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WeaponX

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I've been bouncing back and forth reading reviews and everything for both the 3570K and 3770K. Also been reading reviews for the Asus Sabertooth Z77 and Asus Maximus Extreme Z77. I would've waited out for Haswell but I just recently sold my i7 920 system, so a replacement system is kind of needed.

Here's what I have so far and all of this stuff could go back no problems.

Microcenter:

3570K + Asus Sabertooth Z77 bought for 380.00

Amazon:

Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 2400 MHz (PC3 19200 (CMD16GX3M4A2400C9)

I know already that the ram is way overkill, but I got it for dirt dirt cheap so why not right?

I want to run a 24/7 4.8ghz overclock and stable for a few years at least. What do you guys think?

Should I pick up a Maximus Extreme instead? and a 3770K?
 
If you have the money, the maximus v extreme is an awesome board (I own it). However for overclocking, my limit is around the same as it was with my previous board (coincidentally the z77 sabertooth). To push 4.8 as you desire, you're most likely going to have to
de-lid the chip, as ivy's temps tend to skyrocket quickly. Even then 4.8 is not guaranteed (silicon lottery).

What do you plan on doing with this computer? If it's just for gaming, a sabertooth (or any decent z77 mobo) + an i5 3570k should be fine for your needs.
 
All depend on what u want to do.. Gaming? Video stuff, editing, encode, etc..?.. However in anything option u pick keep the sabertooth.. Why? U want 24/7/365 OC system.. And for that u need a very very good and stable Mobo.. And the sabertooth is the best in term of quality components and is made to work in the hardest scenarios possible for a system... Also if money isn't factor and u r thinking in the future? Buy a 3770K and u will get a rig system for years...
 
Yeah, just gaming mostly. The system will be watercooled so temps shouldn't be a huge problem or is it still a big problem even with watercooling?

I'm thinking maybe just trade my 3570K in for a 3770K and call it a year.
 
So i recoomend sabertooth Z77 + 3770K...this new generation of games will make better use of multi threads processors so for the future 3770k rules... Apart u will Watercooling with closed loop solutions? Or fully custom watercooling kit?... Sincerelly as i recommend to all friends.. Want to OC a ivy the minimum closed loop solution is a corsair h80i or to be even more relax with thermaltake water 2.0 NZXT kraken X40-X60 or corsair h100i-h110 systems...
 
Can't go wrong with either. Most 3570k's and 3770k's can hit 4.5 no problem. Mine can run @ 4.8 stable on air I just choose to stay @ 4.6 for piece of mind I guess. Next is video card... options?
 
So I'm going to to Microcenter tomorrow and exchange my 3570k for a 3770K.

The rest of the system is pretty much set

I have an Asus GTX 690 with the following: Swiftech 320 Radiator(3 X Gentle Typhoons 1450rpm) l Swiftech Pump w/XSPC Res Top l Heatkiller 3.0 CPU Block l Heatkiller GPU-X GTX 690 "Hole Edition" Nickel l Heatkiller Geforce GTX 690 GPU Backplate l Danger Den 1/2ID UV Green tubing l EK EKoolant UV Green Liquid

And the rest of the system is:
Samsung 840 Pro 256gb
2 x WD Black 1T storage drive
Samsung SH-S203N DVD
Creative X-Fi Titanium HD
Corsair AX1200 PSU
Planar SA2311W23 3D LCD Monitor
Corsair 800D Case
 
So I reafirm go with the sabertooth and 3770k.. Gratz man holy nice rig u making...
 
I think I'm gonna pick up the Asus Maximus Extreme, kind of just go all out, no holds bar.
 
So I ended up with a 3770K and Maximus V Formula. My first attempt before I came to work, I was able to overclock to 4.8ghz at 1.375 volts. I need to test stability hmm....
 
Not stable at 4.8ghz with 1.375 volts. Anybody got any advice, I'm noobish in the Ivy Bridge overclocking deal.
 
Here's a pic of the system completed for everyone!

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WeaponX said:
Not stable at 4.8ghz with 1.375 volts. Anybody got any advice, I'm noobish in the Ivy Bridge overclocking deal.
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Since we share similar motherboards, I'll pm you some settings I use, if you want.
 
Yes, please that would be awesome, although the settings seem way easier than overclocking my i7 920, the rule sets have changed and some things can be left enabled like CPU spread spectrum etc so hence why I'm just a little lost.
 
As was said, there's a lot of variance in what speeds the chips are capable of. Average overclock for IB is somewhere around 4.6.

What are your temps when under load?
 
I haven't had time to actually get the temp readings yet. Stuck doing 3 twelve hour days atm. But as soon as I get a day off (Monday), I'm going to be spending it trying to find the stable with temps. I basically ran 3DMark to see if it'd pass that first and it failed so I know something's up with my overclock.

Basically my ideas for a stable overclock is:

1. 2 passes of 3DMark first
2. 20 mins of Prime 95 with temps in check (I don't see the need for anymore)
3. Running my favorite games to insure smoothness

That's pretty much it.
 
For right now I've set my speed at Asus's Gamer Profile of 4.6ghz but the voltage seems a tad high for that setting, it's 1.33 volts. But to be honest, I'm not worried about the life of my CPU as much as the life of the motherboard (I bought Microcenter's 2 year CPU coverage).
 
IB CPUs draw relatively little power, so the VRM system in the Formula is actually way overkill. You don't need to worry about it. Actually, any $200+ Z77 motherboard is more than enough for overclocking IB, and most $130+ Z77 motherboards are as well.

Don't use profiles, do the settings yourself, it's better that way. And thing is, with IB CPUs, temperatures shoot up extremely fast once you start adding voltage.
 
WeaponX said:
Not stable at 4.8ghz with 1.375 volts. Anybody got any advice, I'm noobish in the Ivy Bridge overclocking deal.
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cant you crank up the cpu voltage a little, you look cool enough, can you go 1.4v
im amd I don't know that much on intel, but both are cpus......
 
I can crank it up to 1.4v no problem for a stable 4.8ghz but I was unsure about all the other settings, thankfully Tonyftw sent me his settings and it's exactly what I've been searching for, the exact step by step settings (I'm fully aware it varies for everyone but it's nice to have a reference). You're the man Tony! Can't wait to get home and try the settings.
 
Okay Tony, I did as exactly step by step as describe in your message. I'm stuck at understanding this part and only this part.

"Cpu Offset Voltage - this is where it gets iffy. I have it at +.90 for 4.7, but my chip needs a lot of volts compared to others.
Try +.80 and work your way from there. You'll probably need to either raise or lower it."

Do you mean 0.080 or do you really mean .80? My options stop at 0.653 or something. So I'm thinking that you mean 0.080. Either way I couldn't get it stable at even .110 at a 47 multiplier so I'm guessing that my chip needs even more than yours.

My only solution right now is to set it "auto" at the mean time until I figure this one out. But at that settings, the volts get crazy scary like sometimes jumping to 1.54v according to GPU-Z. I've been monitoring my Temps through RealTemp and the hottest core got to 95 C during a 3DMark run which is unacceptable to me so I find a good + voltage setting soon here.

Help me understand offset clocking just a little bit. So if it's + whatever volts, then it's basically plus that voltage to the stock voltage at max correct? like if I set + .5 volts as my offset and my stock voltage is let's say 1.0 then the max that my CPU will ever get under load is 1.50 volts correct? so if my understanding of this is correct than what is the Intel Stock voltage for the 3770K?

Any help is appreciated guys and thanks for your patience.
 
WeaponX said:
Okay Tony, I did as exactly step by step as describe in your message. I'm stuck at understanding this part and only this part.

"Cpu Offset Voltage - this is where it gets iffy. I have it at +.90 for 4.7, but my chip needs a lot of volts compared to others.
Try +.80 and work your way from there. You'll probably need to either raise or lower it."

Do you mean 0.080 or do you really mean .80? My options stop at 0.653 or something. So I'm thinking that you mean 0.080. Either way I couldn't get it stable at even .110 at a 47 multiplier so I'm guessing that my chip needs even more than yours.

My only solution right now is to set it "auto" at the mean time until I figure this one out. But at that settings, the volts get crazy scary like sometimes jumping to 1.54v according to GPU-Z. I've been monitoring my Temps through RealTemp and the hottest core got to 95 C during a 3DMark run which is unacceptable to me so I find a good + voltage setting soon here.

Help me understand offset clocking just a little bit. So if it's + whatever volts, then it's basically plus that voltage to the stock voltage at max correct? like if I set + .5 volts as my offset and my stock voltage is let's say 1.0 then the max that my CPU will ever get under load is 1.50 volts correct? so if my understanding of this is correct than what is the Intel Stock voltage for the 3770K?

Any help is appreciated guys and thanks for your patience.
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Stock volts, just like oc'ing, also depends on the chip. Stock voltage for my 3770k is at 1.25, but my friends i7 runs at a way lower voltage at stock.

Sent you a pm on the other part, but yeah, I forgot to add the extra zero in the message.
 
So to figure out your stock voltage, you just set everything to stock and boot up to Windows, pull up CPU-Z and write down the CPU voltage readings?
 
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