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Question about OCing

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CoRPS

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I have a few questions about OverClocking.

- What should your incriments be per day while overclocking your Processor?
- Should you up the voltage .05v before, or after the overclock?
- Where can I read more about how to overclock?

Thanks for your help ahead of time.
 
What should your incriments be per day while overclocking your Processor?
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You can do it all at once, assuming your processor has had some break-in time. Not everyone swears by this, and I'm honestly not sure if it is necessary or not, but if your processor is brand new, you might want to loop a CPU intensive application overnight.

You provided us with no system specs, so I can't tell how you'd want to go about overclocking. Let's assume FSB, though. With FSB overclocking, you'll want to figure out the maximum people are getting with a similar hardware configuration and then slowly work your way up to that. So this might include jumps of 5-50MHz depending on your configuration, of course.

Should you up the voltage .05v before, or after the overclock?
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Voltage increases are not necessary unless you experience instability. To test if your system is unstable, run an application called Prime95. Be sure to read the included documentation. Prime95 will make several calculations and test them against known answers. If your CPU returns an incorrect answer, it is not stable. Other stability issues include: Windows rebooting randomly, applications closing, blue screens, errors in memory, and quite a few more. Basically, if things don't work properly, you have a stability issue. One option to increase stability is to increase the VCore. The Vcore is the voltage applied to your CPU. Typically, voltages to CPUs range from 1.4v to 2v. The higher the vcore, the more voltage applied to the cpu, the more power it has to work with and to keep stable.

However, there's a downside to a high vcore. Aside from the probable decrease in lifetime, a high vcore will also cause more heat, which is why you see people going to the extreme to cool down their system while overclocking. Not all increases in vcore will necessarily result in a decreased CPU lifetime, some are very safe. But if you push it too far, and it runs to hot, it will not last long. Keep an eye on your temperatures (accessible via the Bios or a utility included or available for your motherboard. Again, since I don't have your hardware specs, I can't tell you anything specific.

Where can I read more about how to overclock?
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You're in a good place right now. Read around. Find someone with the same or similar hardware to you and see where they stand, and then try to match it or come close. Not all CPUs overclock to the same point, and some not at all, so you won't necessarily match the best.

If you have any questions, just ask back here and I'm sure someone will get back to you pretty quick, myself included.

Good luck!

If you provide some hardware specs, I might be able to help you further.
 
Originally posted by CoRPS
- Where can I read more about how to overclock?
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google.com - just search for overclocking articles, and you should get loads of responses - remember, AMD and Intels OC slightly differently, and have drastically different voltage maximums (for safe operation on air cooling)
 
Alright well I'm making a system now to test out overclocking. Here will be the specs:

Processor: Intel Celeron 2.6GHz
Motherboard: Some cheap Soyo
RAM: 768MB SDRAM
HDD: 60GB Seagate 7200RPM
*note: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=741254
VideoCard: GeForce FX5200

The cooling wont be very good. Well at least not right away, I will need to buy a few fans.

They tell me I can get a Watercooling system for my CPU for $40? Is that right? If so, will that be good enough, or will I need more cooling.
 
anyone that thinks that they can get a good watercooling system for only 40 bucks should be shot(though not literally). watercooling can be very expensive though very preferable. Depending on what brand you get, the prices can range from a minimun of around 150 for a piece of shit and to more that 400 for a custom made one with everything thay out you could ever want. next time think before you ask about watercooling. read around the forum.. there are lots of threads about waterrcooling. I am gonna be building my own system and i am gonna put in a 300 dollar system though everything in it is kick ass. hope you find what you are looking for and goodluck with the overclocking.:)
 
I'm paying 90 dollars for the whole thing. Not bad, but it also gives me a chance to build my own PC. Something I haven't ever done before.
Not to mention, those stats aren't very bad for $90.00. Or for $300 for that matter.

As for watercooling, I was just seeing if someone could point me to a few links, and you did, and I thank you. No flaming please, all that does is cause conflicts.
 
Originally posted by CoRPS
I'm paying 90 dollars for the whole thing. Not bad, but it also gives me a chance to build my own PC. Something I haven't ever done before.
Not to mention, those stats aren't very bad for $90.00. Or for $300 for that matter.

As for watercooling, I was just seeing if someone could point me to a few links, and you did, and I thank you. No flaming please, all that does is cause conflicts.
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for $300 i would shoot myself if i bought that system - i honestly would

$90 on the other hand, is ok to start out with, i guess, but don't expect performance to be great......
 
I don't, I have my PC for performance.
Stats:

AMD 2600+ @ 2.08GHz
AOpen Motherboard (forgot model #)
Kingston HyperX 1024MB PC3200
GeForce FX5700Ultra
60GB Maxtor @ 7200RPM
DVD
CD-R/W

Not to mention, I don't do much hat requires performance, I play Counter-Strike every once in a while, but for the most part I'm on IRC and AIM. And downloading music.
 
JamesTime, I don't have enough money for that stuff, I bought a Soyo mobo, and the Processor for 50 bucks. New. A lot better then spending 100+ on a XP, Not to mention, AMD's run hotter then Celerons, and I wont have many fans in the beginning
 
Originally posted by CoRPS
JamesTime, I don't have enough money for that stuff, I bought a Soyo mobo, and the Processor for 50 bucks. New. A lot better then spending 100+ on a XP, Not to mention, AMD's run hotter then Celerons, and I wont have many fans in the beginning
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ummm, a 2000+ XP only costs $50, and i would seriously doubt the diff in temps between it and a celeron are worth complaining about, if it is really a big deal, you could always undervolt the chip, how do you think they end up with mobile versions?
 
50 dollars for the chip, yes.. But then money for the motherboard.
I had 90 bucks yesterday, bought a Chieftec Dragon case for 30 bucks, and then a CPU + Motherboard package for 50.

If I had saw a better deal with a AMD Chip, I would have got it, but I only had 90 bucks.
 
i think you shoulda waited d00d, 175 bux can buy you an okay case, with 350W pwr supply, mobo, amd xp chip and maybe even 256mb ram,

even if you have a crappy job working at mcdonalds it still would be able to get you a good computer in under 4 days
 
Originally posted by CoRPS
I have a few questions about OverClocking.

- What should your incriments be per day while overclocking your Processor?
- Should you up the voltage .05v before, or after the overclock?
- Where can I read more about how to overclock?

Thanks for your help ahead of time.
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www.tweak3d.net

look at articles, they have several How To OC stuff around.
 
I don't want a good computer. Like I said I'm going to be testing with this one.. Overclocking and so on, if it burns up I dont want it to be a huge loss. you know? I have a good computer, This will be a testing machine for new ideas.
 
You won't have fun overclocking a celeron better off with a Athlon XP 2500+ Barton, Should just save up rather then going for whats cheap. :)
 
Originally posted by Mikesta
You won't have fun overclocking a celeron better off with a Athlon XP 2500+ Barton, Should just save up rather then going for whats cheap. :)
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tell me about it, i bought a $50 socket A mobo, and a shitty 350watt psu, and BOTH of them died within 1yr (f**king 30day warranty didn't help either).......
 
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