Problems with New Hardware

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scottyd

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I put together my new system which consists of:
Amd x2 3800+
MSI K8n Neo4 Platinum
evga 7800gt

then previous parts I had
2 gb ocz
2 hitachi 160gb sata drives running in raid 0

I installed everything did a fresh install of windows installed all the windows update stuff sp2, directx, the latest nforce4 drivers and forceware drivers.

I go to run bf2 and when its loading for the 1st time it completely freezes music stops and everything. I restart and try again and it crashes to desktop. I clear the bf2 cache and it freezes again while rendering for the 1st time.

I try Cs:s and crank up all the settings. Crashes to desktop when I join a server. Load it up again I get in game run around for a little while and I completley lock up.

I haven't touched any settings for the cpu or gpu. I know the gpu came stock overclocked. I am running forceware 81.98
Another problem is that I have a razer copperhead and everytime I boot the mouse doesn't work. The mouse is lite up but when I move it nothing happens so I have to reconnect the mouse to the usb port and then it works. I have the latest firmware and drivers installed.
I am getting kinda worried about all the bad stuff that is happening with this.
 
Run Prime95 (google it if you are unsure what it is) overnight on the torture test and report your results. Also, even though you have used the RAM before without issue Memtest86 it to be sure it isn't bad RAM.
 
I started memtest86 so I will let that do a couple passes. I am finding that even just going on the internet on it will sometimes lock up. I can't ctrl alt delete or move the mouse so I restart and sometimes at the windows loading screen it will just stall and stay there for about 30-45 seconds and then go into windows. The little blue progress bar thing still moves but it won’t go into windows. This only happens sometimes though.

My temps don't look high at all according to the msi core utility. I restarted and then I tried to start it up again and it said your motherboard is not support. Very weird since it came with the motherboard. I haven’t tried it since.

I thought about reformatting again and instead of using the very latest drivers from the site for motherboard and video card I was going to use the ones on the disk and see if I still had the same problems.
 
I think I am going to rma it and get a different motherboard. I ran those tests for a little while and nothing came up. Someone i talked to said try running 3dmark06 and in the process of trying to download it it locked up a couple times. So I reformated again. This time once it installed I used only the drivers from the motherboard and video card disks that were included. Installed them and then it asked me to restart. It restarted and then either stalled at the windows loading screen again or gave me a black screen right after it got past the windows screen. This happend almost everytime reset it.

I am done with this motherboard and would not recommend it.
So now I need to pick another motherboard out on newegg. I will have a $119 credit. I don't want an SLI board so I have been looking at these

ASUS A8N-E http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131530
ABIT AN8 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127197

Any suggestions, comments on those boards?
 
scottyk87 said:
I think I am going to rma it and get a different motherboard. I ran those tests for a little while and nothing came up. Someone i talked to said try running 3dmark06 and in the process of trying to download it it locked up a couple times. So I reformated again. This time once it installed I used only the drivers from the motherboard and video card disks that were included. Installed them and then it asked me to restart. It restarted and then either stalled at the windows loading screen again or gave me a black screen right after it got past the windows screen. This happend almost everytime reset it.

I am done with this motherboard and would not recommend it.
So now I need to pick another motherboard out on newegg. I will have a $119 credit. I don't want an SLI board so I have been looking at these

ASUS A8N-E http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131530
ABIT AN8 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127197

Any suggestions, comments on those boards?
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I own both boards and am using the Asus right now. I had some stability issues with the Abit board - none so far with the A8N-E. The Asus has a little better design layout wise and I like the setup for the BIOS a little more. I have been using it for about a week and even though I have only owned Abit boards in the past I have been very happy with the A8N-E.
 
Thanks for the reply. I was leaning towards Asus since thats what I had before. I've never rmaed with newegg before. Can I buy the Asus board and then send the msi one back and then they can just credit me when they recieve the defective one? I want to get this up and running Asap.
 
scottyk87 said:
Thanks for the reply. I was leaning towards Asus since thats what I had before. I've never rmaed with newegg before. Can I buy the Asus board and then send the msi one back and then they can just credit me when they recieve the defective one? I want to get this up and running Asap.
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I am unsure how they will do it, e-mail their support department. I am sure they can do something for you along those lines.
 
I started to mess around more with the msi board (tweaked memory timings) and I now it doesn't freeze in windows and sometimes not in games. I played a full game of bf2 online and offline and no problems, but its very random when it locks up. I started messing with the afinity and that sometimes fixed the problem. Also tried running it in windows 98/me compatability mode and that sometimes worked also.
I started up steam and played cs 1.6 for a little while and then i decided to alt tab out and look at my task mananger. Right as a clicked on the performance tab it locked up.

As of right now I have both the windows hotfix and amd driver installed. I am very puzzeled as to what to do. I have though about rmaing the cpu and getting the same one or maybe stick to a single core until all these game issues are sorted out. I would rather not have to fiddle with a game everytime I run it. And if I run the game using only 1 cpu then what good is that? I read a review of the x2 recently and he said he had the cpu since November and he has tried everything including the patches, and hotfixes and everything on the internet to fix x2 gaming problems and he thinks that the x2 is not ready for games. He said it does well with cpu intensive tasks but when it comes down to gaming games just cant handle it even when he set the affinity to cpu 0 it still froze.

Then again I see all these people on the newegg reviews for this processor saying how great it is and no problems at all although I have had many lock up problems. I am going to run prime95 on both cores today for for around 7 hours and see how it does. I ran it in the past for a couple hours and it found nothing.

edit: just loaded up CS:S played for about 5 minutes and locked up. This is without touching the affinity and both the amd driver and MS hotfix which is suppose to fix steam games according to that amd dual core gaming thread.

edit2: loaded CS:S up again set the affinity to cpu1. Played for a little while and then I got an error has occured and the send, dont send. So it basically crashed to desktop.
BF2 seems to play fine with out messing with the affinity.
 
Prime95 just got done running for 7 hours and no errors. I ran 2 instances of prime95 1 for cpu0 and the other for cpu1. I ran the in place large ffts (maximum heat, power consumption, some ram tested)
Anyone have an suggestions on this? People that are running x2 processors have you had lock ups like this? If so what games and what fixed it?
 
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