just been a slow evolution. It went from being a game that you could play on a Voodoo3 or TNT2 to a game that uses DirectX 12 and Ray Tracing. Unfortunately the downside of still having legacy elements of such an old engine is that it is not very well multi-threaded. It can use up to 4 cores or so for some things, but as long as your CPU has at least 4 cores, it's the single-core IPC of your CPU that will ultimately dictate your performance in WoW.
 
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Dan_D

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I know several people that have done the same thing. I guess they have the time on their hands or something. I played Star Wars the Old Republic for about 7 years. I've had no desire to go back to an MMO. The only thing that kept me playing SW:ToR for so long was my raid team and raiding. I knew them all in real life which helps. That I like, but everything else about MMO's I rather despise. Plus, Star Wars.
 

Westwood

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I've played since closed beta in 2004. Even have collector's edition Vanilla. About once a year I fall back into it. By week three I've cancelled my account. Just doesn't stick any more.
 

Jumpem

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Do you still miss out on the best gear if you play solo?

I played a Dwarf hunter that focused on pets a long time ago. I was inspired by the original cinematic. Here around 0:37.

 

GotNoRice

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Do you still miss out on the best gear if you play solo?

It depends on what you mean by play solo I guess. You can't get the best gear just from doing things like questing solo, but it can often help increase your character power in other ways. You can get raid-level gear from mythic 5-man dungeons, and there is a vibrant community of people who run pug mythic 5-man dungeons. So in that respect it's easier than ever to get gear even if you're not in a guild.
 

Jumpem

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It depends on what you mean by play solo I guess. You can't get the best gear just from doing things like questing solo, but it can often help increase your character power in other ways. You can get raid-level gear from mythic 5-man dungeons, and there is a vibrant community of people who run pug mythic 5-man dungeons. So in that respect it's easier than ever to get gear even if you're not in a guild.
I meant without any forced grouping.
 

exlink

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I've played every expansion since Vanilla except for Warlords of Draenor (which apparently was god awful so probably dodged a bullet). I thoroughly enjoyed the game and played all the content in Vanilla (except Naxx), TBC, WotLK, and Cata. Beginning in MoP things started slowing down for me and I quit halfway through. I came back for Legion and that was a pretty good expansion, better than MoP and Cata in my opinion. But BFA (latest expansion) sucked ass. I quit after 2 months and didn't look back. Grinding azerite power to level your neckpiece was an incredibly stupid concept. Azerite powers were also broken when I played. Instead I sunk my MMO time into WoW Classic which thankfully released during the shitshow that was BFA.

Hoping Shadowlands will be another good expansion and not a repeat of BFA!
 

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I have been unhappy with all the expansions since WOTLK, so Im skeptical of this one. I already ordered it, as I have with all the others on release, and will level and see, but I wont get excited or anything until I expereience it first hand. I just honestly dislike how the game has dumbed down so much. I kinda miss stat crunching and maximizing and other stuff of the earlier days.. And I *really* miss having real talent trees. I spend most of my WoW time on classic. I hope they do a BC classic server at some point, and maybe WOTLK. But at least BC, as that was my absolute favorite time.
 

WarriorX

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I have been unhappy with all the expansions since WOTLK, so Im skeptical of this one. I already ordered it, as I have with all the others on release, and will level and see, but I wont get excited or anything until I expereience it first hand. I just honestly dislike how the game has dumbed down so much. I kinda miss stat crunching and maximizing and other stuff of the earlier days.. And I *really* miss having real talent trees. I spend most of my WoW time on classic. I hope they do a BC classic server at some point, and maybe WOTLK. But at least BC, as that was my absolute favorite time.

Min/maxing never went away. Maybe toned down with the removing of certain attributes but BFA had Azerite traits and required a website to fine tune if you were really hardcore about it. I do think they over did it with removing stuff, but some of the stats they removed really didn't add anything. It was just some number you had to get to be effective and than forgot once you did.

Shadowlands returns a lot of skills that got removed several expansions ago which is nice. I actually had a lot of new/returned abilities when I logged on my paladin. Plus there a bunch of new traits to use when the expansion is available so perhaps min/maxing will be closer to what it use to be.
 

Chelica

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I jumped back in 3 months ago and have been enjoying my time. The latest changes in pre-patch is actually really good. Gives a really good cleaning to an old game. They can simply slap another expac with the same old stuff but the changes are welcomes IMO. Little things like being able to gender change in the barber versus using real world $$ is pretty cool.
 

FlawleZ

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I had similar thoughts, which is what kept me away for so long. I need a distraction from the monotony of working from home and not being able to go much of anywhere right now.

I wish I had some of your drive! I haven’t been nearly as productive with my time away.
Pickup a project. I needed something since COVID as well so I've been restoring an old ATV since this summer.
I still play games but limit it to things that can start and end quickly to keep from being too much of a time sink.
 

polydiol

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I play way too much WoW and I can see where the graphics have definitely been upgraded.

I use icy veins and wowhead primarily for resources and news, the regular WOW forums are good if you dont take it seriously and looking for a bit of humor.

My feelings on the overall state of the game - its certainly in a state of flux. There are problems with class design and it feels to me like there are not enough devs available to properly redesign and/or balance each class and spec available. Almost as if Activision is not willing to pay more than a handful and the ones that are working are probably stressed out and overworked.

I play/played a monk and I enjoyed it up until the latest prepatch as they took a severe hit and have not received any developer attention. I'm not upset about it, I've been spending time in game revisiting classes I never really played much this expansion such as Shaman and DK.
 
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