Peltier Cooling

[viperdv2k4]

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[jinu117]

Hey, have a swiftech storm waterblock and i was thinking about peltier cooling my cpu. Can i put the waterblock on the peltier? Im kinda noobish with peltier cooling . Also , i have a seperate Thermaltake Purepower 410W, can i use it to power the peltier? Do you have any suggestions for peltiers? Also, what happens with condentation and how do u protect against it?
Thanks

1) Storm is not best design for peltier cooling to be honest with you. It is supposed to cool middle of chip well, while peltier should be cooled evenly across entire surface well.
Selling storm and getting professionally made peltier block will do you good.

2) PSU's 12V rail will decide how much it can power. Anything less than 200W peltier is not going to work on CPU to be honest and that is power draw... (meaning about 18A or so) Maybe the PSU can handle maybe not.

3) Above mentioned 200W rating is based on Peltier's optimal voltage of operation which is around 15v or 24v. Standard PSU won't play in this voltage obviously and efficiency drops significantly using 12v on the unit. You can expect about 120W worth of cooling from peltier. Anything more than that peltier starts acting as insulator. 120W is pretty mild overclocking for such extreme cooling in general. either you can get bigger peltier unit that draws more amps, or higher voltage specific PSU that will power the peltier up at higher capacity.

4) Peltier do generate massive heat. Your waterloop must be prepared to handle the heat (radiator especially) Water loop's temperature will decide the temperature of cold plate directly.

It definitely is fun toy and you can find about insulation in swiftech store for manual on their peltier kits, Danger Den, or general idea from any of vapor phase change systems. As for efficiency, this is actually worst way to cooling though

 

[fore1337]

It definitely is fun toy and you can find about insulation in swiftech store for manual on their peltier kits, Danger Den, or general idea from any of vapor phase change systems. As for efficiency, this is actually worst way to cooling though

Jinu I want to bastardize my V2000 to look like yours. Where did you get your phaze change kit? Is that thing a vapochill or a home brew job?

Viper, if you're getting into TEC you should look into the blocks which don't use 'jet-impengent" nozzles. You need something like a maze-4 that slowly distributes the water over the entire block in order to properly utilize the TEC.
edit: or get one of these: Wintsch Labs Arctic Web Liquid Cooled 437Watt Thermoelectric Assembly

I was posting about 1 why go TEC? post a week several months ago. (exaggerating)

 

[jinu117]

Jinu I want to bastardize my V2000 to look like yours. Where did you get your phaze change kit? Is that thing a vapochill or a home brew job?

Viper, if you're getting into TEC you should look into the blocks which don't use 'jet-impengent" nozzles. You need something like a maze-4 that slowly distributes the water over the entire block in order to properly utilize the TEC.
edit: or get one of these: Wintsch Labs Arctic Web Liquid Cooled 437Watt Thermoelectric Assembly

I was posting about 1 why go TEC? post a week several months ago. (exaggerating)

it is home brewed unit by one of most reputable phasechange builder in US who happens to be local to me. He has all the dimension needed to do the job obviously and I fabricated everything else other than the cooler part If you want contact, just PM me and I shall send him your way. Price will be cheaper than getting vapochill per say. I don't have the mesh material I used anymore as I passed left over to him so he can start building these things himself. He also has connection to anodizing service which I don't have so it will look even better. Just PM me for his info and I will direct you to his way.

 

[DFI Daishi]

Hey, have a swiftech storm waterblock and i was thinking about peltier cooling my cpu. Can i put the waterblock on the peltier? Im kinda noobish with peltier cooling . Also , i have a seperate Thermaltake Purepower 410W, can i use it to power the peltier? Do you have any suggestions for peltiers? Also, what happens with condentation and how do u protect against it?
Thanks

well, it's already been said, but it remains important enough that i will say it again: the storm is not a block to use with a pelt. i don't believe that the base is large enough to accomodate a usefull pelt for a CPU chilling. there are no retention holes for installing the pelt and cold plate. the storm only cools the central area of the base plate to any usefull degree.

as for the PSU.....it's not cut out for powering a CPU pelt, if you want any kind of reasonable lifespan for the PSU. it would really be a shame to come home and find a cooked CPU because the peltier PSU crapped out while the computer was running. if you're going to go for peltier cooling, use a proper, dedicated 12V or 24V PSU to run things.

as for suggestions for peltiers: leave them alone, unless you have a whole lot of spending money. it will cost you much more than you think that it will by the time that you are done.

what happens with condensation? you try to put enough insulation on there that you shouldn't have any. at some point, especially if you run your computer for long periods of time, you will find some frost or condensation forming. that is why i advocate for having a plan B. mask off all of your sockets/slots/anything else that you need to have a good electrical conection with, and then spray several coats of conformal coating onto the front and back of your motherboard and add-in cards. when you put your parts together, coat all of your pins and slots with dielectric grease before assembling the components. after taking precautions like that, even if you have a bit of condensation, it is unlikely to harm your computer.