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Power Supply question

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Mabrito

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I am planning on ordering a Sapphire X800GTO2 soon. I just posted this in the video card forum, asking if my power supply will be enough to power my system. Douglite said no, and if I have further questions reguarding my power supply, ask here, so here I am naturally lol.

My Specs are the following:
+5V @ 25A
+3.3V @ 18A
+5VSB 2A
+12V @ 19A
-12V @ .8A

Then it says the following:

+5V and +3.3V shall not exceed 175W
+5V and +12V shall not exceed 268W

Max Output Power 300W

Why wont this be adequete power to my system? Alot of the X800 series require only 300 watts, blah blah blah. Im a power supply noob, so can someone please elaborate what will go wrong, why it isnt good enough and etc.
 
Yes it is a HP OEM with the orginal PSU. And the thing is, is that I really cant get a better one, because there is hardly any room in my case to get a better one to fit.
 
This might or might not help:
If you own an HP, Gateway, Compaq, Dell or Emachine: This is how to find-out what PS is probably inside.
This link was found by "Monty" who also created my avatar & signature, Thanks, Monty!
http://www.power-on.com/index.html
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Best advice is build a new system & salvage what you can.
OEM's are not designed with user upgrading in mind. :(
 
davidhammock200 said:
This might or might not help: Best advice is build a new system & salvage what you can.
OEM's are not designed with user upgrading in mind. :(
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WOW thanks for the help :rolleyes: Is it really that hard to ask a question around here about my HP without someone saying build my own computer. I had my reasons why I brought this HP instead of building. If you really want to know why, PM me and be glad to explain why.

Anyways, I looked inside my computer today to find out who makes it. It is by Hipro with the specs I posted above. All I need to know, will this power a X800 GTO 2
 
Lazy_Moron said:
WOW thanks for the help :rolleyes: Is it really that hard to ask a question around here about my HP without someone saying build my own computer. I had my reasons why I brought this HP instead of building. If you really want to know why, PM me and be glad to explain why.

Anyways, I looked inside my computer today to find out who makes it. It is by Hipro with the specs I posted above. All I need to know, will this power a X800 GTO 2
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No way to find out, except to try. :(
 
Anyone?

I really dont care that it isnt a name brand or anything, I just need a cheap solution!!!
 
Spectre said:
How cheap?
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Budget is $200 and the card is $173. What ever is left over from that.

Or should I chance it with the PSU I have now. I dont see a PCI-Express Power cable on it, so it looks like it gets its power solely from the PCI-Express slot.
 
Lazy_Moron said:
Budget is $200 and the card is $173. What ever is left over from that.
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Oh...wow that is tight. Can you give me the specs of your PC so I can see if there is a chance that the PSU it came with will work?
 
Spectre said:
Oh...wow that is tight. Can you give me the specs of your PC so I can see if there is a chance that the PSU it came with will work?
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Yes it is tight lol. For my specs, look at my first post lol. Those are the specs to my PSU, and the rest of my specs are in my sig. But I will list them here just to nice and save you the clicking and scrolling:

PSU is the following:
Manufactor is Hipro

+5V @ 25A
+3.3V @ 18A
+5VSB 2A
+12V @ 19A
-12V @ .8A

Then it says the following:

+5V and +3.3V shall not exceed 175W
+5V and +12V shall not exceed 268W

Max Output Power 300W

System is the following:

Intel 520 2.8GHz Processor
Asus mATX mobo(came with this HP computer)
512 x 2 Corsair Value Select ram
256 x 2 Infineon ram(also came with this HP computer)
Maxtor 6L200MO 200 Gig Hard Drive
Asus CD-Rom Drive
Lite-On DVD+RW Drive
Sapphire X600 Pro(hopefully will the the GTO soon)
 
I'm sorry to say this, but you're better off sticking with your current X600 Pro card - and not upgrading your video card at all - at this point. You see, at your $200 price limit for both a new graphics card and a new PSU combined, your current PSU cannot handle much more than what's already in your current setup - and a new $30 PSU would likely be a significant downgrade from your current OEM PSU. You will have to spend at least three times as much as whatever you have left over just for a PSU that can handle even the least powerful X800 series card (which means you will have to spend at least $90 for the PSU alone).

What's more, an X800 series card will draw a lot more current from the +12V rail than any X600 series card - in fact, most native PCI-Express cards will draw at least as much +12V current as any AGP card (your current "PCI-Express" X600 is not a native PCI-e part, but an AGP part that's bridged to PCI-e).

In your case, I'd either do what I said in the first paragraph, or increase your total maximum budget to at least $250 for the graphics card plus PSU combined.
 
Lazy_Moron said:
Yes it is tight lol. For my specs, look at my first post lol. Those are the specs to my PSU, and the rest of my specs are in my sig. But I will list them here just to nice and save you the clicking and scrolling:

PSU is the following:
Manufactor is Hipro

+5V @ 25A
+3.3V @ 18A
+5VSB 2A
+12V @ 19A
-12V @ .8A

Then it says the following:

+5V and +3.3V shall not exceed 175W
+5V and +12V shall not exceed 268W

Max Output Power 300W

System is the following:

Intel 520 2.8GHz Processor
Asus mATX mobo(came with this HP computer)
512 x 2 Corsair Value Select ram
256 x 2 Infineon ram(also came with this HP computer)
Maxtor 6L200MO 200 Gig Hard Drive
Asus CD-Rom Drive
Lite-On DVD+RW Drive
Sapphire X600 Pro(hopefully will the the GTO soon)
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Sorry so many people ask about comp's that arent in their sig I just ask first rather than assume.

Ok so after running hte numbers the worst case draw (minus the videocard) looks like 15 amps on the 12v. So you would be ohhhh....so close upping to the x800GTO. I would say since you are so tight wait. It may......may.....work. If it does it will be close though so you will want ot save some cash to snag another PSU ASAP. If you have any stability issues/nonbooting etc.....come back and I will keep an eye out for something.
 
Spectre said:
Sorry so many people ask about comp's that arent in their sig I just ask first rather than assume.

Ok so after running hte numbers the worst case draw (minus the videocard) looks like 15 amps on the 12v. So you would be ohhhh....so close upping to the x800GTO. I would say since you are so tight wait. It may......may.....work. If it does it will be close though so you will want ot save some cash to snag another PSU ASAP. If you have any stability issues/nonbooting etc.....come back and I will keep an eye out for something.
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Ah damn. Tough choice, wait to get more money I can PUT to this fund, which can be months or take a chance.
 
Lazy_Moron said:
Ah damn. Tough choice, wait to get more money I can PUT to this fund, which can be months or take a chance.
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Well if you keep your other card you can fall back to it. I have a 600w Ultra sitting here that would work. Let me get ahold of jonnyGURU and I'll see about selling it.
 
Spectre said:
Well if you keep your other card you can fall back to it. I have a 600w Ultra sitting here that would work. Let me get ahold of jonnyGURU and I'll see about selling it.
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Yeah that what I was thinking. I buy the card now, if it works, it works. If it doesnt, I fall back to my X600 for now, and after christmas, when I would finally have some spare money to spend, buy my a good power supply.
 
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