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Performance doesn't seem right.....

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basher

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with the rig in my sig below, i feel like i'm not getting the performance i expected.

nothing is overclocked, but i still thought it would be running faster, let me elaborate....

ok ok i admit i'm impressed that i can download 7 "dvd" sized files, burn a dvd, extract .rar files and surf the web all while only using ~6% processor but......
this is where i'm disappointed....

when windows starts it takes a very long time to get to a usable part of windows (not much starting on boot up but still takes 3-5 mins) when i open windows or programs it takes 5-10 secs to open. i could be wrong (probably am) but i feel mislead or maybe i don't have something set correctly or maybe my pc might be "bottlenecking" somewhere with data/speed

anyone have any ideas or is this typical??
 
whiskey29 said:
What Bios version ?
Did you installed chipset driver properly ?
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F4

there's a right and wrong way to install them? (thought you just installed them?)
 
your sig says sata 2? do you mean sata 3gb/s? if so did you enable it via the correct jumper settings?
 
and here is the harddrive test
driveow4.jpg
 
Have you defragged the HD? If this doesn't fix it I'd format and install XP again. After that, be sure to install the chipset drivers first, then run Windows Update, then install video and sound card drivers. Be sure to defragment the HD after this. If the problem persists it might be a bad hard drive or motherboard.
 
Do some searching for how to speed up your boot process. Download and run bootvis; take a look at what's starting as windows starts; you'll need something that can identify your startup programs. Check your bios and turn off what you don't need, such as a serial port ect. Diskkeeper has a boottime defrag that is good to defrage the MFT that you should use.

I've noticed the startup times are pretty long as well, but with some tweaking you should definately be able to shave some time down from your 3-5 minutes. If it's really taking 5 minutes you def. have a problem somewhere and it's probably software related.
 
about the chipset drivers, i downloaded the newest 8.1.1.1001
this is what the registry says
regon0.jpg


but the driver in device manager still says the old driver, and the update driver doesn't find the new one,
driveruc8.jpg

keeps says you have the best one
bestdriverfoundae5.jpg


what am i doing wrong, can some one give some advice?

and here is the hard drive test again
first from earlier
driveow4.jpg


and now after new bios f7 update and defrag
afterdefraghn4.jpg
 
You know, I too am having a similar issue. My boot time take over 1 minute with my E6300 @ 3.22GHz using a fresh install of XP. I came from using an A64 3000+ with a boot time of 25 seconds. What the hell :confused: . I've done EVERYTHING this guy has done, but still not fixed. Im just living with it as my games play better then ever.
 
how do you install the chipset drivers, no matter what i try it doesn't seem to work.
 
I just click on the .exe file. I do this of course immediately after a fresh install of XP.
 
how do you know that the drivers are installed. i mean the registry key says it is, but the device manager says it is not installed.
 
I see what your saying, how the drivers DATE stayed the same even after installing the most current ones. I was like WTF, but I know I installed them right, and there wasnt anything else I could do.
 
newls1 said:
I see what your saying, how the drivers DATE stayed the same even after installing the most current ones. I was like WTF, but I know I installed them right, and there wasnt anything else I could do.
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not only the date stayed the same but the driver version is still the same and not the 8.1.1.1001 version?
 
basher said:
how do you know that the drivers are installed. i mean the registry key says it is, but the device manager says it is not installed.
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navigate to c:\program files\intel\ and look in there for the .txt file that will tell you what ver. you are using;
 
The current driver version should read 8.0.0.1010 and is dated 5/16/2006.

When you say it's takes minutes for it to get into XP, does it stall anywhere or is the HD constantly making noise?

Some things you can try is switching memory slots or just use one stick of memory to see if this makes any improvement. In the BIOS, turn off anything you're not using like legacy ports, legacy USB, onboard sound (someone on Anandtech reported long boot times using it), etc. Make sure the hard drive is running in IDE compatibility mode as well.
 
I don't think you can install the chipset drivers over the old ones.

I THINK you need to uninstall the old ones, possibly in safe mode, then install the new ones & reboot.

Thats why I make sure to download the latest drivers, etc... before I do an install, an put the newest ones on first.
 
How much junk is starting up on your computer at boot up time?

I like to use Autoruns which finds everything.

http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Autoruns.html

If you can't find anything suspicious in there then a slow boot up process is often times a network related problem. You might want to try disabling your network card(s) and starting up with no network to troubleshoot.
 
unclewebb said:
How much junk is starting up on your computer at boot up time?

I like to use Autoruns which finds everything.

http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Autoruns.html

If you can't find anything suspicious in there then a slow boot up process is often times a network related problem. You might want to try disabling your network card(s) and starting up with no network to troubleshoot.
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Yeah, I disable the firewire network adapter, and anything else besides the LAN adapter I'm using.

Also, did you install the raid drivers? I've seen where people who installed the raid drivers, but didn't have raid installed were having problems. IDE / SATA mode problem, etc.. ?
 
dark_reign said:
The current driver version should read 8.0.0.1010 and is dated 5/16/2006.

When you say it's takes minutes for it to get into XP, does it stall anywhere or is the HD constantly making noise?

Some things you can try is switching memory slots or just use one stick of memory to see if this makes any improvement. In the BIOS, turn off anything you're not using like legacy ports, legacy USB, onboard sound (someone on Anandtech reported long boot times using it), etc. Make sure the hard drive is running in IDE compatibility mode as well.
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when you say switch memory, i'm running the ddr2 800mhz in dual channel, is that better than standard put in or would that slow me down any? or i need something else for the dual channel mode?
 
I am having the same issues as you basher. My AMD64 3000+ seemed alot more peppy than this system. It is very frustrating, so if you find a solution please let me know.

Specs
Abit AW9D
C2D 6600 (stock at the moment)
G. Skill PC2 6400
Nvidia 7950GT
 
basher said:
when you say switch memory, i'm running the ddr2 800mhz in dual channel, is that better than standard put in or would that slow me down any? or i need something else for the dual channel mode?
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No. You want to run it in dual-channel mode. I meant moving them to channel "B".
 
I had an issue when I was first installing everything. I installed an older version of ZoneAlarm that I had saved on a CD from quite some time ago. Anyway, immediately after I installed it, I noticed my boot time double or tripled. So I uninstalled it, downloaded the latest version, then installed it, and it fixed the problem. Granted it still boots slower than no 3rd party firewall, but I don't trust windows firewall at all. (thats why its one of the first things I do.... install 3rd party & disable it)
 
is there a test of benchmark to run that would let me know if the performance is there, maybe i'm just bottle-necked somewhere and be able to find out where i'm loosing performance at?

i've ran 3dmark06 and my first score was 5529
 
You could run SiSoft Sandra 2007. You can use it to compare your system config with others.
 
Have you checked to make sure your BIOS is configuring your RAM speed correctly? Assuming you haven't manually configured it of course. Does it read 400mhz on the POST screen?

Also, install driver cleaner pro. Uninstall the chipset drivers, jump into safe mode and run Driver Cleaner Pro for your Chipset drivers. Once it's deleted the left behind entries, boot back up into XP and install the most current chipset drivers. Download them from Gigabyte's website.
 
Your hard drive is fine...

Most likely you were probably expecting too much... get rid of the funky programs...
 
run these tests:
3dMark 2001
3dMark 2006 (report total score & CPU score)
sisoft memory benchmark
Super PI 1m

Then compare them to similar systems.

I think your main problem is you need to overclock it. EVERYONE has their Core 2 systems overclocked!
 
this is the first benchmark i did
1stbenchmarkdt5.jpg


this is a benchmark after i did a little oc
overclockeddt1.jpg


is this acceptable or should it be better?
 
jnick said:
Have you checked to make sure your BIOS is configuring your RAM speed correctly? Assuming you haven't manually configured it of course. Does it read 400mhz on the POST screen?

Also, install driver cleaner pro. Uninstall the chipset drivers, jump into safe mode and run Driver Cleaner Pro for your Chipset drivers. Once it's deleted the left behind entries, boot back up into XP and install the most current chipset drivers. Download them from Gigabyte's website.
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for the chipset, on driver cleaner pro (v1.5 i think) i'm not seeing any intel drivers to select to remove just intel extreme, ideas?
 
Disable everything you don't use in your BIOS...then read some tweak guides. Windows is very slow by default, for things such as boot and menu pop ups. Also disable indexing on your harddrives, I know very few people who need to search for files(Remember where you save stuff, prioritize folders and such).
 
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