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The Question
I would like a recomendation fro the [H] crew on racing wheel.
I've been getting into racing games lately, and thought i should own a
wheel in my commemoration.

The Problem: Im cheap, jobless, college books are a bitch to pay off as it is.

The Solution: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=315081&pfp=SEARCH

Will it come back and bite me in the ass, or will i be satisfied, for the force feedback isnt
all the fun i can have.
 
For cheap, I owned till recently a Microsoft sidewinder racing wheel (non force). had it for 4 years and loved it. Don't know about your selection, never owned one.

I now have a Logitech Momo (force). It's the best $90 i ever spent.
 
probably doesnt have a very large range of rotation, after using the 270 degree wheel with GT4, its hard to use anything else
 
logitech driving force pro...

i have it and its heaven playing GT4

u can hook it up to pc too

just need to dl a driver from logitech...

the things goes around $100 online
 
Either get the older red Logitech Momo Force or a Logitech Driving Force Pro. Id recommend the DFP, its a great wheel and gives 900* of rotation which is amazing.
 
If you can swing about $70 and can find one, get a Microsoft SideWinder Force Feedback Wheel. It will bring racing games that make good use of force feedback to life.
 
no doubt if your on a budget the DFP is the one to get.
 
I have the DFP and its great only thing is there's no way, I think, you can make 900 degrees work on PC..
 
the DFP is NOT for budget minded people.
you can get a sidewinder wheel for 40~ on ebay, and that will be fine.
 
DeViLdUdE said:
I have the DFP and its great only thing is there's no way, I think, you can make 900 degrees work on PC..
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Must depend on the game, I know you can use the full 900* in LFS.
 
sethmo said:
Must depend on the game, I know you can use the full 900* in LFS.
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With the latest drivers from Logitech, you can use any degree lock-to-lock you want for any game. It's brilliant :p

Of course, results are best when the game is designed for higher lock-to-lock, like Gran Turismo 4.
 
If it weren't for the budget part I'd say TSW.

Otherwise find a DFP or a MOMO.
 
moetop said:
It looks like you may have to Enable the 900 degrees on the DFP. (Havent had a chance to use mine yet. just got it. )
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Searching forums works. Thanks for that link. I was going mad!

granturismo-racing.com said:
Select + R3 + Wheel mounted Right Paddle shifter (R1) = 900 degrees
Select + R3 + Wheel mounted Left Paddle shifter (L1) = 100% force feed back
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People buying cheaper wheels just fools themselves.

Yes the DFP costs a bit more but then it lasts much much longer. Same with MOMO Force red. That one is built like a tank.

So to go cheap you get less quality and it doesn´t really get cheaper. Unless you maybe drive racing games 2 weeks every year or so.

Now the problem with any consumer wheel is the pedals and to buy real pedals cost money. However generally it´s the pots that is failing and you can easily get new from digikey if you are out of warranty for the dfp and momo force red.

I would say either a MOMO Force red or a DFP. 900 degree rotation is utterly useless. 560 more than that is just not needed and it´s really quite unrealistic unless you drive stationary wagons all the time. Rally cars have about 560 but for all other type of competitive races they have much less than that really to make the steering more responsive. Also it´s more competitive to use say 460 which is about what I can master to get full right/left movement without twisting my arms or changing grip to much.

So the 270 degree limitation of the MOMO Force red is not really a problem. It´s nice to be able to adjust from 200-560 though depending on what sim you run :).

PRO:s for the MOMO Force red is it ergonomics and looks. DFP looks cheap it´s all plastic whereas MOMO Force is italian leather and aluminium swiveling pedals. Find both the pedal ergonomics and the wheel since its larger and thicker superior on the MOMO Force. The DFP is built for 5 year old kids really but you get used to it. It also has a rubber grip which give good grip anyway but not at all the same feel as the MOMO Force.

However both MOMO Force red and DFP has all metal stuff inside so they are much more durable than for example the MOMO Racing force and just about all other wheels out there which use plastic stuff. The DFP pot for the wheel is also superior. You get a bit more precision with the DFP over the MOMO Force red however racing cars is mostly steered with the pedals so it doesn´t have any big influence at all on your driving. Then being able to adjust steering lock is more important.

FFB on both these wheels are really great. Really in a class of it´s own again thank to their superior internals.

As for racing game I must urge you to try out GT Legends. Hope you have a modern computer though since it´s quite demanding. Also try out GTR I have played that for months and I see no stop to it.
 
Who cares if 900 degrees is too much, it's damn fun. I set my DFP to 720 degrees and haven't found a good sim that doesn't play well with it.

DFPs don't last very long though. It's been a year and mine died because the lock limiter came off its track and snapped part of the PCB, now racing games are annoying again :/
 
I race tons of GTR and now GTL as well. Am in leagues and such with tons of hardcore racers and none have got that issue. Maybe you are a bit too violent ;).

What brakes on them is pedals. Especially the rev A pedals on the DFP was not good.

But try running less steering lock. Depending on what sims you run though but you will get more control with less steering lock. You can however say run 24 steering lock and then you don´t need to use all the steering travel anyway apart from when you get off track and need to do tight 180:s ;)
 
Imagining a car without power steering and a relatively low steering ratio, 900 degrees is awesome. Of course all cars are different and I'd imagine anything built after the 60's would have less lock to lock, but it's still fun to play with that much play. ;)

I've been learning to drift in Live For Speed using full 900 degree lock. I'll be honest, it's difficult and I've hurt my self pretty bad (with full force enabled), but damn it's fun.
 
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