PSP and Piracy

[rcf1987]

It hasn't been brought up yet, I don't think, but since the games for PSP are on a disk won't it make them very easy to pirate even though they are on Blu-ray discs and are very small and I don't think there is anything that can burn Blu-rays it will probally be a matter of time before burned games and PSP mod chips start appearing. I know GBA you could buy flash rom and put games on that. What do you think? No flaming PLZ.

 

[dariob]

It hasn't been brought up yet, I don't think, but since the games for PSP are on a disk won't it make them very easy to pirate even though they are on Blu-ray discs and are very small and I don't think there is anything that can burn Blu-rays it will probally be a matter of time before burned games and PSP mod chips start appearing. I know GBA you could buy flash rom and put games on that. What do you think? No flaming PLZ.

I doubt it will be a big issue in the US. I mean, there are no consumer blu-ray burners and the discs are in a small proprietary case. On that note, who the hell pirates Gamecube games? Its kinda like the same thing. Maybe in Asia markets will pop up with pirated games, but that is generally the case anyway.

 

[bealzz]

PSP doesnt use blu-ray. secondly, give it time, while all games are copy protected it usally doesnt take long for them to cook something up

 

[rcf1987]

PSP doesnt use blu-ray

I'm pretty sure it does

 

[GlobalFear]

Earlier stated psp specs stated that you could burn movies to these disks for playback on the psp.

PSP uses UMDs.

 

[Triath]

PSP also adopts a newly developed proprietary, compact, but high-capacity optical disc, Universal Media Disc (UMD(TM)), as its storage medium. UMD is the next-generation compact storage media, only 60mm in diameter but can store up to 1.8GB of digital data -- more than three times the data held on a CD-ROM. A broad range of digital entertainment content such as high quality 3D games, music, movies, video clips and other programs can be distributed on UMD. To protect this content, a robust copyright protection system has been developed for UMD, which utilizes a combination of a unique disc ID, 128 bit AES encryption keys for the media, and individual ID for each PSP hardware unit.

It's not Blu-Ray.

 

[Terpfen]

I'm pretty sure it does

PS3 will use Blu-Ray. PSP uses UMD, which is a kind of successor/variation of the Mini-Disc. The UMD is a closed format--there won't be any UMD-RW drives or anything like that. The chance of piracy is exactly zero. The only UMD reader in existence is the PSP's drive, and there's no way to rip UMDs. Even assuming the firmware could be hacked to somehow allow the PSP to write UMD contents to 2GB memory sticks, you would still need the UMD game/movie, and given that the UMD's max storage space is 1.8GB, you'd need to shell out in the triple digits for a 2GB Memory Stick.

The entire exercise is therefore impossible and fruitless, and piracy will not happen, period.

 

[Blue Fox]

The only way that this could be possible is if Sony were to release a UMD writer. Even then, the games are probably loaded with some soft of copy protection. It might take a long time to break the copy protection.

 

[BioPort]

PS3 will use Blu-Ray. PSP uses UMD, which is a kind of successor/variation of the Mini-Disc. The UMD is a closed format--there won't be any UMD-RW drives or anything like that. The chance of piracy is exactly zero. The only UMD reader in existence is the PSP's drive, and there's no way to rip UMDs. Even assuming the firmware could be hacked to somehow allow the PSP to write UMD contents to 2GB memory sticks, you would still need the UMD game/movie, and given that the UMD's max storage space is 1.8GB, you'd need to shell out in the triple digits for a 2GB Memory Stick.

The entire exercise is therefore impossible and fruitless, and piracy will not happen, period.

actually, youre wrong. piracy WILL happen. it has happened on every hardware platform created to date.

what will happen is someone will create an emulator, find a way to create an image of a UMD, and BAM! you have rampant PSP piracy. its not as likely that pirated games will be playable on the actual PSP unit... but then again it does have a wifi card. which means you could stream an image to your psp (just like a gamecube) using a modchip or a hack of some kind.

nothing is impossible. if people want to steal software, they will find a way.

 

[Xrave]

There will be piracy, it's just it may not be as much piracy as other platforms.

 

[Rehevkor]

You're all forgetting the Memory Stick Pro DUO that the PSP supports, which goes up to 1gb and maybe 2gb, I'm not sure.

Personally, I'm just hoping for an NES and/or SNES emulator for the system. That would rule

 

[obyj34]

You're all forgetting the Memory Stick Pro DUO that the PSP supports, which goes up to 1gb and maybe 2gb, I'm not sure.

Personally, I'm just hoping for an NES and/or SNES emulator for the system. That would rule

I really don't think Sony will care much if people are buying thier $200+ memory sticks to pirate a $30 (50?) game.

 

[Syphon Filter]

for those of you who believe there will be no piracy...well lets wait and see. I think there will be, as stated just about every platform going has some form of piracy related to it. It is inebitable.

 

[Jeriko_Cherry]

I really don't think Sony will care much if people are buying thier $200+ memory sticks to pirate a $30 (50?) game.

they will when everyone is putting more than one game on a stick. You can store the games on your HDD and then just copy the ones you want to play to the stick. $200 for every P2P game ever made? not a bad deal, huh?

 

[MurphNutz]

You just keep your game images stored on your computer and transfer the one you want to your memory stick. $ of 1 memory stick < $ of 10 - XXX number of games.

Piracy on this system might not be practical, but I wouldn't say impossible.

 

[Blue Fox]

for those of you who believe there will be no piracy...well lets wait and see. I think there will be, as stated just about every platform going has some form of piracy related to it. It is inebitable.

I don't think that there are any functional mod chips for the game cube, so that would make it the only one...sony is bound to release a umd writer because its 'universal' afterall...

 

[Terpfen]

actually, youre wrong. piracy WILL happen. it has happened on every hardware platform created to date.

Yes, it's happened on every platform created to date, but not to the same degree. PSP is unique in that it's using a standard with no access except at retail. There's no first- or third-party UMD reader--good luck building those. There's no way to read UMD content onto a Memory Stick, and assuming there was, the PSP is programmed to read games from the UMD, not the Memory Stick, and it's not simply a matter of replicating the game's directory structure--this is like trying to pirate a PS2 game via the memory card slot. I would be very, very surprised if PSP piracy was possible.

 

[heatsinker]

I don't think that there are any functional mod chips for the game cube, so that would make it the only one...sony is bound to release a umd writer because its 'universal' afterall...

You guys are definitely not well informed about the modding scene then. The Viper modchip for the Gamecube has been out for a few months and it is the first real modchip for the Cube. It works great except for the fact that the Gamecube doesn't have a large enough tray to play full sized DVDs (mini-DVDs don't work too good), so you'll either have to mod the case or take off the top part completely. I'm actually about to install a Viper mod for a customer in a few days, so that'll be an interesting experience to say the least.

 

[Blue Fox]

News to me...you could always get the Panasonic version of the GC with the full cd tray if mini-dvds don't work. It still doesn't sound like a very practical solution having to physically mod the outside of the GC.

 

[ludachaz]

the psp does have usb 2.0 hook up an external hard drive, get hacked firmware and copy the games to the hard drive much like the xbox

 

[heatsinker]

News to me...you could always get the Panasonic version of the GC with the full cd tray if mini-dvds don't work. It still doesn't sound like a very practical solution having to physically mod the outside of the GC.

Some companies are already hard at work on a full size replacement tray that you can buy for the GC. Much like the fliptop cases for the PS2, but not quite as useless.

 

[JonnyK]

you can play games off of the memory stick already, i'm pretty sure sony said that, now all hackers have to do is rip games onto the stick, or onto a hard drive and get it to play through the USB cord. i think that would work fine once someone figures out how it works. snes emulator for psp that i can play off of my memory stick would make me SOOOO happy, teeheehee, and if they do that...nothing's stoping them from making a GBA emulator, that might take a chunk of nintendo change if a lot of ppl find out about it. hell, i bet the psp could run a ds emulator, other than the two screen thing.

 

[CreamySoupUSA]

hell, i bet the psp could run a ds emulator, other than the two screen thing.

Hehe, that part will get ya.

 

[pkScary]

plus touchscreen capability, microphone input, and the probability that the PSP is probably too weak to emulate it

 

[WickedAngel]

plus touchscreen capability, microphone input, and the probability that the PSP is probably too weak to emulate it

The DS is N64 quality graphics on a smaller screen. The PSP is slightly stronger than the PS2 (Which already has N64 emulators running).

The control methods will render it impossible, but it isn't because the PSP is too weak.

 

[saintrobyn]

I don't think that there are any functional mod chips for the game cube, so that would make it the only one...sony is bound to release a umd writer because its 'universal' afterall...

The ViperGC is aout for the Gamecube and already being used to pirate games. There are no systems that are safe from piracy. Give people enough time and they can circumvent anything.

 

[TechHead]

The ViperGC is aout for the Gamecube and already being used to pirate games. There are no systems that are safe from piracy. Give people enough time and they can circumvent anything.

Alright, enough discussion.