Q9450 vs X3350

Mine has been running fine now for almost two weeks 7x24. OC'd to 3.2Ghz / 400FSB. Temps are 30-31c idle, ~34c load. Super cool encoding monster..

BTW, my old box was a 2.6 P4 Northwood, so I'm easy to impress.
 
My X3350 + IP35 Pro (bios 16) setup runs perfectly well.
The only weird thing is the temps that are on the high side. I read that the P35 sensors are not accurate with the new 45nm Penryn.
 
RadXge said:
My X3350 + IP35 Pro (bios 16) setup runs perfectly well.
The only weird thing is the temps that are on the high side. I read that the P35 sensors are not accurate with the new 45nm Penryn.
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Dude I've got a 3350 coming next week to drop into my IP35 pro, glad to see you got it running without any issues. I didn't expect any but you never know since they're still so new. I've read the temps have issues too :(
 
it's not software from intel..it's a program that a private individual made after he realized coretemp had inaccurate information with penryns. and your link isn't working by the way.

ps- intel has not made temp monitoring software for the penryns nor is it expected they will.
 
RadXge thanks for the link. How high have you gotten your chip in the IP35 pro so far?
 
My X3350 is stable at 3.2GHZ.at stock voltage (1.175v)
I will try 3.6GHZ later today.
 
Just adding my experience. Q9450 stable at 3.4. The motherboard auto-manages the voltage, I'm guessing it has bumped it up a little bit. I had been using manual voltage regulations but it locked up on me, so I switched it back over to Auto and it Prime'd all 4 cores for 14 hours with no hiccups. Temps are a little high, it peaked at 60C on one core while encoding video, and idle low temp was 38C. Waiting for a pair of Noctua NF-P12s to drop on the TRUE, hopefully it'll bring it down a bit, otherwise I'll start looking at lapping both the chip and the heatsink.
 
I'm running mine at 3.8Ghz rock solid on a 780i. My voltages are pretty high though. 1.475 in the bios, 1.45 actual. Other voltages are upped too.
 
ahhh..that makes more sense..i was thinking, "interesting, usually people quote their cpu voltage":)
 
Here is my overclock, got a xigmatek 1283 on it. Doesn't seem to be getting very hot to the touch. Hopefully once the AS5 has cured, the temps will drop some.

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sniperchicken said:
Just adding my experience. Q9450 stable at 3.4. The motherboard auto-manages the voltage, I'm guessing it has bumped it up a little bit. I had been using manual voltage regulations but it locked up on me, so I switched it back over to Auto and it Prime'd all 4 cores for 14 hours with no hiccups. Temps are a little high, it peaked at 60C on one core while encoding video, and idle low temp was 38C. Waiting for a pair of Noctua NF-P12s to drop on the TRUE, hopefully it'll bring it down a bit, otherwise I'll start looking at lapping both the chip and the heatsink.
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That seems pretty high to me for temps. You're using Coretemp, I assume? With my Q6700 overclocked to 3.65GHz on my EVGA 680i it would only peak into the 60c arena with the small FFT torture test. And I've been using the humble Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, which I picked up on the egg a few months ago for $22 with free shipping. Is your TRUE fanless right now? I've got a TRUE coming in, though, with a high CFM fan. I'm hoping my temps will be even lower. Plus I have the 780i now with updated BIOS. Let me know if your temps go down with a fan. I know the 45nm is supposed to be cooler and more power effecient. Do you have any kind of wattage meter on your system? I have noticed a power draw increase on my overall system voltage meter when heavily overclocked on my 65nm processor.
 
TheZanderMan said:
That seems pretty high to me for temps. You're using Coretemp, I assume? With my Q6700 overclocked to 3.65GHz on my EVGA 680i it would only peak into the 60c arena with the small FFT torture test. And I've been using the humble Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, which I picked up on the egg a few months ago for $22 with free shipping. Is your TRUE fanless right now? I've got a TRUE coming in, though, with a high CFM fan. I'm hoping my temps will be even lower. Plus I have the 780i now with updated BIOS. Let me know if your temps go down with a fan. I know the 45nm is supposed to be cooler and more power effecient. Do you have any kind of wattage meter on your system? I have noticed a power draw increase on my overall system voltage meter when heavily overclocked on my 65nm processor.
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It's got two Yate Loon 12SL-12s on it one on each side, if the Noctuas don't bring it down I'll be lapping both the TRUE and the Q9450. Measuring with RealTemp. Coretemp on the other hand is saying it's at almost 70C.

No I don't have any wattage meters or anything.
 
run everest and check out your DDR3 speed & latencies

Known issue with 790i and DDR3, scores are either great or worse than ddr2 800
 
X3350 overclocking results:
1) 3.2GHZ ( 8 * 400) 10 hours ORTHOS stable at 1.195v
2) 3.6GHZ (9 * 450) 10 hours ORTHOS stable at 1.285v

BTW, 450MHZ FSB put too much pressure on the mb for my taste.
The X3350's low multiplier is really a pain...
I think 3.4GHZ may be the sweet spot for daily use.

FYI, the max voltage these chips can take is 1.3625V according to Intel's specs sheets, and 1.25V according to the retail box.
 
RadXge said:
X3350 overclocking results:
1) 3.2GHZ ( 8 * 400) 10 hours ORTHOS stable at 1.195v
2) 3.6GHZ (9 * 450) 10 hours ORTHOS stable at 1.285v

BTW, 450MHZ FSB put too much pressure on the mb for my taste.
The X3350's low multiplier is really a pain...
I think 3.4GHZ may be the sweet spot for daily use.

FYI, the max voltage these chips can take is 1.3625V according to Intel's specs sheets, and 1.25V according to the retail box.
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What kind of pressure are you talking about? The pwm getting too hot or it required too much voltage on some components for your liking?
 
3.4 is the sweet spot?

I think i can live with that.

I'm getting my HSF tomorrow, so I should be starting up my OC trials as well.

Hopefully everything will go smoothly and I won't have too much of a headache getting 3.4 or better. I'd ideally like to hit 3.6. But we'll see.


Thanks everyone for posting your results. I'll have more questions when i start :)
 
What kind of pressure are you talking about? The pwm getting too hot or it required too much voltage on some components for your liking?
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Well, the board is designed to run at a FSB of 333MHZ and 450MHZ is aggressive.
Pushing hardware to the extreme on a daily basis is not an approach I am willing to take. IMO, the performance increase does not worth the additional risk (stability or hardware failure).
3.4GHZ should provide great performance and long-term stability.
 
RadXge said:
Well, the board is designed to run at a FSB of 333MHZ and 450MHZ is aggressive.
Pushing hardware to the extreme on a daily basis is not an approach I am willing to take. IMO, the performance increase does not worth the additional risk (stability or hardware failure).
3.4GHZ should provide great performance and long-term stability.
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All boards are not created equal.
 
toddw said:
All boards are not created equal.
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Yeah they're really not, and while i respect his decision to not push it harder than he thinks appropriate, I think with proper cooling the IP35 pro is geared to run 450+. Maybe some of the lower end boards can't handle a quad at high fsb, and I didn't buy one of those for a reason. :)
 
Toddw...i can't hit that FSB with that voltage :(

Ok, it looks like 3.4 at 1.3v is where I need to stop.

I might need to re-do the AS5 and HSF install. But I also have another chip I can try :p Just time consuming :p
 
3.6 is cakewalk on the IP35 Pro, going higher is when it starts to take some effort. 3.8 is attainable but would be really stressing it on a 1:1 mem ratio as it seems the voltages go up exponentially
 
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