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Radeon 9800 Pro bad prefomace problem

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CyberPunk_1000

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Hi all this is my first post (ive been lurking for a long time reading the forums).

Well i got my self a Radeon 9800 Pro about 4 months ago at the time running a P4 2.2 GHz 512meg samsung PC800 Rambus with a Gigabyte 8IHXP and Geforce 3, i installed the card and practicaly got no frame rate diffrence in unreal 2.

So i rang the company i bought it from (overclockers.co.uk) they wernt to helpfull so after trying a few things, i put it down to a CPU bottle neck.

This week i upgraded (on the cheap) to a P4 3.06 GHz 512 twinmos DDR 333 ram. on a gigabyte ga-8pe667. once again i hit the unreal 2 and postal 2 problems of only running at 20-40 fps. this stuck me as odd because i built a 2.8Ghz P4 wiht ATI Radeon 9600 for a friend and it runs at 70fps+

this time i posted on there forums as first port of call and once again to no luck, so i though id ask advise from the experts mainly the [H] crew.

So what can i do ? ive set the AGP to 4x (fastes i can go) 256MB apature size (was 128) which gave me 5-6 fps increase, im using the latest cats, and a fresh install of xp. Thanks all !
 
go to start run dxdiag check to make sure that texture acceleration is on under display. did you install the chipset drivers?
 
Are yer chipset drivers working properly?
Are aa, af and vsync off?
Did you install yer drivers in the proper order?
 
yup texture acceleration is on, AA, AF and vsycn is off. also the chipset drivers are installed. as for the proper order ? is there one ?
 
Yes

The proper order of install yer drivers are,

6) Critical Installation Order to keep your system the fastest is:

a) Install Windows
b) Install any BIOS updates.
c) Install any Windows Service Packs and Critical Windows Updates
d) Install the correct chipset drivers (such as Via 4-in-one drivers or Intel inf updates) that the manufacturer of your motherboard recommends
e) Install DirectX (some say to do this step after step e as well)
f) Install video card driver and sound card driver and all other device drivers
g) Install Intel Application Accelerator (only if you have a motherboard with Intel chipset). Some people are finding its better not to use the Intel Application Accelerator, so you could skip that one if you wanted.

The most important of these above is to make sure you do step d BEFORE you do steps e and f and g. Failure to do this will result in much slower system and game performance. If you ever update those motherboard chipset drivers again at a later date be sure you uninstall your video and sound drivers first and boot up in Safe mode to install the chipset drivers then after that is done you can put your video card and sound card drivers back in.
 
ok thats the way i did the install. just to check tho, ive benchmarked my system on a 2.2 GHz i was getting wiht 3dmark 2003 : 5245 3DMarks and with my 3ghz system im getting 5415 3DMarks. wihch seems suspicioly low when looking on futuremarks site im seeing people wiht 7000 marks+
 
Originally posted by CyberPunk_1000
ok thats the way i did the install. just to check tho, ive benchmarked my system on a 2.2 GHz i was getting wiht 3dmark 2003 : 5245 3DMarks and with my 3ghz system im getting 5415 3DMarks. wihch seems suspicioly low when looking on futuremarks site im seeing people wiht 7000 marks+
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When you look closely at those other scores, you'll see that those 7000+ scores are from systems that have their processors and FSB overclocked way beyond specifications, and their video cards also overclocked to the max.

And yeah, your 5415 score is about what you'd expect from a stock 3.2GHz P4 and a stock R9800 Pro, with the driver quality parameters set at the factory defaults (like, 2xAA and 4xAF had been forced on, and the VSync set to "Application Preference").
 
so my scores, are ok ? (yeah every thing is stock config). but saying that unreal tornament 2003 is giving me ok frame rates 160 advrage FPS using Hardocp benchmark on flyby at high, so in which case would it be a problem wiht unreal 2 and postal 2? but if thats the case why did the other system i put together preform so well with only a 9600 ?
 
Originally posted by CyberPunk_1000
so my scores, are ok ? (yeah every thing is stock config).
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Yes, that's what you'd expect if you don't tinker around with the CPU, memory or video card settings.
 
Originally posted by CyberPunk_1000
so my scores, are ok ? (yeah every thing is stock config). but saying that unreal tornament 2003 is giving me ok frame rates 160 advrage FPS using Hardocp benchmark on flyby at high, so in which case would it be a problem wiht unreal 2 and postal 2? but if thats the case why did the other system i put together preform so well with only a 9600 ?
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I don't understand your question... if you have a flyby giving you 160 fps then you have something with the game messed up if you only get 20 fps in it. reinstall the game and look at all the game settings
 
ok to clarify

using Hardbenchmark for unreal tornament 2003 i get 160 frames on adverage wiht 40 fps lowest on dm atlas wiht high quality.

how ever postal 2 and unreal 2 give me frame rates in the 20-40s eaven after reinstalls.

all in all every thing seems ok other than those, and the fact that a simliar system wiht a lower spec card can deliver better resutls is some what confusing.
 
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