PCI GPU

I really want to say that it doesn't exist.

edit: i mean, theres some radeon 2400's...nvidia 8400's....but they will run wow like shit
 
The 64bit mem bus on that 9400 will totally cripple the performance. I've got a 9550se with 64bit mem and my 9250 totally kills it. (not that im too worried as its passive for tv box)
 
all i can do is give suggestions.. anyone even thinking about playing new gen games on a pci card seriously needs a slap to the back of the head.. but what ever..
 
hey i used an 8400GS to play crysis granted all low settings but it did it without lag. WoW cant be THAT much of a GPU hog.
 
WoW can be quite a CPU hog too, what are you running? Probably worth it to build something completely new and cheap/using some existing components.
 
The 64bit bus HD2400pro, 8400GS, and 9400GT (~$60) will probably not run WOW at 1280x1024. I also worry about your CPU. What CPU?

There is a PCI 9500GT 128bit bus video card at newegg.com, but at ~$100 I would just use that money towards a new PC. As your CPU might be the problem too. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814139046



You could build a pretty nice low budget PC that will kick that crap out of anything a few years old. I just ordered these PC parts for a friend's build.

$116 for E5200 CPU + G31 motherboard with a little overclocking
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.197649
$100 SAPPHIRE HD4850 with $15 off with promo code "VGA6615" (+$15 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102824
$50 CORSAIR XMS2 4GB DDR2 800 Memory (+$20 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145241
$80 Rosewill Case** + 550w PSU combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.196921
$50 500GB Hard Drive**
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145215
$24 DVD-RW drive**
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827140035

Total = $420
All free shipping

- $35 in rebates = $385 After Rebates

*If you can't re-install the OS to new machine, build requires an addiction $90 for OS.
**could reuse these parts from old machine and get price under $300.
***motherboard only has 1 IDE connection, thus if you reuse parts only 1 IDE drive possible.

You could go really cheap and only upgrade the CPU + mobo + 9500GT + RAM = $216 - $40 reabtes = $176. And hope the old power suppy can handle the 9500GT :)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162019
 
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ClearM4 said:
The 64bit bus HD2400pro, 8400GS, and 9400GT (~$60) will probably not run WOW at 1280x1024. I also worry about your CPU. What CPU?

There is a PCI 9500GT 128bit bus video card at newegg.com, but at ~$100 I would just use that money towards a new PC. As your CPU might be the problem too. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814139046



You could build a pretty nice low budget PC that will kick that crap out of anything a few years old. I just ordered these PC parts for a friend's build.

$116 for E5200 CPU + G31 motherboard with a little overclocking
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.197649
$100 SAPPHIRE HD4850 with $15 off with promo code "VGA6615" (+$15 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102824
$50 CORSAIR XMS2 4GB DDR2 800 Memory (+$20 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145241
$80 Rosewill Case** + 550w PSU combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.196921
$50 500GB Hard Drive**
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145215
$24 DVD-RW drive**
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827140035

Total = $420
All free shipping

- $35 in rebates = $385 After Rebates

*If you can't re-install the OS to new machine, build requires an addiction $90 for OS.
**could reuse these parts from old machine and get price under $300.
***motherboard only has 1 IDE connection, thus if you reuse parts only 1 IDE drive possible.

You could go really cheap and only upgrade the CPU + mobo + 9500GT + RAM = $216 - $40 reabtes = $176. And hope the old power suppy can handle the 9500GT :)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162019
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Much love for the Egg. they have about $2000 of my dollars in the last year and a half
 
A PCI classic card can easily be up to 20% slower than the same GPU in a PCI-E slot. A 9500GT PCI might work OK, but as pointed out above, it's a bit expensive.
 
He's probably got a oem Dell/HP/ETC that has nothing but on-board video........and might not fit a new motherboard. Be careful of the older Dells with thier power supplies too - they look the same, but are wired differently....and if you fit a new motherboard in there, you could fry it trying to re-use the power supply.

We have as yet not heard back from the OP on his current specs.


shaggy4411 said:
There is a AMD processor, motherboard, video card, ram combo for $139.97 After rebates from Newegg
Link
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Dang......if I wasn't so poor right now..............
 
Monkey34 said:
Be careful of the older Dells with thier power supplies too - they look the same, but are wired differently....and if you fit a new motherboard in there, you could fry it trying to re-use the power supply.
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LOL, ancient history wants its warning back.

It's pretty safe to assume that he doesn't have a Pentium 3 (or older) or very early Socket 423 P4 system. :p Dell has used standard ATX 12v PSUs for the past 7 or 8 years. It's a pretty good scam that some companies run where they sell (standard sized... SFF and some of the larger systems use irregular PSUs, but the vast majority don't) "Dell" PSUs for more modern systems at very inflated prices. Those are also standard ATX 12v PSUs. Some Dell models don't have a cutout in the back for a power switch, but otherwise can fit and use standard ATX 12v PSUs.
 
pxc said:
LOL, ancient history wants its warning back.

It's pretty safe to assume that he doesn't have a Pentium 3 (or older) or very early Socket 423 P4 system.
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Really? I'm still coming across Win ME some, and a ton of early P4/rdram Dell rigs in the field. I gave a warning based on what I'm seeing...............seeing as how the OP hasn't given any specifics.

And in case you didn't notice, I SAID "older Dells".
 
Monkey34 said:
He's probably got a oem Dell/HP/ETC that has nothing but on-board video........and might not fit a new motherboard. Be careful of the older Dells with thier power supplies too - they look the same, but are wired differently....and if you fit a new motherboard in there, you could fry it trying to re-use the power supply.

We have as yet not heard back from the OP on his current specs.



Dang......if I wasn't so poor right now..............
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i was trying to get a sisters friends old dell to play wow at that resolution. it has onboard video but they were so cheap that the didnt solder on an AGP slot even though within the bios it has an option for setting the AGP slot as a primary card, and im sure as hell not about to solder on an AGP slot myself. Its an old dell Pentium 4 2.66 good old Northwood 478
 
SonicTron said:
I really want to say that it doesn't exist.

edit: i mean, theres some radeon 2400's...nvidia 8400's....but they will run wow like shit
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lol, i think when people started to use the term gpu, it was already agp age.
 
I set up a computer for a friend a year ago with a PCI 8400 GS and opteron 180. It ran wow just fine. Most settings were on high with the resolution at 1024 x 768 I think. Fps were anywhere from 20-60. You will be just fine with that video card.
 
Yeah, I love how when someone mentions upgrading an older piece of equipment they always get, "It's not worth it. Upgrade your whole system. You can do it pretty cheaply," and then start throwing out prices of motherboards, cpu's, video cards, combos, etc. All of a sudden they have you spending over $200 ~ $300. Sure it might be smarter to do that, but that's not the question that's asked. $100 for a video card for someone is still better (to them) than spending $300 on performance they may not ever need. I've tried putting together "cheap" systems by buying used stuff here on the [H], it's still around $200 by the time I get motherboard, ram, cpu, video card. I asked the question the other week which video card is best...the first response I get was, "What are your system specs?". That doesn't really matter; a 4870 is still better than a 4670 every time. Now those weren't 2 cards I was using in my question, just using those as an example. I understand bottlenecks occur, but if you're asked to pick which card is best, just pick which card is best.
 
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