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PS3 system restore?

Technoob said:
1. What's so different? How about the fact that there are three revisions that we know of alone dealing with backward compatibility. You can look that up very easily.

2. I never said they did or should make different firmware udpates. I said that demonstrably there are problems with newer firmwares and older systems. It's not just the official ps3 forums that reflect this. All of the troubleshooter sites, fixya, llama forums...anywhere people are talking about ps3 troubleshooting you'll see these issues. Like any hardware or software issue that you ever see on the internet, there are people who flat out don't believe, or think the people who are experiencing the issue are responsible, and like always, the fact that *you* don't have this problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Again, it's very telling how much of a rorschach test a thread like this is.
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Is anyone else reading this? I mean seriously.
 
Dallows said:
Is anyone else reading this? I mean seriously.
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Funny how the two people who are freaking out the most about this are two of the biggest dyed in the wool sony fanboys on these forums.

Total coincidence though.
 
Technoob said:
I thought you left? Every single firmware update has caused some issues, sometimes much more than others. If you've read the forums or followed the ps3 modding scene especially, you'd know that. You have zero point. Some Jasper xbox 360s still rrod, they're just much less likely to than the older pieces of garbage. Just because a jasper can rrod too doesn't mean old ones aren't more likely to...and just because a 40 gigger can brick with firmware doesn't mean an original isn't more likely to either....get it? Want to keep going though? You're doing a great job of failing so far.
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Actually you are spreading BS here because you said that the newer firmwares are designed for the newer models and they are causing problems for the older models.

The fact is some people will get some problems with a firmware update, it doesn't matter whether it is the newer model or an older one. There are also far a lot more people who don't have any problem with a firmware update even on their older model PS3. Just because you had a bad luck, you don't need to make things up or spread FUD.
 
Technoob said:
Funny how the two people who are freaking out the most about this are two of the biggest dyed in the wool sony fanboys on these forums.

Total coincidence though.
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That was bound to happen. I'm not "freaking out." The only thing is this thread that upsets me is your insanity.

But whatever, I'm done pointing out the obvious in your ridiculous statements.
 
alg7_munif said:
whether it is the newer model or an older one. There are also far a lot more people who don't have any problem with a firmware update even on their older model PS3..
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I already said that. If you want to keep agreeing with me, just quote the rest of my responses. Also, nice that you agree finally that firmware updates are bricking consoles. That wasn't so hard now was it?
 
Dallows said:
That was bound to happen. I'm not "freaking out." The only thing is this thread that upsets me is your insanity.

But whatever, I'm done pointing out the obvious in your ridiculous statements.
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You never pointed anything out. You made snarky comments that incidentally showed that you had no idea that there were multiple hardware revisions for the ps3, to give just one example.
 
Technoob said:
I already said that. If you want to keep agreeing with me, just quote the rest of my responses. Also, nice that you agree finally that firmware updates are bricking consoles. That wasn't so hard now was it?
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No that wasn't hard at all, I know that firmware updates could give problems to some but the percentage is much smaller than a BIOS update bricking mobos.

However saying that the latest updates are designed for newer models and they are causing lots of problems for older models is still a pure BS.
 
alg7_munif said:
No that wasn't hard at all, I know that firmware updates could give problems to some but the percentage is much smaller than a BIOS update bricking mobos.

However saying that the latest updates are designed for newer models and they are causing lots of problems for older models is still a pure BS.
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And you base that statement on your...blind faith in sony and zero research or information, or even anecdote. For someone who left the thread 3 responses ago you're doing great!
 
Technoob said:
You never pointed anything out. You made snarky comments that incidentally showed that you had no idea that there were multiple hardware revisions for the ps3, to give just one example.
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Actually I did.

And all I said what that you didn't know what you were talking.

I asked what you knew about the revisions (I have nothing to prove to you, it's the other way around) and you babbled something about backwards compatibility. You're really re-enforcing your argument that new firmware is bad for old hardware. Grats.
 
Dallows said:
Actually I did.

And all I said what that you didn't know what you were talking.

I asked what you knew about the revisions (I have nothing to prove to you, it's the other way around) and you babbled something about backwards compatibility. You're really re-enforcing your argument that new firmware is bad for old hardware. Grats.
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Seriously? For someone who is so in the tank for Sony, I would have thought you'd know about the hardware versions. Hint: there's a difference between the 60/20 fully BC versions, the 80 partial bc, and the newest 40/80/160 versions, and it's not the hard drive size. Here's a little starting taste...careful though, I heard this is a total M$ fanboy forum....http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=35032&highlight=45nm

For someone making judgments about people "not knowing what they're talking about", you're sure displaying a cornucopia of knowledge here, please keep the lessons going. . .
 
Dallows said:
You're really re-enforcing your argument that new firmware is bad for old hardware. Grats.
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I still haven't seen any evidence presented in this thread that new firmware causes special problems for older PS3 models.

veritas7 said:
I have a 60 GB PS3 from launch.

Works perfectly fine with latest firmware, I avidly watch the latest (profile) Blu-Rays on it, play my PS3/PS2 games, and download games from PSN.
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Ditto.
 
Stereophile said:
I still haven't seen any evidence presented in this thread that new firmware causes special problems for older PS3 models.



Ditto.
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Welcome to the "freaking out dyed in the wool sony fan club" ;) Who needs evidence when you can call people names to make your BS stand. :eek:
 
skgarach said:
The 360 and it's RROD did receive enough attention for MS to finally extend the warranty to 3 years.

And if you do install drivers (created by and endorsed by the manufacturer) that corrupt your system, the manufacturer should own up to the problem. I made no mention of a lawsuit, just that Sony help it's customers that are out of warranty and who applied their update. In all seriousness, I'm glad i'm under warranty and was able to send my system in, I just hope something like this doesn't happen to me a year or two down the road.
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no you didn't mention a lawsuit but the thread you referred to does that's all i was getting at.

i am with you i am out of Sony warranty in April of 09 and was dumb enough to not buy the BB warranty when i bought my PS3 so i am in the same boat if it fails i am left paying to fix it. but i made that choice dumb as it was so i can't very well blame Sony once i am out of warranty. do i think MS and Sony should offer more than a year warranty, yes should they offer a extended warranty that you can buy anytime with in your warranty period, yes i just don't see it happening.
 
I did a system restore on my 60gb a couple months ago (put Linux on there), and it worked just fine. I'm pretty sure it didn't take ~20 hours, either. Maybe something is broken with your external drive?
 
rflcptr said:
So the restore fixed the issue you were having?
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It did. And to those who say I'm peddling FUD (looking at you, sony fanboy trifecta), consider this:
Am I telling anyone that the playstation is poorly made or shouldn't be purchased? Nope, the opposite actually
Am I telling people then that they shouldn't buy a 60 or 80 gig model? Nope, anyone who can get one with BC totally should.
Am I reasonably telling people to maybe pause and see if there are issues with a firmware when they come out? Yep.

omg horror of horrors! FUD, fire DISASTER!!!!

Like I said, the people who have a problem with this reasonable response seem to be projecting their own insecurity about anyone saying anything "mean" about their beloved brand.
 
Technoob said:
Yeah, unless it's 100% necessary, I won't be updating anymore until it's confirmed that people aren't having these issues.

PS3 is nice hardware, but these 60 giggers (and some 80 giggers) seem to have problems with the firmware that's designed for the newer models. Trying to release software for 4-5 different hardware configs seems to be causing lots of problems for older models.

I'll be checking the forums for a few weeks before I update next time.
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I've got a launch 60gig and never had problems with the updates, but I have heard of people having issues.

Congrats on the fix though.

Off topic, Technoob after reading this whole thread, you use alot of big words.
 
Technoob said:
It did. And to those who say I'm peddling FUD (looking at you, sony fanboy trifecta), consider this:
Am I telling anyone that the playstation is poorly made or shouldn't be purchased? Nope, the opposite actually
Am I telling people then that they shouldn't buy a 60 or 80 gig model? Nope, anyone who can get one with BC totally should.
Am I reasonably telling people to maybe pause and see if there are issues with a firmware when they come out? Yep.
Am I making things up by saying that the newer updates are designed for the newer models and they are causing problem on the older models? Definitely.

omg horror of horrors! FUD, fire DISASTER!!!!

Like I said, the people who have a problem with this reasonable response seem to be projecting their own insecurity about anyone saying anything "mean" about their beloved brand.
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Actually there must be some difference in the revisions of PS3. I had a Jap launch 60Gb that froze without fail after a few mins on GTA4 & Bad Company.....I also know of 3 others with 60Gb Pal launch machines that had the same problem. Two of us now have the newer 80Gb Pal machine and there have been no freezing issues at all in any game.

Now obviously I'm not saying every single 60Gb is gonna freeze on certain games, but it is more than a coincidence that I know a few ppl having the same prob with the same games with the same SKU.
 
Can't we all just get along?
Oh, and FWIW, my 60GB PAL PS3 works just fine with 2.53. Blu-Rays, content streaming, games, Flash.. everything.
 
Tigerblade said:
Actually there must be some difference in the revisions of PS3. I had a Jap launch 60Gb that froze without fail after a few mins on GTA4 & Bad Company.....I also know of 3 others with 60Gb Pal launch machines that had the same problem. Two of us now have the newer 80Gb Pal machine and there have been no freezing issues at all in any game.

Now obviously I'm not saying every single 60Gb is gonna freeze on certain games, but it is more than a coincidence that I know a few ppl having the same prob with the same games with the same SKU.
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Maybe it is related to overheating. My PS3 froze before when I crammed it in a tight and poor ventilated place. Now it is placed in a well ventilated place and I didn't get the problem anymore. I also noticed that putting the the console vertically would give a better cooling since it is pushing the hot air out at the Blu-Ray drive side. So in a vertical position, the hot air will have a direct flow up.
 
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