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problem with chemist_slime

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TheGoog

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A few weeks ago I paypal'ed chemist_slime $200 USD for some Patriot DDR400 ram with 2-3-2-5 timings. Received the RAM shortly after payment cleared, and immediatly tested.

Turns out one of the two matched sticks was chock full of errors. Well into tens of thousands of errors just passed the halfway point in memtest86.

But he states he cannot come up with the money to refund the ram.

So we came to an agreement that he'd ship me some PQI DDR400 ram plus $40 and once I received that ram I'd send him back the Patriot stuff. AFTER I tested the patriot RAM with a new PSU that I was receieving a day or two after making the deal on the replacement ram.

Once I received the new PSU, and finally confirmed that the problem was in the ram, and not in any of my compnents, I relayed the information to him. And over the last week I've left him numerous PM's, and not a single reply.

All the while still roaming the board, and stating that he has money to buy roomey and expensive HD's and still somehow just missing my PM's apparently.

So I'm left with very buggy RAM. and a seller that is seeming to avoid me completely.

Anybody out there that think they could help? This is my first bad experience on the [H]Forum, and I'd love it to be my last.
 
tried contacting in every way I could, no response.

Also just filed a dispute on paypal, and I'll give him a few days before I move this up to a claim.
 
What's the warranty coverage on those?

Might be worth a shot to see if Patriot will replace the kit.
 
Spartacus said:
What's the warranty coverage on those?

Might be worth a shot to see if Patriot will replace the kit.
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Agreed cuz I know that they have a lifetime warranty policy.
 
Actually, I just looked into that, and now I'm thinking I just might wanna RMA em.

BUT, he just messaged me (go figure, after I initiate a dispute, and raise a fuss on here) saying that the replacement PQI stuff is on the way. Since the PQI stuff doesnt seem nearly as hot as the Patriot, and Patriot seems to have such a great replacement program, you think its far off to RMA those and return the ones I dont want to the seller?

I've had to deal with some mighty big hassles here, i dont feel like I'm too far off my rocker thinking like this...

What do you guys think?
 
If you can RMA the Patriot sticks and you prefer them, then you should send back the sticks that you don't want. Since those are the sticks you originally paid for anyways, there's nothing wrong with getting the item that you originally wanted.
 
Zero82z said:
If you can RMA the Patriot sticks and you prefer them, then you should send back the sticks that you don't want. Since those are the sticks you originally paid for anyways, there's nothing wrong with getting the item that you originally wanted.
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Yep. The RAM companies don't even care where/how you got the sticks from for the most part either. Just as long as the heatspreader was never removed, no purposeful/deliberate damage, no modding attempts, has the serial # sticker and such on it.
 
Then I shall RMA and compare performance on the two sets. Hopefully this will all be done by the end of December!
 
TheGoog said:
Then I shall RMA and compare performance on the two sets. Hopefully this will all be done by the end of December!
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Yep. IMO the actual slowest part of the RMA is getting hold of them via e-mail and waiting for a RMA #. ;) After that, it moves fast. USPS Priority to the RAM company in a Flat-Rate envelope, give them a day or two, and they send it back to you fast. (G. Skill 2-day FedEx'd it to me.)
 
I actually live in Canada, so add a few days to that, but I'm hopin for the best from here on in.
 
Just my tuppence worth

Ram can be perfect in one pc but as soon as they are fitted into a mobo they dont like they can give out thousands of errors but their may not be anything physically wrong with the ram.

I have had that happen to me on more than one occassion.
 
Considering only one of the sticks of that kind of RAM is giving errors in his board, that makes incompatibility far less likely. I'd definitely go the RMA route if I was in that situation.
 
damnathan said:
Considering only one of the sticks of that kind of RAM is giving errors in his board, that makes incompatibility far less likely. I'd definitely go the RMA route if I was in that situation.
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nope, Thats what i am talkin about, 2 sticks of ram in the same mobo one gives errors but the other doesnt and when the ram is tested in another rig both sticks are fine....

I am not saying the stick isnt messed up, but I have seen it time and time again where 1 stick runs ok but 2 dont seem to work without one having problems...

I found that it was gigabyte mobos that I had most problems with when it came to that type of prob.
 
I'm running a DFI Lanparty Ultra-D. Are these boards known to have those problems?
 
They can be picky, what I would do to rule out a bad stick of ram is to try them singly, put one stick only in the pc and then test and then take it out and put the other stick in the same slot you tested the first one in then test again. If they both pass then their ok, if one fails then its dodgy :)

testing 1 stick at a time is the way to do it...
 
I actually already did that, and also tested them in a ECS KN1 Extreme mobo, and with 2 different procs in each setup, 2 different PSU's, ad 2 different vidcards....

I eliminated all variables and got the same results everytime
 
TheGoog said:
I'm running a DFI Lanparty Ultra-D. Are these boards known to have those problems?
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YES!!!! I actually got rid of my Patriot +XBLK sticks because I was having so many problem with them in an Ultra-D. I ended up getting a set of G.Skill FX TCCD when they first came out. I was flying right out of the package @ 285HTT (2850mhz CPU). I sold off the sticks and the new owner reported no problems at all.
 
But that doesnt explain why I was getting the exact same errors in the KN1 Extreme
 
TheGoog said:
But that doesnt explain why I was getting the exact same errors in the KN1 Extreme
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True but you asked about the Ultra-D and I gave my experience. I would suspect faulty RAM after the testing process that you have put them thru.
 
we'll find out oon enough. When I receive the replacement ram, I'll be shipping off this stuff for an RMA, and well, I'll keep everyone updated!
 
TheGoog said:
we'll find out oon enough. When I receive the replacement ram, I'll be shipping off this stuff for an RMA, and well, I'll keep everyone updated!
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This is where I'm confused. You bought some ram and 1 piece is bad. Happens all the time. You should be able to RMA it, return it for refund, get partial refund for your ag, whatever. I understand the seller is sending you other ram and a partial refund. Nice.

How do you get to RMA the original ram WHILE using the seller's replacement ram? Let alone his $40? And at the end of the process you get to decide which ram you want? LOL. He's sure gone out of his way to resolve this.
 
ickywu said:
This is where I'm confused. You bought some ram and 1 piece is bad. Happens all the time. You should be able to RMA it, return it for refund, get partial refund for your ag, whatever. I understand the seller is sending you other ram and a partial refund. Nice.
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No, this doesn't happen all the time. He bought used RAM from here and was advertised as working. The seller had to have known about the problem unless he didn't bother to check the RAM before selling it, which is still poor trading practice.
 
The $40 only comes to me if I return the original set, and the only reason that I am being offered the $40 is because its cheaper PQI stuff and pretty sucky compared to the original stuff I paid for. Seeing as I couldnt talk him past the $40 refund and the PQI RAM, I feel like I should have some headroom in this deal as well. I'm not even sure if I'll RMA the original set at this point. It's just become too much of a hassle with this guy, and I wish I would have waited for a better deal elsewhere.
 
OMG, I can't believe this guy has been talking shit about me for days and I didn't even realize it. I had this ram in my system and never had I ever had a problem with it. He gets the ram and tests it and it errors, so I was ok. I was strapped for cash at that point so I offered him replacement ram. He gets the ram and now I read that he's gonna RMA the memory and keep my other memory? WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THAT???? Could someone please help me here? I'm the one being swindled!!!! not him.

There's the tracking to prove he got the replacement ram. LY52 4325 645U S
 
TheGoog said:
The $40 only comes to me if I return the original set, and the only reason that I am being offered the $40 is because its cheaper PQI stuff and pretty sucky compared to the original stuff I paid for. Seeing as I couldnt talk him past the $40 refund and the PQI RAM, I feel like I should have some headroom in this deal as well. I'm not even sure if I'll RMA the original set at this point. It's just become too much of a hassle with this guy, and I wish I would have waited for a better deal elsewhere.
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You asked for th 40 dollar refund. I agreed. It's not sucky ram, it costs 220+ on newegg.
 
TheGoog said:
tried contacting in every way I could, no response.

Also just filed a dispute on paypal, and I'll give him a few days before I move this up to a claim.
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You didn't email me? You didn't call me. Every way you could? Please...
 
ickywu said:
This is where I'm confused. You bought some ram and 1 piece is bad. Happens all the time. You should be able to RMA it, return it for refund, get partial refund for your ag, whatever. I understand the seller is sending you other ram and a partial refund. Nice.

How do you get to RMA the original ram WHILE using the seller's replacement ram? Let alone his $40? And at the end of the process you get to decide which ram you want? LOL. He's sure gone out of his way to resolve this.
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I sure have. I dont' get this? Never has he told me he was gonna RMA the ram. I was out for 3 days and when I get back he opens this thread and talks hella shit about me. I offered to replace the ram with a new set of brand new in the package (sealed) ram, and in exchange when I get the other ram back, I'll refund him 40 bucks. Now he's gonna RMA it and compare and keep both?
 
OMG, I'm so worked up right now that I feel like just driving up to Canada and getting my fucking memory back in person.
 
i understand where you are coming from,but just a word of advice you dont want to be so "worked up" you might end up locking your own thread...
 
iseedeadpeople said:
i understand where you are coming from,but just a word of advice you dont want to be so "worked up" you might end up locking your own thread...
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True, I feel much better now. But the buyer better contact me soon or I might make a call to Patriot and see that his RMA doesn't go through.
 
chemist_slime said:
True, I feel much better now. But the buyer better contact me soon or I might make a call to Patriot and see that his RMA doesn't go through.
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Well you're back, and now the situation can and should be handled in private via PM's. No need to smear the name of a trader just trying to make things right. I would have this thread locked unless the situation escalates in some way. Good luck and hopefully things get resolved.
 
thunderstruck! said:
No, this doesn't happen all the time. He bought used RAM from here and was advertised as working. The seller had to have known about the problem unless he didn't bother to check the RAM before selling it, which is still poor trading practice.
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Do you think it's possible that this could be compatibility related? If so, isn't it also possible seller could have tested the ram in his setup and found it functional?

This sort of thing does happen, and the problems can be resolved through communication. Let's see how it shakes out.
 
TheGoog said:
we'll find out oon enough. When I receive the replacement ram, I'll be shipping off this stuff for an RMA, and well, I'll keep everyone updated!
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That's not ethical.

Do one or the other, but not both. You don't get to double-dip, ever, and if you're going to persist in this manner you're gonna end up on a lot of DNT lists, including mine.
 
This is what the buyer sent me on the 21 of december and since then he has not responded. He did review this thread today though according to the "recent activity" thing. What should or can I do?

Hey, I havent been home since the 10th, and wont be till January 18th. Doing an apprenticeship at IMAX Toronto. The memory most likely arrived, but I wont know till i get back home.
 
let me get this right, you sold him some ram, he says it had problems, you then shipped some replacements to him so he now has 2 different sets of ram from you but only payed for 1 and isnt responding to your emails/pm's etc ?

If that is the case and he is dodging your emails as he now has 2 sets of your ram and only payed for one, then I would think he is pulling a fast one and is trying to rip you off.

****'s like that piss me off, especially when you can tell they are active on the forums but yet they dont reply to your pm's and emails.

well, you have his address, if you live close to him then pay him a visit or be like me and trash their car if he has one as it will cost them alot more than the cost of the ram to get it fixed, even if they do have insurance, their is always the excess that will leave him out of pocket and also he will lose his no claims bonus if he has any. :D

REPLY TO HIS PM'S IS THE LEAST YOU CAN DO FOR CHEMIST SLIME.....

I guess its a waiting game now to see if january the 18/19th will turn up anything good for ya. I hope it works out for ya in the end dude.
 
EVIL-SCOTSMAN said:
let me get this right, you sold him some ram, he says it had problems, you then shipped some replacements to him so he now has 2 different sets of ram from you but only payed for 1 and isnt responding to your emails/pm's etc ?

If that is the case and he is dodging your emails as he now has 2 sets of your ram and only payed for one, then I would think he is pulling a fast one and is trying to rip you off.

****'s like that piss me off, especially when you can tell they are active on the forums but yet they dont reply to your pm's and emails.

well, you have his address, if you live close to him then pay him a visit or be like me and trash their car if he has one as it will cost them alot more than the cost of the ram to get it fixed, even if they do have insurance, their is always the excess that will leave him out of pocket and also he will lose his no claims bonus if he has any. :D

REPLY TO HIS PM'S IS THE LEAST YOU CAN DO FOR CHEMIST SLIME.....

I guess its a waiting game now to see if january the 18/19th will turn up anything good for ya. I hope it works out for ya in the end dude.
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That is totally correct. He now has 2 sets of ram and said that he's going to RMA the first set and see which one he likes best. That is total BS.
 
Ugh, that sucks man... sorry to hear you seemly got screwed. Just for the record I just bought an 805 P-D off of chemist and everything went smoothly, he's a decent guy to deal with, and the cpu works great. I hope you recover your ram from the f*cktard one way or another.
 
yea thats bullshit, I think the 18th is the date that he thinks he will have the rma'd ram back.

Personally, I think he is pulling a fast one as he hasnt even got the balls to reply to your emails/pms even tho he is active on the forums = somethings fishy...

I hope he gets blacklisted and nobody from here trades with him again, not for the fact that he has 2 sets of ram, but for the fact that their is a disputed trade and he is ignoring your emails/pm,s even tho he is floating about on the forums to which he cant deny....

I have a feeling that he will turn up eventually and say that it wasnt him on the forums, just like every other dodgy trader says.

sorry its turned out this way for you dude....
 
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