Please recommend me a 22-24" LCD

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Vaporz

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I've had this Dell M992 19" CRT for 3 years now, and feel it's time to get a bigger, better, easier-on-the-eyes LCD. System specs are in my signature. I'll be using it primarily for games and watching videos, in addition to the usual everyday stuff.

I've read up on the different LCD technologies, but it seems to mostly be a choice between 22" and 24", and finding one without ghosting and with pretty good image quality and colors. How well you can watch from other angels than straight-on doesn't really matter. Currently there's no such thing as HDTV content here in Norway (we're still using analog TV), though eventually I might get a HD-DVD/Blu-ray player. I don't plan on getting a PS3 or Xbox360, but mayhap I'll buy a Wii. To get to the point, input possibilities probably wont matter much.

Judging by threads here on [H] and reviews, I think it's boiling down to the Dell E228WFP or Samsung 226BW (I'll have to make sure I get the S model though). They seem to be excellent for gaming/movies, with a low latency and good image quality (though I might not even notice the difference).

Any other brands (BenQ, NEC?) you recommend instead for my use? I'll probably end up using this screen for as long as my current CRT, which does make a 24" tempting, and my 8800GTS would be put to good use...

Are there any differences in how well the various screens downscale for older games and such? Reviewers don't seem to care much about that.
And do the various 24" screens have noticable ghosting compared to the 22" ones with lower latency?

Any other brands (BenQ, NEC?) you recommend instead for my use? I'll probably end up using this screen for as long as my current CRT, which does make the 24" tempting, and my 8800GTS would be put to good use...

Is there going to be a drastic change in the LCD market in the near future that makes it worth the wait?


Any replies appreciated.


1 NOK = ~6.0 USD

Dell's reduced the price on most of their LCDs to the end of the month (yesterday it was just for a few ones):
Dell E228WFP 22" - 3035 NOK = 500 USD
Dell 2407WFP 24" - 6450 NOK = 1055 USD (1400 USD yesterday)
I can pick up the Samsung 226BW for approx. 3400 NOK = 560 USD.
Other brands seem to have similar prices.
 
Vaporz said:
I've had this Dell M992 19" CRT for 3 years now, and feel it's time to get a bigger, better, easier-on-the-eyes LCD. System specs are in my signature. I'll be using it primarily for games and watching videos, in addition to the usual everyday stuff.

I've read up on the different LCD technologies, but it seems to mostly be a choice between 22" and 24", and finding one without ghosting and with pretty good image quality and colors. How well you can watch from other angels than straight-on doesn't really matter. Currently there's no such thing as HDTV content here in Norway (we're still using analog TV), though eventually I might get a HD-DVD/Blu-ray player. I don't plan on getting a PS3 or Xbox360, but mayhap I'll buy a Wii. To get to the point, input possibilities probably wont matter much.

Judging by threads here on [H] and reviews, I think it's boiling down to the Dell E228WFP or Samsung 226BW (I'll have to make sure I get the S model though). They seem to be excellent for gaming/movies, with a low latency and good image quality (though I might not even notice the difference).

Any other brands (BenQ, NEC?) you recommend instead for my use? I'll probably end up using this screen for as long as my current CRT, which does make a 24" tempting, and my 8800GTS would be put to good use...

Are there any differences in how well the various screens downscale for older games and such? Reviewers don't seem to care much about that.
And do the various 24" screens have noticable ghosting compared to the 22" ones with lower latency?

Any other brands (BenQ, NEC?) you recommend instead for my use? I'll probably end up using this screen for as long as my current CRT, which does make the 24" tempting, and my 8800GTS would be put to good use...

Is there going to be a drastic change in the LCD market in the near future that makes it worth the wait?


Any replies appreciated.


1 NOK = ~6.0 USD

Dell's reduced the price on most of their LCDs to the end of the month (yesterday it was just for a few ones):
Dell E228WFP 22" - 3035 NOK = 500 USD
Dell 2407WFP 24" - 6450 NOK = 1055 USD (1400 USD yesterday)
I can pick up the Samsung 226BW for approx. 3400 NOK = 560 USD.
Other brands seem to have similar prices.
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As to the ghosting, Many people here own 2407s and have said nothing about ghosting, but it is relative to how your eye perceives things. Also remember that those 22" TN panels don't produce the same color accuracy and image quality as the larger 24 S-PVA panel does. The 22" is also at 1680x1050 resolution where the 2407 is at 1920x1200, for the 22 the conecern is that this is the resolution of the 2007 and other 20.1 widescreen panels, so it seems ignorant to use it on the 22, other than it would be easy to manufacture.

Personally from looking at your rig, you have a very similar setup to me, but a step up in video card, and a few more hdds.. so it seems like you can afford nice PC equipment.. I'd recommend going with the 2407, there is a big jump from 1680x1050 to 1920x1200 .. I'm personally on the edge of jumping to it myself.. and right now the 2407 is 569$ USD.. maybe try buying one from ebay or something... you wouldn't end up paying that higher price.

EDIT: forgot to answer, yeah theyre going to start manufacturing panels with LED backlights instead of the current technology.. but the first wave will probably be super expensive.. and unfortunately out of your, or my budgets :(
 
Weenis said:
As to the ghosting, Many people here own 2407s and have said nothing about ghosting, but it is relative to how your eye perceives things. Also remember that those 22" TN panels don't produce the same color accuracy and image quality as the larger 24 S-PVA panel does. The 22" is also at 1680x1050 resolution where the 2407 is at 1920x1200, for the 22 the conecern is that this is the resolution of the 2007 and other 20.1 widescreen panels, so it seems ignorant to use it on the 22, other than it would be easy to manufacture.

Personally from looking at your rig, you have a very similar setup to me, but a step up in video card, and a few more hdds.. so it seems like you can afford nice PC equipment.. I'd recommend going with the 2407, there is a big jump from 1680x1050 to 1920x1200 .. I'm personally on the edge of jumping to it myself.. and right now the 2407 is 569$ USD.. maybe try buying one from ebay or something... you wouldn't end up paying that higher price.

EDIT: forgot to answer, yeah theyre going to start manufacturing panels with LED backlights instead of the current technology.. but the first wave will probably be super expensive.. and unfortunately out of your, or my budgets :(
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The more I read, the more tempting the 2407WFP seems. There's another option though, the LG 24" LCD L245WP-BN for 95$ more. How does it compare to the Dell?
 
Weenis said:
EDIT: forgot to answer, yeah theyre going to start manufacturing panels with LED backlights instead of the current technology.. but the first wave will probably be super expensive.. and unfortunately out of your, or my budgets :(
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Those are also going to be quite a ways off, too, right? At least for a few years, I'd say.
 
I'm another happy 2407 owner. My primary uses are watching anime and playing games on the PC and my Xbox 360. I have no noticeable ghosting or gradient issues. Can't beat the resolution, the build quality (for me atleast) has been solid, and the performance (as far as my eyes can percieve) is wonderfull. Plenty of input solutions, built in CF card reader and USB hub, its hard to go wrong.



Damn now i sound like some kind of dell whore. :eek:
 
Chumly said:
Those are also going to be quite a ways off, too, right? At least for a few years, I'd say.
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Before they are mainstream affordable I'd speculate 1-1.5 years after initial release, as with all new technologies.
 
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