problems with new pc

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thrive

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Well, i just got my new pc parts amd athlon x2 4400+, 1gb ram, abit KN8 sli mobo, and a nvidia 7800gt. Once i got it running and installed q4 it ran great, but sometimes my fps dips really low and i have no clue why for example on that Blip map near the megahealth my fps drops to like 25~30..the game is on medium graphics, 1280by1024, no AS\AA, no bumpmap etc. But if i do run the game on max graphics after about 10 minutes the fps goes from perfect 63 down to like 20 then once i quit back into windows my mouse cursor is all jittery and laggy. I don't think its from heat either because I checked my temps right afterwards and it was around 35C, i never seen it go higher though the mobo software so...btw same thing happened in unreal tournament 2004 too i set the graphics to the highest they can go and played this map called killbillybarn for a few minutes and the same thing happened.The fps was fine at first but after 2 minutes it dropped from the hundreds to around 40-50 :*( ......i have the 3369 patch for ut and the 1.0.5 patch for q4, amd 64 x2 driver for xp (not cool n' quiet). This doesnt only happen in games either. When I ran adobe after affects and premiere to work on some footage and ran the preview which is ram intensive my cursor became jittery just like with games, and when that happened i started up UT and was getting low fps again. so if anyone has any suggestions or ideas please post ty

BTW 3dmar05 score of ~7200 :p
 
What kind of power supply are you using? Given what you're saying and using, it sounds to me like your PSU might not be fully up to the job of your new rig.
 
hmmmm, this could accually be a variety of problems but lets start with the video drivers and the graphics card temps. Since you can play for a while just perfectly and then you hit a wall it sounds to me like a heat problem, but believe it or not I've been wrong before. :D :D

Anyway post which version of the Nvidia Forceware drivers you are using. (Example: 77.77, 78.01, 81.95 etc. )

Also post which case you have and what kind of cooling system you have. Also when you say that your temps are 35C is that on the CPU or graphics card?

Which 7800GT do you have? eVGA? XFX? BFG? and is it overclocked at all?
 
nothing on my system is overclocked. The video card is a eVGA 7800gt with stock cooling and nvidia forceware 81.98 and the 35C was for my cpu. Lately, i've been having a new probelm ever since i updated my chipset drivers, whenever im playing a game i hear windows' device connect and disconnect sound with i have no devices connected in USB slots except my mouse. I looked under the "saftely remove hardware" and i only see my harddrive on the list. If i click "STOP" will my hdd stop working?!
 
thrive said:
nothing on my system is overclocked. The video card is a eVGA 7800gt with stock cooling and nvidia forceware 81.98 and the 35C was for my cpu. Lately, i've been having a new probelm ever since i updated my chipset drivers, whenever im playing a game i hear windows' device connect and disconnect sound with i have no devices connected in USB slots except my mouse. I looked under the "saftely remove hardware" and i only see my harddrive on the list. If i click "STOP" will my hdd stop working?!
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Well that is a problem with the Nvidia IDE drivers. For some reason or another it lists your HD under removeable devices. As far as removing your HD, I don't know if it would stop working, I've never wanted to find out. I dont think it would however, but I wouldn't try. Uninstall all Nvidia drivers except the device drivers under the ControlPanel-> Add/Remove Programs uttility. Then reinstall the nForce drivers and when it asks if you want to install the IDE drivers just click no. I've tried both the Nvidia and Microsoft IDE drivers and it doesnt seem to make much difference in my PC. The Microsoft drivers will take over by default if you dont install the Nvidia ones.

You also need to check your graphics card temps. Right click on the Desptop and click properties. Then click on Advanced and then click on the 7800GT tab. On the left sie there should me a tempature menu option. Click that and tell us what your idle temps are. Then keep that window open and play a game for a while. Then alt-tab out of the game or just quit the game and tell us what your load temps are.
 
i didnt reinstall the nforce drivers, i went in the add/remove programs utility and just uninstalled the IDE drivers, the only ide device I have is my dvd/cd drive my hdd is sata
 
after running 3dmark05 again i got a score of 6500 about, afterwards i had the same issue with the cursor being all jittery..It seems when i do anything demanding to my pc it triggers this event. Also, when my pc is in that state and i do anything such as starting a program, dragging a window around or pretty much anything, i hear a low volume, high pitched, squeeky sound coming from my pc. I think its the system speaker but i dont know why it would be doing that.
 
well its probably not a heat problem then as those temps look ok. It could be a video driver conflict or more likely a problem with your dual core CPU. The dual cores have been known to have this jittery problem in some form or another. Although I am concerned that your 3DMark score went from 7200 at the beginning of he post to 6500 now. What have you done between those 2 runs besides uninstalling the IDE drivers? Did you restart after uninstalling these drivers before running 3DMark?

Take a look at this post having to do with dual core gaming issues. Try to take some time and read as much of it as you can. I haver personaly only read about the first half of it. Looks like Fix #2 might be your best shot. The Microsoft hotfix.

If you still can't get things working try a different video driver. The one you have has been good for most people but you never know. If you do this make sure the Read the Video Card FAQv2 in the Video Card forum, and uninstall your drivers using the Driver Cleaner Pro program. Good Luck. :)
 
the drop of 7200 to 6500 was because when i ran the 3dmark05 the first time it didnt get that jittery/laggyness for some reason and i got clean results
 
damn it, after reinstalling the nforce drivers and not installing ide or w.e i still have the problem where i hear the sound and my mouse stops working in games for a few seconds
 
the problem thats really getting to me is whenever i play any games i hear the windows xp device disconnect then connect sound and i cant move my mouse or do anthing for a few seconds
 
thrive said:
the problem thats really getting to me is whenever i play any games i hear the windows xp device disconnect then connect sound and i cant move my mouse or do anthing for a few seconds
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You still have this problem even after uninstalling the IDE drivers? Does your HD still show up as a removable device? If so you didnt get the Nvidia IDE driver uninstalled.

Did you try any of those things I mentioned above with the dual core fixes? :confused:
 
what things? All you mentioned was a topic that you didnt give a link 2, and i think i alraedy have some sort of hotfix a friend sent me, maybe its the same one u were talking about. and there is no IDE driver, i dont even see the IDE driver under nvidia add/remove programs.
 
im concidering reformatting, but i have 2 partitions..1 for windows/drivers C and 1 for data D such as games, movies, etc. If i reinstall windows in the C partition will my games, movies, data still work even though they wont have like a registry entry or something?
 
They might not either. If they require registry entries to run, then they won't work. It really is a tossup because some work without the registry, and others dont.
 
Sorry, I forgot to link the thread I was refering to. Read this post.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781

Did you reformat when you got your Athlon X2? More often than not people have MUCH better luck reformatting when upgrading from a single core to a dual core. So if you havent reformated thats the very first thing I would do. Also check out the post above.
 
it was a new pc, i built from scratch so yeah first install of windows was with x2
 
i think the problem with the device disconnect and connect sound and the hang of my mouse in games has to do with either my mouse or usb ports and not the IDE drivers. I used my mouse for a bit with the PS/2 adapter and it worked without getting the annoying sound and hang up, but i need to use usb to get it smooth at 1600dpi.
 
tomorrow im gonna try taking 1 of the sticks of ram out and see if i have the problem, then try the other stick
 
thrive said:
im not sure if the problem is the cpu maybe its the ram?
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I would doubt that this is a RAM problem however if you are concerned about it you can download and run memtest. Its just and ISO file you download and burn to a cd and then you boot from it and it tests memory. Its a good way to test RAM sticks for errors. Just google memtest and you will find it.

In the device manager do you have any unrecognized or uninstalled devices? Any big yellow question marks? Are your USB drivers installed? What mouse do you have and did it come with any software?
 
my mouse is a mx518 and i installed the drivers. I reinstalled windows and the mouse problem looks fixed so far. But i still have the problem with the fps randomly just dropping after a few minutes...I think maybe the cpu is underclocking itself or something?
 
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