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PSU Suggestions

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CrazyCurl

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Asus P4C800-E
3.00 GHZ Intel Pentium Northwood
2 75 gig raptor 10000 rpm in raid 0
1 120 gig WD 8mb cache
BFG 6800 Ultra OC AGP
1 gig corsair twinx CMX512-3200LL
Dell 2405FPW monitor
Audigy Gamer

Got 2 USB Digital Gamepads, Microsoft sidewinder forcefeedback pro, USB Mouse and keyboard

What would you recommend for a good PSU for this power hungry beast? My current one is a antec truepower 430. The 2405FPW and BFG are on the way. Just looking for a good PSU.
 
try the true430. if you notice random stability problems, get back to us ;)
 
That 6800 Ultra will eat up the 20A/26A (depending on revision) pretty quickly... Perhaps put a new PSU into the budget. The new TruePower II PSUs look pretty good for the money, but the high-end TruePower II models approach the Neopower in pricing. And the Neopower is the same price as the TruePower II 550W.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-929&depa=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-924&depa=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-931&depa=0

The Seasonic S12-500 is a little bit more money, but they're great PSUs.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-151-024&depa=0
 
With only the one 6800 Ultra, the CPU and the drives, I'm thinking there's only about a 18A max load on the 12V rail.

Like Eclipse said: Report back AFTER there's problems... if any.
 
_Korruption_ said:
That 6800 Ultra will eat up the 20A/26A (depending on revision) pretty quickly... Perhaps put a new PSU into the budget. The new TruePower II PSUs look pretty good for the money, but the high-end TruePower II models approach the Neopower in pricing. And the Neopower is the same price as the TruePower II 550W.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-929&depa=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-924&depa=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-931&depa=0

The Seasonic S12-500 is a little bit more money, but they're great PSUs.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-151-024&depa=0
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Sorry Dude, but every PSU you mentioned (except the Antec Neopower) are of the ATX2.0 variety. With that Asus P4C800-E and the BFG 6800 Ultra OC AGP he should probably look at one of the OCZ Powerstream 520ADJ which has the 20+4 pin ATX connector for the ultimate in compatability. SLCentral has a good review here:http://www.slcentral.com/ocz-powerstream-520adj-power-supply/page4.php With 33amps on the +12v rail CrazyCurl should be good to go. And at $125 at newegg, it won't kill him to throw it in.
Here http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-152&depa=0
 
Renegade87 said:
Sorry Dude, but every PSU you mentioned (except the Antec Neopower) are of the ATX2.0 variety. With that Asus P4C800-E and the BFG 6800 Ultra OC AGP he should probably look at one of the OCZ Powerstream 520ADJ which has the 20+4 pin ATX connector for the ultimate in compatability. SLCentral has a good review here:http://www.slcentral.com/ocz-powerstream-520adj-power-supply/page4.php With 33amps on the +12v rail CrazyCurl should be good to go. And at $125 at newegg, it won't kill him to throw it in.
Here http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-152&depa=0
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Negative. The Neopower is ATX12V v2.0.

Why would he want a v1.3 PSU? You're not forced to use all 24-pins (the extra 4-pins will either slip off or run through an adapter), so why wouldn't it work? Having two +12V rails is a good thing last time I checked, the first rail would power the CPU and board, and the second rail would power all molex connections, including that beefy 6800 Ultra. Getting a v1.3 Hybrid may be a good idea for those systems drawing primarily from the +5V line (like mine), but for most new builds, a v2.0 PSU is a good foundation to build on.

Anyways, that OCZ Powerstream 520W is a waste, all that extra 100W is primarily on the +5V line, where you don't really need it. The 420W model has the most power where it matters, and it is significantly cheaper.

I don't think my logic is flawed. ;)
 
The overlap is ATX12V1.3 == ATX 2.03. Right?

We had almost an all out flame war over this on another forum because a power supply I was using was ATX 2.03 but didn't have a 24-pin connector. This guy kept saying it was NOT ATX 2.03 because of the lack of 24-pin connector, but in reality, he was thinking of the ATX12V standard. :p

Concerning that 520ADJ: I'm working on the edit for that review right now. In a nutshell I'm going to say, it IS a good power supply. It DOES supply a lot of good, clean power for someone with an ATX12V2.0 setup and if you were to tell me you already had one, I wouldn't call you a fool. But like _Korruption_ stated: All of it's extra juice is on the 5V rail and if you were to try to use that PSU in a system that only needed an ATX12V1.3 or ATX2.0+ system, your voltages will go absolutely bonkers.... by design! I'd say go with the 420ADJ if going with a PowerStream and it works well on either 5V or 12V heavy systems.
 
_Korruption_ said:
Negative. The Neopower is ATX12V v2.0.

Why would he want a v1.3 PSU? You're not forced to use all 24-pins (the extra 4-pins will either slip off or run through an adapter), so why wouldn't it work? Having two +12V rails is a good thing last time I checked, the first rail would power the CPU and board, and the second rail would power all molex connections, including that beefy 6800 Ultra. Getting a v1.3 Hybrid may be a good idea for those systems drawing primarily from the +5V line (like mine), but for most new builds, a v2.0 PSU is a good foundation to build on.

Anyways, that OCZ Powerstream 520W is a waste, all that extra 100W is primarily on the +5V line, where you don't really need it. The 420W model has the most power where it matters, and it is significantly cheaper.

I don't think my logic is flawed. ;)
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I stand corrected, the Neopower is ATX2.0. It's been so long since I looked at it I thought it was an ATX1.3!

I suggested the OCZ Powerstream 520ADJ because of the upwards compatability, OCZ reputation, and high power on ALL the rails. Particularly the +12v. Unfortunately, I didn't see that only the only the 600ADJ is actually ATX2.0 My bad. I guess I should've looked at the manufacturers (OCZ) specs first (as I usually do) instead of just checking what newegg had on it.

I plead severe caffine deprivation. :eek:
 
Renegade87 said:
I suggested the OCZ Powerstream 520ADJ because of the upwards compatability, OCZ reputation, and high power on ALL the rails. Particularly the +12v.
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- The 420W model has the same "upwards compatibility" you're talking about.

- High power on all the rails? How about extra power you're likely never going to use? The +12V is what matters the most these days, so when OCZ is beefing up the +5V (and the +12V to a lesser extent) to get a higher model number, they're just out to make money.
 
100 or so bucks to lay out on a Power supply is a drop in the bucket, but if my 430 true power could handle it that would be great but definitely not counting on it. Atleast i got some good suggestions to work with if it does not.

Thanks guys.
 
_Korruption_ said:
- High power on all the rails? How about extra power you're likely never going to use? The +12V is what matters the most these days, so when OCZ is beefing up the +5V (and the +12V to a lesser extent) to get a higher model number, they're just out to make money.
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actually, my ocz powerstream420 has 30a on both the 5v and 12v rail.. whereas the true430 that i used to use had 36a/20a. i wouldn't say that ocz is pumping the 5v rail for higher wattage figures, but instead, is splitting the power quite well. ;)
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
actually, my ocz powerstream420 has 30a on both the 5v and 12v rail.. whereas the true430 that i used to use had 36a/20a. i wouldn't say that ocz is pumping the 5v rail for higher wattage figures, but instead, is splitting the power quite well. ;)
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Korruption wasn't saying anything negative about the 420W. In fact, him and I were agreeing that the 420ADJ is a BETTER choice then the 520ADJ. We were talking about the 520ADJ when Korruption stated that OCZ is pumping the 5V rail for higher wattage figures. Not the 420ADJ.
 
_Korruption_ said:
Anyways, that OCZ Powerstream 520W is a waste, all that extra 100W is primarily on the +5V line, where you don't really need it.
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Just curious, comparing the specs on the following 2 PSU's, I guess you'd come to the same conclusion on the PCP&C Turbo Cool 510 ?

OCZ Powerstream 520W =+3.3V(28A), +5V(40A), +12V(33A)

PCP&C Turbo Cool 510 = +3.3V(30A), +5V(40A), +12V(34A/38A)
 
Renegade87 said:
Just curious, comparing the specs on the following 2 PSU's, I guess you'd come to the same conclusion on the PCP&C Turbo Cool 510 ?

OCZ Powerstream 520W =+3.3V(28A), +5V(40A), +12V(33A)

PCP&C Turbo Cool 510 = +3.3V(30A), +5V(40A), +12V(34A/38A)
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The Turbo Cool 510 is by itself in the model range, is it not? The Powerstream 520W is a step-up from the 420W, which IMO is not worth the money. That was my original point.
 
Renegade87 said:
Just curious, comparing the specs on the following 2 PSU's, I guess you'd come to the same conclusion on the PCP&C Turbo Cool 510 ?

OCZ Powerstream 520W =+3.3V(28A), +5V(40A), +12V(33A)

PCP&C Turbo Cool 510 = +3.3V(30A), +5V(40A), +12V(34A/38A)
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Boy.. That's rather an apple to pickled pigs feet comparison. :rolleyes:

Again, we we're saying the 520ADJ was a waste compared to the 420ADJ.

It's not uncommon to see a power supply have more juice on the 5V then on the 12V. THAT IS NOT THE POINT. The point is you're paying $50 more for the 520ADJ over the 420ADJ and all you're getting is 2A on the 12V.

I would NOT come to the same conclusion about the PCP&C Turbo-Cool 510 because, if compared to the Turbo-Cool 425, it has ZERO additional available on the 5V and 14A more available on the 12V. So you're actually getting something for the additional $50 you'd pay for a 510 over a 425.
 
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