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PSU good enough?

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Skas730

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Allright, i just picked up this 500W PSU and im making sure that it has enough power to power a 7900GTO, E6400, 2 gigs of Corsair dddr2 800 RAM, 160 Gig sata drive, dvd burner/reader and such, Case fans and lights, Asus P5B-E. I think thats it. I'm not sure why it wouldnt power it all but if not im going to be sad. Can you all please check on this for me.

https://shop2.outpost.com/product/4587977?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
 
With that config the V-series Ultra PSU is not quite enough. Furthermore, it is manufactured by a questionable PSU manufacturer whose quality control isn't particularly good. I personally wouldn't trust that PSU on anything faster than 1.5GHz with onboard graphics.
 
Thats rediculous....not really....,but...i have allready spent more than i think i wanted to on my componants(ents :confused: ) I figured this has 500W of power, why wouldnt it power it just like any of the other 500W PSU's?
 
Skas730 said:
Thats rediculous....not really....,but...i have allready spent more than i think i wanted to on my componants(ents :confused: ) I figured this has 500W of power, why wouldnt it power it just like any of the other 500W PSU's?
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Not all "500W" PSU's are created equal. With your config, that particular PSU might burn out (or blow up) in a matter of weeks. :eek: You get what you pay for, in this case. For all I know that particular "500W" PSU might as well be the equivalent of a 230W PSU.
 
Skas730 said:
But then again couldn't it function just like any other 500W PSU?
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Not really. When that PSU burns out (or blows up), it will likely fry most of your other components with it. :( The innards of that PSU are likely of unacceptably poor quality on many key parts.
 
I'm sorry for all of the questions and such but im somewhat new to all of this. If the PSU works for a week, why will it then blow up? does it loose power over time? Secondly, could you run dual powersupplys? Run one to your Videocard only and the the other to the rest of your componants, and power them on from the switches on the back?
 
Skas730 said:
I'm sorry for all of the questions and such but im somewhat new to all of this. If the PSU works for a week, why will it then blow up? does it loose power over time? Secondly, could you run dual powersupplys? Run one to your Videocard only and the the other to the rest of your componants, and power them on from the switches on the back?
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As I said, it could very well burn out your CPU, graphics card, memory and hard drive along with the PSU, resulting in a $2500 to $3000 loss.
 
Skas730 said:
Thats rediculous....not really....,but...i have allready spent more than i think i wanted to on my componants(ents :confused: ) I figured this has 500W of power, why wouldnt it power it just like any of the other 500W PSU's?
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They give these junkers away for free after rebate, so what do you expect from a free, give-away PSU?
 
So you guys would recommend what? I really dont want to spend any more than I HAVE to...like i said, i've spent to much allready. (Edit) One more thing, will it hurt to try out the 500W PSU or should i just not even mess with it? Will it blow up the first week or so? If its safe id like to use it untill i get an upgrade, or i can get it through to my dad that that one wont be enough.
 
Skas730 said:
So you guys would recommend what? I really dont want to spend any more than I HAVE to...like i said, i've spent to much allready. (Edit) One more thing, will it hurt to try out the 500W PSU or should i just not even mess with it? Will it blow up the first week or so? If its safe id like to use it untill i get an upgrade, or i can get it through to my dad that that one wont be enough.
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Read my reply several posts back. Not all "500W" units are created equal - yet you made it look like every single 500W unit is equal to each other. (As in you got sucked into the 500W hype, rather than concentrating on the actual quality of the PSU.) A given 500W unit can perform much worse than another company's 300W unit.
 
Yes, Ive got this now. Is V series a bad company? I read reviews on it and people had really liked theirs and said they lasted a long time and were reliable. I just need to know which one to get. I finally got all of my stuff about to be ordered. I just dont want it to get here and not be able to run it.
 
Skas730 said:
Yes, Ive got this now. Is V series a bad company? I read reviews on it and people had really liked theirs and said they lasted a long time and were reliable. I just need to know which one to get. I finally got all of my stuff about to be ordered. I just dont want it to get here and not be able to run it.
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Actually, you've read "reviews" on those people who owned that series of PSUs that are powering rigs with far lesser specs than your particular setup. (As in, most of those reviewers have 5-year-old systems with CPU's slower than 1GHz and graphics cards which perform slower than even an x300SE.) None of the reviews that you read were written by anyone who has anywhere near as high-end of a configuration as yours.
 
So, just spend the money....and then I wont regret it later. If thats the case im just going to do it i guess. Taking suggestions.
 
Skas730 said:
could you run dual powersupplys? Run one to your Videocard only and the the other to the rest of your componants, and power them on from the switches on the back?
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You could do that, if you didn't mind leaving the 2nd one sitting outside the PC case and managing the wires. But you don't want to run two low-quality power supplies instead of one low-quality power supply.

By running two iffy PSUs, you'd double the (already too high) chances of having some sort of incident that damages other parts.
 
Look at it this way: You put a lot of care and work into choosing quality parts for the rest of your build, do you really want to risk frying all of them to save $50 bucks on a PSU?

Look on Dave's list of recommended PSU's and pick one from that list. It won't just not fry your system, it will help you get the most out of it.

JaYp146 said:
It's not really taht bad of a PSU ... for a budget system.
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If you read that review, you'll see that Jonny says it's a decent choice for an old Athlon XP system. 18A on the 12V rail doesn't cut it anymore.
 
JaYp146 said:
It's not really taht bad of a PSU ...

http://www.jonnyguru.com/PSU/V-Series/V-Series.html

:confused:
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Yes it is!
THE GOOD:

Very inexpensive.
More usable power than most power supplies in it's price range.
THE BAD:

No active PFC.
The efficiency wasn't very good on the 350W or 400W.
Ugly cables. How about some sleeving, guys?
Power supplies pretty much failed the High 5V crossload test.
THE MEDIOCRE:

Decent efficiency on the 500W.
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Very inexpensive = yes it is free!

More usable power than most power supplies in it's price range = true, as there are very few free PSU's!

It is free & could be used as a replacement in a lowend Dell. :rolleyes:
 
Allright, will the first 500W PSU on his list run my components? If not, which one will. If im going to spend money i might as well not blow it up. Which one is recommended by you guys.....like i said, im just learning. And can you give me a direct link to the best place to buy it if possible. I wont have verry long in the morning and im gonig to bed right now. Help tonight is really appreciated. Thanks again all. :)
 
E4g1e said:
...t is manufactured by a questionable PSU manufacturer whose quality control isn't particularly good.
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Incorrect.

The V-Series are manufactured by Wintech.

The X-Connects were manufacutered by Youngyear.

Although a V-Series 500W isn't nearly as good as an X-Finity 500W, it's better than most in it's price range and has the proper circuit protection (overload and thermal) to prevent damage to the PC.

That said, you ARE powering a 7900. You might want to up the budget a tad. The X-Finity 500W is $24.99 after MIR and free freight at ZZF:

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=373060&prodlist=froogle
 
jonnyGURU said:
Incorrect.

The V-Series are manufactured by Wintech.

The X-Connects were manufacutered by Youngyear.

Although a V-Series 500W isn't nearly as good as an X-Finity 500W, it's better than most in it's price range and has the proper circuit protection (overload and thermal) to prevent damage to the PC.

That said, you ARE powering a 7900. You might want to up the budget a tad.
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That be true, as I have never seen a list of free PSU's! :p

Sorry Jonny, but I just had, too! ;)
 
davidhammock200 said:
That be true, as I have never seen a list of free PSU's! :p

Sorry Jonny, but I just had, too! ;)
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Hey.. They weren't free when I reviewed them! :D

I never, ever, ever count the money NOT in my hand after a rebate. EVER!!!
 
So johnny...you would recomend the Ultra x infinity 500W PSU. that will power my system and wont crash when gaming and have the right ammount of connectors and power? If so the 25$ is something im loving. If not....i need a direct link of one that will work out for me before i leave for school in the morning. Thanks again all. G'Nite
 
jonnyGURU said:
Incorrect.

The V-Series are manufactured by Wintech.

The X-Connects were manufacutered by Youngyear.

Although a V-Series 500W isn't nearly as good as an X-Finity 500W, it's better than most in it's price range and has the proper circuit protection (overload and thermal) to prevent damage to the PC.

That said, you ARE powering a 7900. You might want to up the budget a tad. The X-Finity 500W is $24.99 after MIR and free freight at ZZF:

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=373060&prodlist=froogle
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Okay, I was dissing a cheap product without actually looking at the test results or having hands-on experience with it... :eek:

In that case, then my recommendation to spend a bit more for a PSU still stands, since that V-Series won't quite cut the mustard for a dual-core CPU and a relatively high-end GPU. It will do quite well on a Sempron system with something like an x1300 or a GeForce 7300 series GPU (or, as you said, an older Socket A system with a decent graphics card).

Oh, by the way, that 500W V-Series PSU has 28A, not 18A, on the +12V rail.
 
I found 2 other powersupplies last night. Once was a 500W Aspire and i cant remember the other one nor can i like the 2 because my school is stupid and has newegg blocked.....(why im not quite sure) I'm going to place my order about 8 tonight and have everything 3 day shipped so it will be in by saturday and i can start on it. When i get home ill give you a link to the 2 other PSU's and you can check them out and see what you think.
 
E4g1e said:
In that case, then my recommendation to spend a bit more for a PSU still stands....
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That I can not argue with.

Skas730 said:
I found 2 other powersupplies last night. Once was a 500W Aspire and i cant remember the other one nor can i like the 2 because my school is stupid and has newegg blocked
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NO! That OEM that E4g1e was talking about. THEY make that Aspire. And if you can't even remember the other one, then it couldn't have been that good.

Just get the X-Finity. Better PSU, free freight, and only $25 after rebate.
 
jonnyGURU said:
That I can not argue with.



NO! That OEM that E4g1e was talking about. THEY make that Aspire. And if you can't even remember the other one, then it couldn't have been that good.

Just get the X-Finity. Better PSU, free freight, and only $25 after rebate.
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Take Jonny's advice, remember if he is wrong you can haunt him forever!

j/k, I'm sure it will work fine. ;)
 
Well, it wasnt an Apevia 600W. The other was an Apex which looked like it matched my case somewhat. Case and now that ive looked again....it doesnt seem to. But, i will take johnnys advice. Seems like a good supply and he doesnt seem to be the kind to be wrong ever.....or at least 99% of the time. ;)



ps....whats OEM mean?
 
Ok... Apex? You are spinning backwards faster than a heroine addict in a Nissan out in the desert with the transmission stuck in reverse.

The Apex is even worse than the Aspire.
 
Skas730 said:
Well, it wasnt an Apevia 600W. The other was an Apex which looked like it matched my case somewhat. Case and now that ive looked again....it doesnt seem to. But, i will take johnnys advice. Seems like a good supply and he doesnt seem to be the kind to be wrong ever.....or at least 99% of the time. ;)

s....whats OEM mean?
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Stop guessing & either get Jonny's recommendation or choose one from the PSU Guide.

PSU Guide: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1000883
 
I'm not guessing. I said I am going with Johnnys suggestion. I was just pointing out the ones that i had mentioned earlier in the day. still dont know what OEM means
 
Skas730 said:
I'm not guessing. I said I am going with Johnnys suggestion. I was just pointing out the ones that i had mentioned earlier in the day. still dont know what OEM means
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Original Equipment Manufacturer ;)
 
Skas730 said:
Thanks.....I'm allways wondering what that means :)
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Two useages.

(1) the actual manufacturer, such as Seasonic, ToPower or CTW

This definition is usualy applied when the seller just "rebadges" an existing unit without making changes,
such as Rosewill or A-Open.

(2) the actual design house, such as PC P&C, Antec or Corsair

This definition is usualy applied when the seller has their own custom design & sub-contracts the actual manufacture
 
davidhammock200 said:
Two useages.

(1) the actual manufacturer, such as Seasonic, ToPower or CTW
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CTW? Children's Television Workshop?

What PSU is that? The Sesame Street 600W?
 
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