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Radeon XT temps?

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TheGamerZ

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Well, with the release of the Catalyst 4.1 drivers and the ability to read the temps off the 9600XT and 9800XT, lets compare shall we?


ATi Radeon 9600XT 128MB w/ OverDrive maxed out
Temp ranges from 37C to 42C with AS3 and the stock cooler.
 
funny called ati aboutmy temps they are totaslly of base with the new 4.10 driver montior, 71c idle and 79 load. They had no answer. Anyone else having these temps?
My cpu oced is fine never over 53c idle like 39c w a zalamn 700-acu
 
Yea I thought mine were wrong at first because every other reported temp I see is well into the 70's.

I can only attribute it to the fact that I put much shorter pins on the heatsink to hold it to the board (because I had to actually break the original ones to get the cooler off). I had to almost physically bend the board slightly to get them in. So the cooler is extremely tight against the GPU core and with AS3 in there, It's running uber cool.
 
I recently bought a Visiontek 9600xt and was wondering where the temperatures are actually displayed. I have had both the 3.9 and 4.1 cats installed but there is no overdrive or temperature display. I heard that some cards have thermal diodes and some do not. I find it hard to believe that ATI produces two different cores, one with and one without the thermal diode. Does anyone have any information on this? If so do you have any links? Thanks
katarn
 
The temps for 9800xt's are 20 degrees higher than they should be in the 4.1's.


the 9600XT's have the correct temps.
 
Once again people think drivers increased their temps :confused:

1. The 9600XT's have an on-die thermal diode, and we are using that for thermal checks and as the reported temperature

2. The 9800XTs do not have an on-die thermal diode. They have an on package thermistor and an on-board thermal sensor chip. The thermistor is very close to the ASIC die and the thermal transfer is very close to being constant, so a constant delta is fine.

3. We've done HW qualification testing on 9800XT's in various configurations, and we've found that there's a very consistent delta differential between reported thermal data and measure ON DIE temperature.

4. We can use the reported thermal data from both sources for OC calibration

5. The offset of 20 degrees is an approximation of the temperature differential on 98's, and is only used in the control panel temperature report. This temperature does not need to be exact, it just needs to be roughly accurate, which it is within a degree or two. This was experimentally gathered information

6. Future changes might refine this process, as we deem fit. We are constantly developing this technology and from the 9600 onward, we plan to have (not guaranteeing we will though) on die thermal diodes in all of our products and in the future, other much more complex on die thermal logic.
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hmm my temps at idle are at 29C loaded 40-50C but thats the temps on my bios. you say with the new 4.1s you can check temps of your ati card?! can i check temps with my ati radeon 9800 Pro on the 4.1s? how can i do this? i noticed that the 9800pro runs hotter than 9700pro my case heated faster....my cpu is not overclocked my 9800pro is slightly overclocked check sig....but how do i check temps on the fly without having to go into bios?
 
Originally posted by Mikey20
hmm my temps at idle are at 29C loaded 40-50C but thats the temps on my bios. you say with the new 4.1s you can check temps of your ati card?! can i check temps with my ati radeon 9800 Pro on the 4.1s? how can i do this? i noticed that the 9800pro runs hotter than 9700pro my case heated faster....my cpu is not overclocked my 9800pro is slightly overclocked check sig....but how do i check temps on the fly without having to go into bios?
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Oh man... the temps in the BIOS have nothing to do with your video card. It's either the mobo chipset's or the CPU's temp. There is no way at all to measure the core temp of your card at all because only XT cards have some kind of thermal measurement diode.
 
Originally posted by Spidey329
50*C. But I have good ventilation and I'm not OCed.
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That's because you measure it with Rivatuner. Try the overdrive tab in the latest 4.1 Catalysts. You'll see 70 C.
 
I've got my Radeon 9600xt overclocked with RadLinker from 500/600 to 607/702 at according to the new drivers the card is running at 33C. I've yet to see it go over 40C to be honest, even when I minimize and check it while playing a game.

Problem for me with these new drivers is that I noticed I droped down 2500 3DMarks in 3DMark2001SE. That really pissed me off, and I'm fairly certain I'm going back to the 3.10s.
 
so unless i have an xt card i can't check the temp of my card? not even with a 9800pro?
 
These GPUs run hotter then almose any other card out there, sao dont fret as long as you arent getting any graphical glitches or wierd artifacts its ok, you got good ventilation in your case thats always a bonus.
 
Once again the 9600Xt's report the right temp.

The 9800XT's temp are reported 20 degrees too high.

Its and issue with the driver.

The driver adds 20 degrees to the temp of the 9800xt.

Its not actually running that hot.
 
Originally posted by foofighter06
Once again the 9600Xt's report the right temp.

The 9800XT's temp are reported 20 degrees too high.

Its and issue with the driver.

The driver adds 20 degrees to the temp of the 9800xt.

Its not actually running that hot.
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Its not a issue with the driver. As said in my last post...

1. The 9600XT's have an on-die thermal diode, and we are using that for thermal checks and as the reported temperature

2. The 9800XTs do not have an on-die thermal diode. They have an on package thermistor and an on-board thermal sensor chip. The thermistor is very close to the ASIC die and the thermal transfer is very close to being constant, so a constant delta is fine.

3. We've done HW qualification testing on 9800XT's in various configurations, and we've found that there's a very consistent delta differential between reported thermal data and measure ON DIE temperature.

4. We can use the reported thermal data from both sources for OC calibration

5. The offset of 20 degrees is an approximation of the temperature differential on 98's, and is only used in the control panel temperature report. This temperature does not need to be exact, it just needs to be roughly accurate, which it is within a degree or two. This was experimentally gathered information

6. Future changes might refine this process, as we deem fit. We are constantly developing this technology and from the 9600 onward, we plan to have (not guaranteeing we will though) on die thermal diodes in all of our products and in the future, other much more complex on die thermal logic.
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Now here is a good reason to roll back to the previous version )-:

Problem for me with these new drivers is that I noticed I droped down 2500 3DMarks in 3DMark2001SE. That really pissed me off, and I'm fairly certain I'm going back to the 3.10s. [/B]
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Yeah, too bad its not the driver that dropped his score. He probably left AA/AF and higher quality on than he did with the 3.10's.
 
I was getting 70 on idle and 74 load, so I reinstalled them (b/c the overdrive tab disappered). Now it hits 48 idle and 54 on load (I don't know what that was about).
Anyone know the limits for temps with the 9800xt I'm thinking about overclocking if the max temp is like 75 or something (but seeing that the temps are not 100% true).
 
I've got a Sapphire 9600XT Ultimate (with passive Heatpipe cooling)
the temperature increased (while gaming) higher than 80C I was really surprised.
I hadn't any case fan, only two very slow running fan from the powersupply. Now I have installed an extra fan near by the card and the temperature is at 46C on Idle and is going up to 72C on gaming. Could this be normal? The temperature (Cats 4.1) should be correct it'is a 9600XT.

What would be the maximum temperature without any damage on the GPU???

For all with XT and no temperature info:
the catalyst 4.1 (graphic driver 6.14.10.6414) package has to be used with the control panel 6.14.10.5071

the temperature was not visible with 6.14.10.5072 which was delivered with some catalyst 3.1 (I was confused also)

Thanks in advance.
 
ok mine is a Built by ATI 9600XT, and at 576/345 and no artifacts, with my fans all the way up in the case at idle it is a cool 31, under load it is 34. with the fans all the way down, and at idle it is 30, and under load it is 36, so i think this new cheiftec case helped, because in my old crappy i was bustin like 48, and 50 under load.
 
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