Power supply shortage forced my hand...

VirtualMirage

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So...I am piecing together a new computer build with a custom water loop and I have pretty much all my components except for a power supply, reservoir, and pump. Since the case is "fairly" small, a Fractal Design Node 804 mATX case, I need to get the power supply in to determine what kind of reservoir and pump I will be able to squeeze into it.

Back in July I placed an order for a Seasonic Prime 850TX Titanium PSU, but it was on backorder. The seller states that fulfillment of backorders takes about 10-30 days. Well, I am approaching the 30 day mark with no informative updates from the seller. Today, I even started to see some sites mention similar power supplies (which are built by Seasonic) won't be in stock until October. Ugh...This was not making me feel good about it and risk waiting sitting on parts that will fall outside their return/exchange window if I have a defect. So I saw that they had a Corsair AX1000 Titanium (which is a Seasonic build as well) power supply in stock which, of course, costs more. So I mulled it over and over then finally decided to spend a little more to get the Corsair AX1000 before they went out of stock, knowing I will get it within the week versus still sitting on the unknown of the 850TX.

I know the 1000w PSU will be overkill for my needs, but I felt I couldn't go any less than 850w in preparation of the Nvidia RTX 3xxx series coming out (I'd like to get my hands on that 3090 if possible). On that same note, I wanted a very efficient power supply since I leave my PC running 24/7, so there are quite a few hours in the day where it will be idling at a low wattage. So essentially, I needed a PSU that was very efficient on the low side for the energy savings while being able to deliver stable high peak power when maxing out. I did try and look at the Platinum models as well, but many of the good ones are out of stock, and to get a decent low power efficiency you need to size those up closer to your actual needs than what the Titaniums are capable of. For me, a quality PSU is a must. It's the heart of your system and a good quality unit goes a long way in ensuring a long, healthy lifespan of the rest of your hardware (and a decent UPS to go with it).

For those curious, this is what I plan to build to replace the current system that is in my signature:
Fractal Design Node 804 Case
Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Impact mDTX Motherboard
AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT (to hold me over until the Zen 3s are released)
32GB (16GBx2) G.Skill Trident Z New DDR4 3600 (16-16-16-36) Memory
Seagate FireCuda 520 2TB PCIe Gen4 x4 NVMe SSD (x 2)
Seagate FireCuda 120 4TB SATA3 SSD (x 1)
Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SATA3 SSD (x 1, coming out of my current build)
Corsair Performance Pro 256GB SATA3 SSD (x1, coming out of my current build)
Nvidia GTX 1080 FE Graphics Card (until the RTX 3xxx series gets released)

Cooling will be via:
Corsair XR7 240mm x 54mm Radiator (x 2) going in the top of the case running in parallel
Be Quiet! Silent Wings 3 HS 120mm Fans (x 4 for the radiators, possibly more for rest of the case)
Optimus Foundation CPU Block for AMD
Primochill Primoflex 10/13 tubing (White)
Fittings, etc. (Primarily Corsair Hydro X fittings in black, which are really just Bitspower fittings without the logo)

The theme I am thinking of is primarily black and white. It'll be my Beetlejuice.

This is my everyday PC. Aside from the typical daily duties, it is also used for doing Lightroom/Photoshop with some pretty large photos, gaming in 4K, and playing VR on my Valve Index.
 

jlewis02

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Will be a beast when 30XX come out.
I canceled my order on newegg for a psu recently because it had been 30+ days backorder already.
That psu will work fine for 30XX I would hope anyway they do seem to be power hungry but we will see.
 
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mls1995

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I've never regretted buying a more powerful power supply than I needed. You'll get a lot of people here telling you to go as low as you can but I like knowing I have more wiggle room in case I ever need to change my build and add more thirsty components.
 

WackyWRZ

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This PS shortage (and other components really) has been a giant PITA. I got super lucky and found my EVGA 650 P2 mis-titled on eBay and ending at an odd hour for $45 NIB.
 

VirtualMirage

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I've never regretted buying a more powerful power supply than I needed. You'll get a lot of people here telling you to go as low as you can but I like knowing I have more wiggle room in case I ever need to change my build and add more thirsty components.
I normally, wouldn't either. But seeing as my build as it stands isn't cheap and some parts have been slowly increasing in price, it was just a little bitter sweet to have to shell out an extra $40 over the power supply I originally wanted which was already costing more than it did before this whole pandemic. It's the nickel and dime scenario.
 

Ready4Dis

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So...I am piecing together a new computer build with a custom water loop and I have pretty much all my components except for a power supply, reservoir, and pump. Since the case is "fairly" small, a Fractal Design Node 804 mATX case, I need to get the power supply in to determine what kind of reservoir and pump I will be able to squeeze into it.

Back in July I placed an order for a Seasonic Prime 850TX Titanium PSU, but it was on backorder. The seller states that fulfillment of backorders takes about 10-30 days. Well, I am approaching the 30 day mark with no informative updates from the seller. Today, I even started to see some sites mention similar power supplies (which are built by Seasonic) won't be in stock until October. Ugh...This was not making me feel good about it and risk waiting sitting on parts that will fall outside their return/exchange window if I have a defect. So I saw that they had a Corsair AX1000 Titanium (which is a Seasonic build as well) power supply in stock which, of course, costs more. So I mulled it over and over then finally decided to spend a little more to get the Corsair AX1000 before they went out of stock, knowing I will get it within the week versus still sitting on the unknown of the 850TX.

I know the 1000w PSU will be overkill for my needs, but I felt I couldn't go any less than 850w in preparation of the Nvidia RTX 3xxx series coming out (I'd like to get my hands on that 3090 if possible). On that same note, I wanted a very efficient power supply since I leave my PC running 24/7, so there are quite a few hours in the day where it will be idling at a low wattage. So essentially, I needed a PSU that was very efficient on the low side for the energy savings while being able to deliver stable high peak power when maxing out. I did try and look at the Platinum models as well, but many of the good ones are out of stock, and to get a decent low power efficiency you need to size those up closer to your actual needs than what the Titaniums are capable of. For me, a quality PSU is a must. It's the heart of your system and a good quality unit goes a long way in ensuring a long, healthy lifespan of the rest of your hardware (and a decent UPS to go with it).

You could pick up an 850-1000 watt XFX.. they are designed by seasonic. I have an 850w and a 1200w XFX both were basically designed by seasonic (at least the power supply portion, I'm sure XFX used their own fans and stuff).

"We know that Seasonic are the manufacturer behind this design so we have high hopes for a quality power supply today." - Just an example to show that it's seasonic, this PSU isn't modular and for a nice build I'd go modular or at the very least semi modular.
https://www.kitguru.net/components/...fx-pro-series-850w-power-supply-review/all/1/

"XFX cooperates closely with Seasonic for its PSU products. That's a major advantage, since Seasonic is a top OEM." - This is a fully modular 850w, this isn't their top of line though, just another example, i'd check out their XTS line or even their new XTI but I dont' know much abou them.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/xfx-xtr-850-gold-psu,4581.html

I'm sure there are others as well, hopefully a few others will chime in and give you some other options. Heck, my ITX which could never be able to fit the 3090 runs a 1000w EVGA Supernova G3, lol. I have 6 desktops, my smallest PSU is 850w. I have ONE offbrand in my house and it's a PC I threw together for my sons friend that is having some home issues and staying with us and needs to do online school. That was out of necessity but I try to avoid them as well. I have had good luck in general though wtih XFX, Rosewill, and EVGA. I haven't used any other brands as that's what I have found when looking and since they all function for years it's not like I switch up PSU's often.
 

VirtualMirage

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You could pick up an 850-1000 watt XFX.. they are designed by seasonic. I have an 850w and a 1200w XFX both were basically designed by seasonic (at least the power supply portion, I'm sure XFX used their own fans and stuff).

"We know that Seasonic are the manufacturer behind this design so we have high hopes for a quality power supply today." - Just an example to show that it's seasonic, this PSU isn't modular and for a nice build I'd go modular or at the very least semi modular.
https://www.kitguru.net/components/...fx-pro-series-850w-power-supply-review/all/1/

"XFX cooperates closely with Seasonic for its PSU products. That's a major advantage, since Seasonic is a top OEM." - This is a fully modular 850w, this isn't their top of line though, just another example, i'd check out their XTS line or even their new XTI but I dont' know much abou them.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/xfx-xtr-850-gold-psu,4581.html

I'm sure there are others as well, hopefully a few others will chime in and give you some other options. Heck, my ITX which could never be able to fit the 3090 runs a 1000w EVGA Supernova G3, lol. I have 6 desktops, my smallest PSU is 850w. I have ONE offbrand in my house and it's a PC I threw together for my sons friend that is having some home issues and staying with us and needs to do online school. That was out of necessity but I try to avoid them as well. I have had good luck in general though wtih XFX, Rosewill, and EVGA. I haven't used any other brands as that's what I have found when looking and since they all function for years it's not like I switch up PSU's often.
XFX is still around in the US?

For me, they started to disappear from the limelight when they went to AMD only graphics cards. I used to have a XFX Black card from them years ago, it was a good card. I never see any of their products show up anymore.

As for power supplies, they never showed up in any of my searches. At first, my requirements were 850w Titanium, which I see that XFX doesn't offer. I then looked at 1000w Titanium, which I see XFX does have but none of their products showed up at any of the sites I purchase from. I then started to relax my requirements and look at some Platinum models but, again, pickings were slim and I didn't see any XFX models pop up then either. The links you referred to were for gold models, which I wasn't even both looking at for my needs. I wasn't specifically narrowing my searches to just Seasonic, I was mainly looking at just 850-1000w Titanium models (which most so happen to be made by Seasonic). At the end of the day, supply is tight on these higher end power supplies.

Meanwhile, my Corsair AX1000 (a Seasonic build and a Titanium) will be arriving tomorrow.
 

Ready4Dis

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Sounds good, just trying to offer options, didn't know exactly what you were looking for. Glad you found something, can be frustrating I know!
I have a few XFX things around, but they aren't as "around" as they used to be as you noted.
 

Sparky

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Been trying to find
SSR-850TR
Seasonic for my build but cant find any. I found 1 at 2.5x price.
 

Light1984

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I'm in the same boat. Wound up "settling" for a focus gx-1000 vs the prime tx-1000. Think I got lucky with the focus gx-1000 for $170 at Newegg. Like others have said, if you find something, it's typically price gouged beyond comprehension.
 

Blackstone

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I don’t understand I just ordered the Prime TX-850 from Newegg, third party seller ICI Store. It said in stock. Newegg itself was out of stock. What is the problem?
 

Light1984

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I don’t understand I just ordered the Prime TX-850 from Newegg, third party seller ICI Store. It said in stock. Newegg itself was out of stock. What is the problem?

Because the third party sellers typically price gouge pretty bad, are shipped from China, or both. If you got a good deal, congrats.
 
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