Razer DeathAdder vs. Logitech G9

The heated debates on mice and sensors etc always seems funny to me. Choosing a mouse is always personal preference. Go buy both then try them out. Return the one you don't like (or both and then buy the one you want online cheaper).

I did this for the copperhead, G5 and G7. I ended up keeping the G7.

As for ball mouse. Old School Boomslang 2000 FTW :)
 
I just picked up a Deathadder to replace my G9.

I wanted a sweet mouse with less bells and whistles. I used the mx510 until it shat out on me, then I went to a G7, and wore it out. I then decided to try a G9 and after a few months I just don't dig it. The grips and weights are a good idea in theory, but plenty of mice exist that have comfort without grips. The weight system I never really understood because I would rather lower my sensitivity as opposed to putting weights in my mouse.

I went with the G9 because of all the things mentioned about. Plus, on the fly DPI customization sounded awesome. Well, I can't really say much for either grip or the on the fly DPI. The grips are fine for gaming but for overall browsing I'd rather use something else. The DPI changing is pretty useless. It's inconvenient and it really throws you off when you try to snipe with low sens and then switch back to high for other stuff. The weights, well, I took them out. I just couldn't get them situated the way I liked them and had a lot more success just using the software.

I also have a problem with Logitech's theory behind mouse feet. The G series Logitechs have a large surface area that seems to create more drag, especially the G9.

The Razers on the other hand, do not have this issue. They all glide with very little effort and it really smooths out the movements.

The side buttons, Razer wins here too. The Logitech takes effort because of how thin the buttons are. I have to find them, and that's not good. The Razer has large, easy to click buttons. I can just slam my thumb in the general area and get the desired effect.

Just some comparisons. I can't say much about the laser vs optical, but the Adder seems a little more accurate.

This was completely unorganized and probably reads terribly, but whatever, it's some info. :)
 
rsgunter said:
I also have a problem with Logitech's theory behind mouse feet. The G series Logitechs have a large surface area that seems to create more drag, especially the G9.

The Razers on the other hand, do not have this issue. They all glide with very little effort and it really smooths out the movements.
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I switched from the DeathAdder to the G9 because of grip preference for fingertip control (the DeathAdder was just too long). Tracking on both was excellent, but something was different in feel. I couldn't put my finger on it until I read your post. The DeathAdder glided easier than the G9, which has more drag resistance.

EDIT: I forgot that my Razer Exactmat had two sides, and I was using the Control side in the past for more friction. I flipped it over to the Speed side, and now my G9 moves on it a lot better without having too much drag.
 
not one mention of the razer/ms habu mouse. i need a new mouse, my mx518 is almost dead. the habu looks like a very similar shape to both my mx518 and intellimouse 3.0, both of them are perfect for me. i was also looking at the lachesis. i like the functionality, but i dont think it would be very comfortable.
 
Stay away from the Habu. Many people have had issues with build quality and driver support. If you want something similar, go for the DeathAdder.
 
IMO, deathadder is about equal to a mx518, both are world class mouses. The g5/g9 does not even close to compare with them (lazer SUCKS for mice).
 
I disagree, the G9 is on par or better than those two mice. I've used them before. But whatever, personal preference.
 
Laser sensors aren't as good at tracking fast movements, but for people who use reasonably high levels of sensitivity (or rather people who don't use a ridiculously low amount of sensitivity) a laser mouse will track as good or better than an optical sensor. The vast majority of people won't have any tracking issues with a laser mouse.
 
Currently using 1600DPI and starting to find im getting too used to it and wanting to be faster, guess that is considered high levels of sensitivity, I think?
 
I just went from an old mx510 to a deathadder and I love the feel of the new mouse. Its a lot lighter in feel, but it slides so much easier than the old one. I recommend it for anyone.
 
My DeathAdder and Razor XT came today and let me tell you, it's so much better than the MX518. It's as smooth as eggs over the surface with amazing response time. I'm very happy with it so far.
 
refraxion said:
Currently using 1600DPI and starting to find im getting too used to it and wanting to be faster, guess that is considered high levels of sensitivity, I think?
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It also depends on how your mouse speed is set through drivers and the different games you play. I use a medium amount of sensitivity and it takes about 1.5 inches of sideways movement to go all the way across my monitor (1280 pixels horizontally), so you can judge your own speed according to that if you like.
 
NACZ3 said:
The heated debates on mice and sensors etc always seems funny to me. Choosing a mouse is always personal preference. Go buy both then try them out. Return the one you don't like (or both and then buy the one you want online cheaper).

I did this for the copperhead, G5 and G7. I ended up keeping the G7.

As for ball mouse. Old School Boomslang 2000 FTW :)
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Precisely. It's a pointless endeavor to try to quantify the goodness of a mouse. ESReality's review does nothing but tell you numbers that don't actually mean anything as far as the practical application of the mouse goes. Either the sensor skips for you at the speeds you move the mouse at or it doesn't, you don't sit at your desk measuring the shit to compare it to the failure velocity that crackpot calculates. The shape is uncomfortable in your hand, the buttons suck, the software is bloated and broken, the feet blow ass, it doesn't work well with your particular mousepad, these things cannot be quantified or anticipated, you just have to FUCKING TRY THE MOUSE.
 
krameriffic said:
Precisely. It's a pointless endeavor to try to quantify the goodness of a mouse. ESReality's review does nothing but tell you numbers that don't actually mean anything as far as the practical application of the mouse goes. Either the sensor skips for you at the speeds you move the mouse at or it doesn't, you don't sit at your desk measuring the shit to compare it to the failure velocity that crackpot calculates. The shape is uncomfortable in your hand, the buttons suck, the software is bloated and broken, the feet blow ass, it doesn't work well with your particular mousepad, these things cannot be quantified or anticipated, you just have to FUCKING TRY THE MOUSE.
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I half agree with you on this. Everyone has their own opinion on how comfortable a mouse can feel, but there's no disputing the performance of a sensor. I guess that's what the ESReality review was more or less aiming for, and I feel they did a heck of a job at that.
 
i've been a lifelong and diehard razer fan (because i never have liked logitech mice, they ALWAYS break on me) and have always used their mice BUT along came the G9 and i have to say its the only logitech mouse that i prefer over any of the razer mice.

QUIET buttons, not so loud and clicky and the metal wheel and the weights plus the interchangeable handgrips

the ONLY thing missing that IMO would make it the perfect mouse is the DPI settings - you only get 5 which makes me say WTF are they thinking
the razer gives you (i forget how many) maybe 20 or 30 in 125 DPI increments and can go lower and higher then the logitech. TINY adjustments in sensitivity rather than the 400DPI minimum jump with the logitetech. now THAT pays off much more online:D

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i forgot to add the deathadder is the ONLY razer mouse that i didnt have to unplug and plug back in to get windows to see the mouse after EVERY bootup or reboot.
even the lachesis did this and the first thing i thought is *sigh* here we go again:(
i'll download the latest drivers and firmware and retry it and see what happens.
 
For mice that have problems at either low or high DPI, can't you simply set it to a safe DPI range, and then change the actual "Sensitivity" setting, either in-game or in Windows? Or will that still produce the same problems?

Anyway, I used the MX518 for a long time, and its definitely an amazing mouse. Mine eventually became very worn out though, and makes an annoying high-pitched whine that drives me insane. I bought a G9 a couple months ago, and while its a good mouse, I don't like it as much. The right click is far too sensitive- I can't rest my finger on it without clicking(and I by no means have heavy fingers :p). The thumb buttons are too close together as well, I often click both by accident. It is comfortable and tracks well, though.

I ordered a Deathadder over a week ago and it still hasn't arrived, so I'm starting to think it was lost in the mail(it shouldn't take 5 days to go through one state). I'll post what I think about it if it ever arrives.
 
I love my Deathadder, best mouse I have ever used. Feels like an Intellimouse Explorer, only higher quality.
 
Raxxath said:
For mice that have problems at either low or high DPI, can't you simply set it to a safe DPI range, and then change the actual "Sensitivity" setting, either in-game or in Windows? Or will that still produce the same problems?

Anyway, I used the MX518 for a long time, and its definitely an amazing mouse. Mine eventually became very worn out though, and makes an annoying high-pitched whine that drives me insane. I bought a G9 a couple months ago, and while its a good mouse, I don't like it as much. The right click is far too sensitive- I can't rest my finger on it without clicking(and I by no means have heavy fingers :p). The thumb buttons are too close together as well, I often click both by accident. It is comfortable and tracks well, though.

I ordered a Deathadder over a week ago and it still hasn't arrived, so I'm starting to think it was lost in the mail(it shouldn't take 5 days to go through one state). I'll post what I think about it if it ever arrives.
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You can't really do that. The mouse's performance is too contingent on too many factors. It really has to be the right mix. Some mice do interpolation at the software level to "fake" a DPI higher than the mouse is actually capable of doing. This causes skipping and all kinds of other issues that can't simply be remedied by lower Windows mouse sensitivity. FYI, if Windows mouse sensitivity is anywhere above or below the 6th notch, you won't get 1:1 cursor movement, so you don't want it anywhere other than that notch. From that point on, you can determine what setting you want to mouse to be at.
 
I ordered a Death Adder at Circuit City for $25.96 for in-store pick up. I ended up getting a $24 free gift card because it wasn't ready. Out of the box, it's fits my hand perfectly.
 
Very pleased with my deathadder. Been using it for 3 months with a razar steelpad and Im quite pleased.
I found the G9 to be akward.
 
i love my deathadder also, the only thing i didnt like about it how loud the buttons click. loud hard to press buttons to me are very annoying. i almost want to pick up another one actually. dont get me wrong, the G9 is awesome but i have to agree with most here and say the the G9 and the deathadder are neck and neck IMO
 
Guitarrasdeamor said:
The G9 just looks so....ew to me. IDK, it just isn't my style. It looks very uncomfortable,
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i thought the exact same thing. i just gave it a shot and like it. funky looking mouse but its pretty sweet actually. its very high quality, i'll give it that. its like they took the MX revolution and made it a gaming mouse, i dont care for any logitech mice but this one.
 
deathadder, i love it. i don't know if the g9 is similar to the g7 but after a few hours of use on the g7 my fingers would cramp, the mouse was too narrow. but the deathadder is perfect, very comfortable for long uses
 
Dunan said:
i thought the exact same thing. i just gave it a shot and like it. funky looking mouse but its pretty sweet actually. its very high quality, i'll give it that. its like they took the MX revolution and made it a gaming mouse, i dont care for any logitech mice but this one.
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Yeah.. at first it didnt catch on that well, now I like the G9, and I love the look of it.
 
ajm786 said:
You can't really do that. The mouse's performance is too contingent on too many factors. It really has to be the right mix. Some mice do interpolation at the software level to "fake" a DPI higher than the mouse is actually capable of doing. This causes skipping and all kinds of other issues that can't simply be remedied by lower Windows mouse sensitivity. FYI, if Windows mouse sensitivity is anywhere above or below the 6th notch, you won't get 1:1 cursor movement, so you don't want it anywhere other than that notch. From that point on, you can determine what setting you want to mouse to be at.
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Thanks for that info, I'll be sure to keep it at the sixth notch from now on. But what about the sensitivity setting in the Logitech software? And how about in-game sensitivity settings? Are they both detrimental to accuracy as well?
 
The Ratpadz XT with the Razer DeathAdder makes me feel like a southern woman who's getting the vapors.
 
Raxxath said:
Thanks for that info, I'll be sure to keep it at the sixth notch from now on. But what about the sensitivity setting in the Logitech software? And how about in-game sensitivity settings? Are they both detrimental to accuracy as well?
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That would be totally up to you, as long as it's a SEPARATE setting from the actual Windows pointer speed adjustment. I know for a fact that Razer offers separate adjustment, not to sure about Logitech. Adjust that as well as in-game sensitivity as you see fit. Normally, what I do is raise the mouse DPI to max, then lower the in-game sensitivity. This normally gives me better precision.
 
Raxxath said:
But what about the sensitivity setting in the Logitech software? And how about in-game sensitivity settings? Are they both detrimental to accuracy as well?
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Logitech's Setpoint software, as well as in-game sensitivity settings, control sensitivity independently of the Windows pointer control, so you can use those to adjust your mouse.
 
I've been using the G9 since release day and it's been incredible. I tried to use my G7 the other day on an alt computer, and it was hard to go back to.
 
i love both mice. the build of the G9 and the on the fly sensitivity of the razer
 
i like my Deathadder more than my G5, for whatever its worth....


And i just bought a lycosa, so i'm officially a whore for Razer :p
 
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