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Intel Celeron D 335 2.8 GHz, 533MHz FSB, 256K L2 Cache Processor - Retail


Model# BX80546RE2800C
Item # N82E16819112186
Specifications:
Model: Intel Celeron D
Core: Prescott
Operating Frequency: 2.8GHz
FSB: 533MHz
Cache: L1/12K+16K; L2/256K
Voltage: 0.956V-1.052V
Process: 90 nm
Socket: Socket 478
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
Warranty: 3-year MFG
Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)

OR

Intel Pentium 4/ 2.4A GHz 533MHz FSB, Prescott Core, 1MB L2 Cache - Retail

Model# BX80546PE2400E
Item # N82E16819116178

Specifications:
Model: Intel Pentium 4
Core: Prescott
Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
FSB: 533MHz
Cache: L1/12K+16K, L2/1MB
Socket: Socket 478
Warranty: 3-year MFG
Packaging: Retail (with Heatsink/Fan)


Please understand that price is a MONSTER obstical. The two chips come in at 129$ for the celeron and 124$ for the p4, so it's not that huge an obstical. (newegg.com)

while i'm at it, i was going to include a couple mushkin 512 DDR 3200 and this motherboard:

ASUS "P4P800 SE" i865PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU -RETAIL

Model# P4P800SE
Item # N82E16813131484

Specifications:
Supported CPU: Intel Pentium® 4/Celeron Processors(HT, Prescott Ready)
Chipset: Intel 865PE + ICH5R
FSB: 800/533/400MHz
RAM: 4x DIMM for Dual-Channel DDR400/333/266 Max 4GB(Hyper-Path)
IDE: 2x ATA 100 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI, 1x ASUS Wi-Fi
Ports: 2xPS/2, 1xLPT, 1xCOM, RCA SPDIF Out, 8xUSB2.0(Rear 4), 1xLAN, Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: ADI AD1985 6-Channel Audio
Onboard LAN: Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet
Onboard SATA/RAID: 2 x Serial ATA by ICH5R, RAID 0/1
Form Factor: ATX


I would appreciate any advice. I think I'm making a good choice. I know the MB is a little more than i would need in FSB cap and HT, but i figure that'll give me a quick cheep upgrade in about a year.

Thanks in advance,
 
I read your first sentence and it said celeron, I'm going to be like everyone else at this message board and tell you that Celerons are a really bad idea. And not just a 2.8 or anything just ANY celeron at all. Even if they do provide modest performance, you will get know respect at all with a celeron in your box especially one that you have built yourself.


I would hands down recomend a 2.4 pentium 4 over a celeron. But, if your the type of man that needs his processor to be a budget chip than your going to need to familiarize yourself a little bit with the Athlon XPs.
 
Well the new prescott celerons arent that bad at all, they're up there with Athlon XP's, but because they're the same price, that p4 would be alot better.
 
this is where i'm confused. I see that the p4 has a crapload more L2 cash, and i figure that more than makes up for the slightly slower chip. same core, both have the heat sink and fan... why is the celeron 5 bucks more expensive?

ps: i have amd now, but amd runs hot. I know it sounds stupid, but if i can spend 35 extra bucks to cut the heat i put out by half, i'll spend the money. when we are talking global warming, every little bit helps. I'm still going to heat my house by burning wood, though, so go figgure.
 
cylus_condition said:
this is where i'm confused. I see that the p4 has a crapload more L2 cash, and i figure that more than makes up for the slightly slower chip. same core, both have the heat sink and fan... why is the celeron 5 bucks more expensive?
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Marketing, the celery has a bigger number. :rolleyes:

Definitely go with the Prescott 2.4 and overclock the shit out of it.
 
The new 256KB Celerons aren't bad performers at all. However, the 2.4A looks like a decent overclocker and the big cache is pretty important with the Prescott core. Get the 2.4A.
 
cylus_condition said:
this is where i'm confused. I see that the p4 has a crapload more L2 cash, and i figure that more than makes up for the slightly slower chip. same core, both have the heat sink and fan... why is the celeron 5 bucks more expensive?

ps: i have amd now, but amd runs hot. I know it sounds stupid, but if i can spend 35 extra bucks to cut the heat i put out by half, i'll spend the money. when we are talking global warming, every little bit helps. I'm still going to heat my house by burning wood, though, so go figgure.
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Well if you're looking for a cool chip, I dont think prescott is for you. Prescotts are the hottest CPU's on the market. I'd say the coolest [reasonably powerful] chips are the athlon 64's. Anyone have anything to add?
 
Liam said:
Well if you're looking for a cool chip, I dont think prescott is for you. Prescotts are the hottest CPU's on the market. I'd say the coolest [reasonably powerful] chips are the athlon 64's. Anyone have anything to add?
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The 2.4a and 2.8a prescotts run ALOT cooler than the E versions of the prescott. ;)
 
get a mobile amd.... they don't run hot at all... mine never gets over 45 celcius.. and my cpu fan is usually at 1700 rpm.. but kicks up to 2200 or something like that when i am over 40 degrees...

right now i am running 166 x 8 @ 1.26v ... the cpu is 38 and the board is 36... (but i am just playing around) i normally run it at 2.4ish ghz...

prescotts are hot on the other hand... but they do throttle down if they overheat... where an amd will burn up... (this only really can happen if all overtemp shutdowns are disabled in bios though)
 
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