pentium 4 still alive

The Netburst architecture was designed by the marketing department of Intel. It was their way to win the MHz race. They never quite got those 5 GHz CPUs, though, as leakage went through the roof with later revisions. The Netburst design has an insanely long pipeline (~32 stages, vs ~16 for the K7 and PIII), meaning lots of stalls and pipeline flushing. Only its insanely high operating frequency managed to save it from its own lacking design by brute-forcing things. It was not an elegant, subtle, well-designed or or very scalable design, hence it isn't so strange that no trace of it is left in current Intel designs.

It's not so strange to see lots of P4 systems still in use, though. The P4 was launched at the beginning of the 1+ GHz era, which basically is still fast enough for most people, especially at schools and businesses where those systems do little more than allow people to work on text documents and the occasional picture.

As for Atom, Atom is a bit PII/PIII-ish, although it also lacks some important parts of those cores, most notably the out-of-order unit. This to save die space and cut down power usage. Of course, it also reduces performance significantly. They'd have done better to cut out the x86 instruction uOPs decoding unit, as it's one of the largest modules of Atom. I'd still take a Cortex-9-based system over an Atom-based one.
 
Fail in what way? From the time the Northwood core was released in early 2002 for about 2 years afterward, if you wanted to build a gaming rig with the very fastest processor, that processor was a Pentium 4. At that time, chips like the 1.6a or the 2.0a were cheap and very overclockable.



By later in 2002 people were getting P4 2.4's and overclocking them to 3.0+ on a regular basis, AMD didn't have anything that could compete for a good year or more until the Athlon 64 was released. Even then the P4 was no slouch and most agreed that a HT P4 retained a multi-tasking advantage until the Athlon X2 was released.

Right. The P4 at 3.0GHz allowed us to play Doom 3 decently with a 6800GT! hahaha... Doom 3 was the Crysis back then and until AMD came out with the Athlon 64 x2, there wasn't much worth upgrading to a the time.

The only issue with the P4 was the long pipeline that was used to allow it to clock high. The true IPC of the P4 vs. current cpu designs made it highly inefficient. But hey it's history now no?
 
I still have several P4 systems running every day without issues.

- a couple with Ebay purchased inexpensive 3.4 EE Gallatins o/ced to 3.891 (FSB 225, stock vcore) with Coolit Freezone Elites cpu coolers and Mushkin Redline 2 GB XP4000 @ 2/3/2/5 1:1.
- one with a great old 30 cap 2.4C o/ced to 3.3 (stock vcore) with Mushkin Redline 2 GB XP4000 3/4/4/8 1:1 with a Coolit Pure cpu cooler
- and one 3.4 at stock 2/3/2/5 1:1 with a Thermalright XP90cu cpu cooler

all with Radeon 3850 AGP video cards and either a ASUS P4C800-E deluxe or DFI Lanparty Pro875 Rev. b motherboard.

All still game daily, the Gallatins provide a better great gaming experience with today's titles.

For my work as a patent searcher, the Gallatins are more than adequate.

I7 in future, for sure, but not right now.
 
Hell, slapped an HD 3850 AGP card on a P4 3.2ghz machine with 2gb ram last year for CoD4 lan gaming on high detail @ 1280x1024 and th eCPU didn't do bad at all. About 8 months before that I upgraded my parents 3ghz P4 HP to 2gb ram with an HD 2600 Pro AGP card and it played Crysis on low-mid detail with no AA @1280x1024 and the game was playable ( even during the end ).

The P4 is still a capable CPU for prob 90% of all PC users in the world although I'd still rather have an Athlon XP 3200+ rig over any non LGA775 P4 rig.
 
With RAM being cheap, I maxed out my P4 3.2G with 4GB. Still a nice PC for surfing and other light duty stuffs :D
 
Its actually funny how most of our stuff out there is based on architecture from the p2/p3 days then the p4.

late PIII chips were faster then early P4s wasnt till the P4 had much higher clocks that it pulled a head

PIII was a great CPU and the Core and Core 2 share more with it then the P4
i7 is a whole new animal
 
I run a p4 3.06ghz w/ HT in the other room, my mom's pc, runs great! It's about 8 years old now I think. Also have some other pentiums in the family.
 
i know p4'w were not the best. but i always had a thing with HT. i know it sounds bad but its cool how they did it to p4's and then made HT look like a super star with the I7's

HT was a bandaid for idle execution cores P4 was too deep for its own good sure you ramp the clocks up but then intel found out it didnt go nearly as high as hoped and topped out at 4.0
P4 was supposed to clock to 10Ghz that didnt happen
 
Never had a P4 believe it or not. I had P3 throughout highschool (Dell XPS B1000, cost $6.5k with an Eizo L66 -.-"). Then went straight to a Core 2 Duo for college.
 
my workplace has a common PC.

Windows 2000 Professional with unknown SP, Pentium 4 1.7GHz, 1GB RAM. It's incredibly slow, probably infected with malware or heavily fragmented.
 
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