Powermac 1.25 Processor Upgrade

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hey guys

I have a Powermac 1.25ghz, 167mhz FSB, Single Processor

and would like to get a little more power out of it,

what am I looking at for processor upgrades, single or dual, and costs of each?

I know 1.42 is the max, last I checked, but I am looking for something affordable, and I would like dual if possible.

thanks :)
 
Buy a new computer. The G4s don't go high enough to warrant upgrading that CPU... get an iMac or something instead.
 
Black Morty Rackham said:
Buy a new computer. The G4s don't go high enough to warrant upgrading that CPU... get an iMac or something instead.
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Ummm


I have 4 HD's
2048MB Ram
a Combo and 16X DVDRW Superdrive,
9800 pro
7000 PCI
UDMA133 Controller
and an M-Audio Revo 7.1


How in gods name can an Imac help me? I hate imacs.



I'm not looking for the Apple Buy a new computer answer, i'm looking for the how much will it cost to upgrade the processor answer.
 
Well... going to 1.4GHz won't really boost performance much. Your only real option is a dual processor upgrade... and those probably cost a fortune.
 
Get a dual 1.42 module off of eBay. Put it in your MDD. Press the power button and VOILA!

And yes, I agree: Suggesting that somebody get an iMac when their current machine is already worth thousands of dollars and would perform better than an iMac with a processor upgrade is absolutely absurd.
 
Go right ahead.

I see no point in a desktop that has as much expandability as a notebook.
 
If the dual 1.42 is going to cost you as much as Im thinking it will, you'd be better off saving up for a G5, in my opinion. If your willing to wait, pray to god that the Power5 makes it to macs with its dual-core configuration, and an integrated memory controller.

The FSB is the G4 achilles heel, and throwing another processor on the same bus doesn't do amazing things for raw number-crunching performance...although it helps multitasking "feel".
 
actually the imac g5's have been widely reviewed as a amazing machine for the price, because of its power design and the fact its 1500$ less then the actual g5 tower and the only real difference imo is the g5 has a better gfx card
 
cr3do said:
actually the imac g5's have been widely reviewed as a amazing machine for the price, because of its power design and the fact its 1500$ less then the actual g5 tower and the only real difference imo is the g5 has a better gfx card
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And then there's the whole "upgrade" thing. Namely, you can't. No real expandability. And you're saddled with only their LCD choice.
 
Methodical said:
If the dual 1.42 is going to cost you as much as Im thinking it will, you'd be better off saving up for a G5, in my opinion.
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$300-400 is so much that it warrants saving for a new $2,000+ machine? :confused:
 
lopoetve said:
And then there's the whole "upgrade" thing. Namely, you can't. No real expandability. And you're saddled with only their LCD choice.
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what upgrade thing lol the only thin u ahve to upgrade is the ram and u woulda had to upgrade it anyway. And as for expandability u seem to be cofusing a g5 tower with a pc the only think ppl change on a g5 is the rama g5 isn't like a pc where u can play around withe every second part. Its a work machine, thats it and as a work machine all u really need is ram and processur speed, and rather then being saddled with their lcd choice idk if u ever saw a apple lcd but its one of the highest quailty ones ive seen its pretty beautiful.
 
cr3do said:
what upgrade thing lol the only thin u ahve to upgrade is the ram and u woulda had to upgrade it anyway. And as for expandability u seem to be cofusing a g5 tower with a pc the only think ppl change on a g5 is the rama g5 isn't like a pc where u can play around withe every second part. Its a work machine, thats it and as a work machine all u really need is ram and processur speed, and rather then being saddled with their lcd choice idk if u ever saw a apple lcd but its one of the highest quailty ones ive seen its pretty beautiful.
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1. We use english here. Please learn it. Typing classes should follow.
2. :rolleyes: You can upgrade HD's, the superdrive, the ram, the video card, etc... there is a LOT of upgradability on the G5's. If you'll notice, he already did a LOT of upgrading to his G4 tower.
3. Work machine? LOL. Work machine my ASS. It's whatever you want it to be, just like a desktop PC.
4. It's an ok LCD... but there are better ones out there, and better CRT's to boot.
 
Well, there are advantages of iMacs. Our original one from 1998 sucks now, sure. A PowerMac could've been upgraded. But I don't regret buying it one second (though, knowing what I know now, I would've waited for revision b or c). It had a nice run, and was cheap. A nice machine, all in all. I doubt I'd regret buying an iMac G5, either...

Of course I'd rather have a PowerMac... even if I wouldn't upgrade it... And, obviously, if you like upgrading your computer, don't buy an iMac. To each his own, YMMV, etc etc. ;)
 
lopoetve said:
1. We use english here. Please learn it. Typing classes should follow.
2. :rolleyes: You can upgrade HD's, the superdrive, the ram, the video card, etc... there is a LOT of upgradability on the G5's. If you'll notice, he already did a LOT of upgrading to his G4 tower.
3. Work machine? LOL. Work machine my ASS. It's whatever you want it to be, just like a desktop PC.
4. It's an ok LCD... but there are better ones out there, and better CRT's to boot.
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Yah dont worry i know english i just dont have much in between posts, to actually post as if i rarely do its because someone is clearly in the wrong.
So lets see,
1) imac 65's come with 160 gig hardrive unless ur the almighty pron master of the unviverse (or do 3d but in that case you wont even touch a mac) You wont fill up anytime soon. So that elminates hdd for all this upgrading talk the talk i hear of most if the fact you pople buy new computers every 3 years or so thus making any realy expandbility of the g5 pretty futile.
2) Mac's account for 5 % of personal computers .5 % of this 5 is actually by users who use it for personal use. The rest of them are used in industry, whether it be in video, graphics or what not. I would not buy a mac a personal computer because of the fact thats its limited in Games and such. I would however buy it as a work machine (as many others do) Because of the fact that a mac is much safer then a pc in the sense that there isn't as much virus's or junk spyware. As well as the mac manages memory in a smart way. Why wouldn't i use it to surf the net and all that junk, it lags in alot of respects in terms of Flash and such i mean i use a emac at school and any flash made after 2002 it will lag so its pretty bad int hat regard.
3) Lastly regardless of there are better lcd's and crts there is a cost issue considering the price of your G5 will explode if you conder buy a top of th eline lcd or crt so its all up to you. But the cost/value ratio isn't as high on a G5 as it is on the new imac G5's
 
cr3do said:
3) Lastly regardless of there are better lcd's and crts there is a cost issue considering the price of your G5 will explode if you conder buy a top of th eline lcd or crt so its all up to you.
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Right, but no one said you had to buy an apple monitor. A very nice CRT from any other company won't set you back but a few hundred dollars or so. Does Apple even make CRT monitors anymore? If you've got the iMac (i regret to say that i don't know if it supports dual monitors) you could just stick a second screen on it. All you need is just another monitor laying around or if you're willing to buy one you're all set to slip another head on your mac and you've got their screen plus any screen of your choice. I'm not saying this will work for everyone, but it could solve some people's problems.
 
it doesn't but im trying to prove a point to him that macs are more of a work machine by far then a personal computer and just listed him the reasons why
 
cr3do said:
it doesn't but im trying to prove a point to him that macs are more of a work machine by far then a personal computer and just listed him the reasons why
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WTF... ?

I don't get your argument at all.
 
I have absolutely no idea what he is talking about...yes you can use your Mac for personal use and a lot of people do...a lot of people use it for business to and not just people that do graphics and video editing...yes you can play games on them but probably not the latest and greatest but that goes for the PC world too! just look at my wifes HP Pavillion Celeron 366 that is only a few years old....even when new it wouldn't play crap but she doesn't play games and it doesn't matter to her if she can get 1,998,392.998716 FPS in a shooter game...what is she going to get as a replacement? probably a G5 iMac...what am I currently using? my iBook and damn...that is also for personal use...go figure
 
cr3do said:
Yah dont worry i know english i just dont have much in between posts, to actually post as if i rarely do its because someone is clearly in the wrong.
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ok lemme rephrase myself (for the third time, im starting to feel like I have to resort to big caps letters in order for people to actually understand.
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Work machine? LOL. Work machine my ASS. It's whatever you want it to be, just like a desktop PC.
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What you people really dont understand (or maybe your just to lazy to read the page before and actually try to understand it , I dont know) is that this whole thing started as a debate on how a imac g5 is more worth it in product/price wise as the g5 tower. The arguement he is trying to make is, that the expadibility is what makes it more worth it, and what im trying to tell him is that in reality macs IN A MAJORITY(sorry i had to make it so big but reallyyou people tend to over look stuff like that) aren't really over expanded the way that PC's are. So now the point i am trying to make is that macs IN A MAJORITY are work machines and most of them are used in a INDUSTRY ENVIORNMENT Of course you can use a mac as a personal computer. I just dont understand why people would go through the agony of random application closings lack of games and paying ridiculously prices for a computer that could easily be replaced as a much cheaper much more efficiant and much more reliable pc. However not saying macs aren't good machines , but I am saying the reason mac hasn't died yet (other then the fact microsoft funds them so they dont file for bankruptcy) is because of the graphic/web/multimedia INDUSTRY, that uses them. Thus me making my point that a mac is used as a work machine much more then a personal computer IN THE MAJORITY OF THE CASES not all, the majority.
(and im eagerly waiting what screwball as some smart ass remark to make because they have nothing better to do with there lives but to irritate people)
 
1. Invest heavily in some english courses.

2. I know 4 people who own macs. Three of them own them for personal use only, and one of them uses his for both. The reason macs haven't died is because there are many reasons people buy computers; a couple of which include looks and ease of use. If one has not used a computer before, macs are easier to understand and, no matter how many "pimped out" computers you have seen, macs are simply better looking/seem more like a product than a pieced together monstrosity. Having said this, I own several PC's due to the fact that I have grown up with them, they are easier to upgrade, and I enjoy building my own. Honestly, I don't know what your point is, and frankly, I don't really care, but here's my two cents just the same.
 
cr3do said:
ok lemme rephrase myself (for the third time, im starting to feel like I have to resort to big caps letters in order for people to actually understand.
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Work machine? LOL. Work machine my ASS. It's whatever you want it to be, just like a desktop PC.
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What you people really dont understand (or maybe your just to lazy to read the page before and actually try to understand it , I dont know) is that this whole thing started as a debate on how a imac g5 is more worth it in product/price wise as the g5 tower. The arguement he is trying to make is, that the expadibility is what makes it more worth it, and what im trying to tell him is that in reality macs IN A MAJORITY(sorry i had to make it so big but reallyyou people tend to over look stuff like that) aren't really over expanded the way that PC's are. So now the point i am trying to make is that macs IN A MAJORITY are work machines and most of them are used in a INDUSTRY ENVIORNMENT Of course you can use a mac as a personal computer. I just dont understand why people would go through the agony of random application closings lack of games and paying ridiculously prices for a computer that could easily be replaced as a much cheaper much more efficiant and much more reliable pc. However not saying macs aren't good machines , but I am saying the reason mac hasn't died yet (other then the fact microsoft funds them so they dont file for bankruptcy) is because of the graphic/web/multimedia INDUSTRY, that uses them. Thus me making my point that a mac is used as a work machine much more then a personal computer IN THE MAJORITY OF THE CASES not all, the majority.
(and im eagerly waiting what screwball as some smart ass remark to make because they have nothing better to do with there lives but to irritate people)
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90% wrong. Including my original argument. Would you care to go back and try again, or do you want me to rip your entire post to shreds pointing out the errors, inconsistancies, and mistakes that you made in analyzing mine (and many other) posts that you're arguing against? I'd recommend trying again. Start at the quote at the top of your post, and think about what I was saying (don't read into it).
 
No I'd like to see where im 90% wrong cause I know for a fact that everything I said is right. So go ahead try i guarentee any argument you feel you can come up with i can shred to pieces myself cause in this subject I know what im talking about
 
Please don't force me to override the text size settings and formatting for [H]F, Cr3do...

I won't even bother reading that post. Just looking at it gave me a headache.


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Actually, I read it (sue me). Now it's time to tear your arguments to bits! Yay!


--- and what im trying to tell him is that in reality macs IN A MAJORITY(sorry i had to make it so big but reallyyou people tend to over look stuff like that) aren't really over expanded the way that PC's are

Wrong. What x86 computer can be upgraded from a single 500MHz processor to two 1.52GHz processors, for instance? PowerMacs are really quite upgradable, especially the G4s. The G5s can't be upgraded as much, at least not yet, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone manages to construct upgrade kits for them, and such...

Graphics, hard drives, RAM, fans, power supply, PCI-cards, etc, are all just as replaceble as in any "PC". (Quationmarks because Macs are also PCs, in a sense. "PC" in this post means "x86 computer")

Portables and i/eMacs aren't nearly as upgradable, of course, but neither are similar PCs.


--- So now the point i am trying to make is that macs IN A MAJORITY are work machines and most of them are used in a INDUSTRY ENVIORNMENT

Most computers are probably in use at workplaces and schools. The Mac can do anything you like, just like a "PC" can. To call it a "work computer" isn't entirely correct.



--- Of course you can use a mac as a personal computer. I just dont understand why people would go through the agony of random application closings lack of games and paying ridiculously prices for a computer that could easily be replaced as a much cheaper much more efficiant and much more reliable pc

I thought trolling was frowned upon here... But I'll respond anyway.

Random applications closing, as opposed to the entire computer crashing? Yes, I know, a good Windows install is really quite stable, but so is a good Mac OS X install. Applications never crash randomly for me, unless they're beta versions and such, and they crash for any platform...

I have a GameCube, and WC3 is available for Mac. What more could I want? Not everyone is a "gamer".

The price can be debated.

It couldn't "easily be replaced" by a "much more efficiant and reliable PC". First of all, many of the things I like to do with my computer, can only be done in Mac OS X. Second, what the hell kind of logic do you use to think a "PC" is more efficiant and reliable? I prefer Mac because it is more efficient (for me and what I do, of course). I need to spend less time tricking the computer to do what I want, and more time being "productive", doing what I want.


--- other then the fact microsoft funds them so they dont file for bankruptcy

Yes, of course. Apple is only in business because Microsoft pays them. :rolleyes:

Sheesh...

--- but I am saying the reason mac hasn't died yet is because of the graphic/web/multimedia INDUSTRY, that uses them

That's also incorrect. There are plenty of non-designers/DPs who use Macs, including as home computers. Yes, Macs are big in that world, but they're not nonexistant in any other world. Apple wouldn't suddenly go belly-up if the newspaper and movie industries suddenly abandoned them.


:rolleyes:
 
lol...I missed the "other then the fact microsoft funds them so they dont file for bankruptcy" crap...hhuummm...Apple has several BILLION as in $X,000,000,000 in CASH, carries NO debt, owns most (90%) of the buildings they use, have increased stock prices in the last 2 years from $15/share to $47/share and are posting record profits....yep...M$ is funding Apple HA
 
cr3do said:
No I'd like to see where im 90% wrong cause I know for a fact that everything I said is right. So go ahead try i guarentee any argument you feel you can come up with i can shred to pieces myself cause in this subject I know what im talking about
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Impossible. You quoted me, and then totally missed the point of the post. Thus this, and the previous post, have at LEAST that wrong. I'll pick it apart later, it's gonna be a long post and I don't have time now.

To writ, though, you might want to check the number of computers in industry, education, and home use, and then compare to your numbers.

Also the fact that OSX, being based on unix, is far more stable in many cases than windows is, especially in the long term (see anand's review). And games are not normally a priority for most people.

There's more. it's coming later.
 
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