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Raid Question?

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[MADHACKER]Weapon

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Hey all,

I've got a simple Raid Question for you. I have an Asus K8VSE Deluxe and a buddy of mine has an Asus A7N8X Deluxe and we would both like to do Raid 0. Now the only question I have is it worth it? Would I see my FPS go up in games?

I seriously doubt it. And I've explained to my buddy who wants a higher 3Dmark score :rolleyes: that it won't increase his FPS, it will only load things alot faster then usuall.
 
Raid will not raise the FPS. That is CPU and FSB and video card related.

As far as loading things a lot faster. Figure about 30% faster maybe a little more. But not much. The thing to remember on Raid 0. Anything on Raid 0 is disposable. A equipment failure or a broken stripe means you have lost everything most likely. It will also raise you access times. Which means in a game if it hits the HDD for info you might see a lag in the game till it catches up.
 
Thanx.

Thats whay I tried to tell him but one of our local PC shops has convinced him that it will raise his FPS, I've told him time and time again that it will not increase his FPS but he still believes it will...
 
Tell him to find a better PC shop. They are feeding him a line there. Or tell that shop to log in here and tell us how Raid 0 will increase FPS. Tell them to use this thread also. Lets keep this neat and tidy. LOL

I have used Raid 0 before. I didn't see any difference in FPS with 3DMark. This was on a computer that had run a single drive for 6 months before I setup Raid 0 on it. So I did compare both ways.
 
I was getting ready to setup a new sys with dual 74gig WD Raptors. Would you not recommend that? Will it not be reliable, trustworthy, whatever you want to call it. :) I read a thread where they said newer raid setups were a lot better than older. Installing a SCSI 15K drive is an option. I just thought the raptor setup would be the way to go.

S@nDmaN
 
for gaming, your load times will decrease
but if your drive is actually being accessed heavily during gaming
thats the pagefile and you dont have enough RAM
and a HDD is several orders slower than RAM
regardless of how fast it is

Snugglebear said:
As for HDD access vs. RAM, the old rule of thumb is such: If looking up a piece of data in RAM takes as long as picking up a book, checking the index, then flipping to a page, looking up a piece of data on the HDD would take you two years.
Click to expand...

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1026184973#post1026184973
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=762539
 
I'm putting 4 baby raptors in a video/folding dedicated machine. Games on the old rig. Anybody used the raid0+1 on a IC7 Max3? I'm thinking I need to put a 16GB partition for video files, use remainder for OS, video programs, and F@H. Heck, I don't even know how big a drive my system will see. Just learning, so any info would be appreciated. I've been using 2 120 GB IDE drives, and one of them goes into the newer box. I have zero experience with Raid or partitions.
 
in a RAID 0+1 array, youd see half the attached capacity
Stripe (0) being additive, and mirror (1) invisible

it would all appear as a single HDD from inside the OS
and youd be able to partition it like any other HDD
 
Ice Czar said:
for gaming, your load times will decrease
but if your drive is actually being accessed heavily during gaming
thats the pagefile and you dont have enough RAM
and a HDD is several orders slower than RAM
regardless of how fast it is



http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1026184973#post1026184973
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=762539
Click to expand...

So a system running a standard 80gig SATA 7200 RPM Drive will run games smoother than a system running dual 74, gig 10,000rpm Raptors in Raid 0? Someone please let me know if I am understanding this correctly, or if this is true.

S@ndman
 
sandman78 said:
will run games smoother than
Click to expand...

likely there wouldnt be much percieved difference "in game"
as it mentions in that thread, if you got the hardware, try it
if not, there are several advantages to having multiple HDDs
like multiple pagefiles (basically RAID for the virtual memory, without the need of actually having an array) backup potentials, transfer advantages ect

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=754424 > Partitioning and Optimizing Tutorial
(also recommend the As the Disc Spins Series, and the rest as a matter of faq :p )
 
Yikes, I got troubles galore ahead. Thank you for the informative links. With all 4 SATA connector heads side by side by, well you get the idea. Even shielding the cables, which lay against each other, won't be enough, will it? The drives will be stacked in sequence, more interference, huh? The redundancy of 0+1 is a must, but still wasting quite a bit of time correcting errors.
 
The company is called PC People www.pcpeople.com , I swear the company is a sham, I will never ever buy from them since all the crap I've heard about them, but they seem to be able to swindle alot of people.

I remember a few years ago when the Athlon XP 3000+ came out and I was gonna order from them since they were the only ones to do it. They wanted $1200 canadian for it.... The owner gave me his card so I thought I would contact them by email to say I found it for less which I did but when I emailed them it said that the company was located in California and they had no clue that there was another store elsewhere in the world. They told me to contact the BBB ( Better Business Bureau ) and report them which I did, they had to switch their website and are constantly updating it because most techies in Edmonton Laugh at their prices.
 
take the cautions seriously regarding the routing
and test, transfer files around (copy) and run comparitive checksums
fsum is one there are several can also try to run ATACT demo,
but I couldnt instruct you with an SATA RAID, not sure of what type of additional configuration it would require,
Ive just used it for PATA onboard channels

there are some sheilded cables out there, but unless your actually experiencing issues
I wouldnt rush out and buy them
PATA has the same issues (see the Corruption 101)
most of the time, data is just resent, so its generally reliable
the question is how critical is the data, and is there actually corruption

but SATA RAID corruption has been empirically reported
Id imagine the SATA controller and drivers also has a bearing on that
 
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