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Quick help ppd seems low

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Delemon

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Hello all!

I'm currently running an i7-920 @ 3.4GHz and a 5850 with a mild OC, as well as smp and gpu on my precision M6300 (T9500 Core2Duo and QuadroFX 1600M). I've been getting 8k+ or so from my radeon graphics card on my main ring, and another 2-3k-ish from the laptop (total), but that seems to put my desktop SMP client extremely low.

Both systems are running the v7 beta client, both are running "client-type" "advanced" for GPU and SMP (smp:2 on lappy, smp:8 desktop).

Am I missing something? Is there something I've misconfigured on my main rig SMP slot?

I'm not sure if I have the required 10 SMP units yet to get the bigadv bonus points, but I also haven't seen where to configure v7 to run bigadv (though it seems people are having issues getting bigadv units right now).


 
The 5850 will be taking a full thread from the 920, however that should not affect your folding.......chacnes are your points ar elow due to not having 10 units yet, so i would wait a day or two longer, how long has it been since you started folding ?
 
About 3 weeks, but I had some problems getting it functional at the start, and I didn't start getting decent ppd until v7 beta came out with core 16 for the ati card between my lappy and main rig, I *should* be right close to the 10 SMP units.
 
With the 920, it should have 10 units done within 2 days, i havent used the v7 much at all, it shows estiamted PPD right? What is the current Time per Frame (TPF) for whatever unit the 920 is currently crunching?
 
I'll check it as soon as I get home. Just leaving work now (swing shift sux!).
 
current project is 6974, Base Credit: 552, Estimated PPD: 782.49, Estimated TPF: 10min 09 sec

As a comparison, my gpu client is 11294, Base Credit: 1835, Estimated PPD: 8399.68, Estimated TPF: 3min 08 sec
 
having the 920 set to -smp 8 is a big mistake

With the Radeon hogging a thread, you are loosing more points than the Radeon is producing. Set to -smp 7. While the Client might not be able to do SMP 7 and may auto adjust to smp 6, this should result in a drastic increase in PPD for the 920.
 
I just checked my archived logs, I have a core i5 laptop that is folding a similar WU almost as fast. You are right in saying that the 920 has a problem. Try my suggestion of reducing threads
 
Switched to SMP:6, in v7, you can't set the smp to an odd number of threads. I'll see how that works
 
Ok, getting a far better return on my smp folding than previously. Thanks for the tips! Now the main question is, would SMP:8 and no ATI 5850 folding give more points?
 
Delemon said:
Ok, getting a far better return on my smp folding than previously. Thanks for the tips! Now the main question is, would SMP:8 and no ATI 5850 folding give more points?
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More points, probably not, but the hit you would take will be small. However the amount of power you will save will a fair bit.

Most of us that run SMP rigs will keep CPU boxen, and GPU boxen (a low end CPU and mobo, just enough to drive GPUs).

Mixing them up hurts your ppd/watt. And when folding long term, for most of us, power gets to be a major cost if not done rite.
 
Kendrak said:
More points, probably not, but the hit you would take will be small. However the amount of power you will save will a fair bit.

Most of us that run SMP rigs will keep CPU boxen, and GPU boxen (a low end CPU and mobo, just enough to drive GPUs).

Mixing them up hurts your ppd/watt. And when folding long term, for most of us, power gets to be a major cost if not done rite.
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That's the truth. I've totally given up on GPU folding. For those that have a single box or two it's ok, but if you go big it will eat you up in power costs, not to mention the heat produced. Too much power for the payoff with multiple GPUs, IMO.

Don't get me wrong. There's nothing bad about GPU folding. Fold with what you have, but if you want to go big then seriously consider CPU folding with multi-cpu rigs to conserve power and get better bang for your buck.
 
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Kendrak said:
More points, probably not, but the hit you would take will be small. However the amount of power you will save will a fair bit.

Most of us that run SMP rigs will keep CPU boxen, and GPU boxen (a low end CPU and mobo, just enough to drive GPUs).

Mixing them up hurts your ppd/watt. And when folding long term, for most of us, power gets to be a major cost if not done rite.
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If he runs big adv on the 920, then the return will be significantly higher than the amount lost due to the radeon
 
I have no problem stopping folding on my ATI... it gets LOUD while trying to keep it cool. I'm hoping to upgrade from my 920 to a 2600k in the next couple of weeks, but I'll still have the 920 (likely file server/coou folding).

I'll finish these current work units and then switch to "max-packet-size" "big".

That is the correct option to run bigadv on v7, right?
 
You need that and the -bigadv flag. You can put that in the shortcut to the F@H client, or enter it under aditional client parameters within the config for the F@H client.
 
Ok, picked up my first big one, 6900... Base credit is showing me 8955 points, with an ETA of 2.5 days. Est PPD: 3262.58, Est TPF 39min 31 sec... sound about right?
 
Your not factoring in the bonus points are you?

What program are you using to monitor?
 
I'm using the v7 client, I haven't seen any third party monitoring that works with it yet.

10:19:18:Unit 00:project: 6900 (Run 14, Clone 12, Gen 0)
10:19:18:Unit 00:
10:19:18:Unit 00:Assembly optimizations on if available.
10:19:18:Unit 00:Entering M.D.
10:19:24:Unit 00:Mapping NT from 8 to 8
10:19:28:Unit 00:Completed 0 out of 250000 steps (0%)
10:58:48:Unit 00:Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
11:37:28:Unit 00:Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
12:15:50:Unit 00:Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)
12:54:10:Unit 00:Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps (4%)
13:32:42:Unit 00:Completed 12500 out of 250000 steps (5%)
14:11:12:Unit 00:Completed 15000 out of 250000 steps (6%)
14:49:40:Unit 00:Completed 17500 out of 250000 steps (7%)
15:28:20:Unit 00:Completed 20000 out of 250000 steps (8%)
16:07:01:Unit 00:Completed 22500 out of 250000 steps (9%)
16:46:56:Unit 00:Completed 25000 out of 250000 steps (10%)
17:27:29:Unit 00:Completed 27500 out of 250000 steps (11%)
 
Delemon said:
I'm using the v7 client, I haven't seen any third party monitoring that works with it yet.

10:19:18:Unit 00:project: 6900 (Run 14, Clone 12, Gen 0)
10:19:18:Unit 00:
10:19:18:Unit 00:Assembly optimizations on if available.
10:19:18:Unit 00:Entering M.D.
10:19:24:Unit 00:Mapping NT from 8 to 8
10:19:28:Unit 00:Completed 0 out of 250000 steps (0%)
10:58:48:Unit 00:Completed 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
11:37:28:Unit 00:Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
12:15:50:Unit 00:Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)
12:54:10:Unit 00:Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps (4%)
13:32:42:Unit 00:Completed 12500 out of 250000 steps (5%)
14:11:12:Unit 00:Completed 15000 out of 250000 steps (6%)
14:49:40:Unit 00:Completed 17500 out of 250000 steps (7%)
15:28:20:Unit 00:Completed 20000 out of 250000 steps (8%)
16:07:01:Unit 00:Completed 22500 out of 250000 steps (9%)
16:46:56:Unit 00:Completed 25000 out of 250000 steps (10%)
17:27:29:Unit 00:Completed 27500 out of 250000 steps (11%)
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PPD should end up at 24-25k PPD once you qualify for your bonus points
 
I already have the requisite 10 SMP units in, so I'll post back once this one finishes and I get the final point count!
 
Quick update: my first bigadv finished, 66,768 points, and it was just under 3 days total, so about 22k-ish PPD. If I left it alone the full time, likely would have finished earlier but I had to get in my Borderlands fix, hehe.

Thanks all!
 
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