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Pascal Drought?

I doubt anyone will have them in stock by Thanksgiving maybe. Then the card will be outdated with the 1080ti then that card will come out and there will be another Drought.
 
Yeah really torn on 1080 as soon as I can get it, or 1070 and wait for 1080 Ti
 
I'm wondering if they are just having yield issues or actually can't keep up with demand. Seems awfully suspicious to me that they are out of stock (or extremely hard to find) for such a long time. I'm guessing it's production / yield issues.
 
They are waiting for AMD's release. If the red team can push some volume out of $250 "good enough" cards, green team will respond with a flood of 1060's and the 1070 or 1050 depending on how well they all do in the real world.
 
wareyore said:
They are waiting for AMD's release. If the red team can push some volume out of $250 "good enough" cards, green team will respond with a flood of 1060's and the 1070 or 1050 depending on how well they all do in the real world.
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this does not really make sense to me. if you have volume wouldnt you rather flood the market before its released?
 
Sprayingmango said:
I'm wondering if they are just having yield issues or actually can't keep up with demand. Seems awfully suspicious to me that they are out of stock (or extremely hard to find) for such a long time. I'm guessing it's production / yield issues.
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How many launches have you been around for? Short supply creates a fake market demand. I can't think of a recent launch that wasn't a paper launch.

Common practice on both sides
 
wareyore said:
They are waiting for AMD's release. If the red team can push some volume out of $250 "good enough" cards, green team will respond with a flood of 1060's and the 1070 or 1050 depending on how well they all do in the real world.
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They aren't even competing products with the current green cards.
 
jmilcher said:
They aren't even competing products with the current green cards.
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Depends on your definition of "competing".

Is AMD going after the super high performance category? No.
Is AMD going after the super high price category? No.
Is AMD going after the best price : performance category? Most definitely Yes.

Luckily, the best price : performance category is what a lot of us have been waiting for.
 
They're creating demand by artificially limiting supply. All tech companies do this when they release a hot, new product. I admit that I momentarily thought about picking up a 1080 over the weekend because of it.
 
Armenius said:
They're creating demand by artificially limiting supply. All tech companies do this when they release a hot, new product. I admit that I momentarily thought about picking up a 1080 over the weekend because of it.
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I was dead set on a nice AIB version of a 1080, once reviews on the 1070 came out I said screw it. Picked up a Gigabyte 1070 G1, and it's the perfect card for my needs. I game at 1440p and the thing has been a dream, not to mention I have an extra 300 dollars in my pocket due to the choice.

I have no problem with good healthy competetion... sounds like the 480 is going to be a great card for 1080p gamers. My 1070 will hold me for at least a year or more until I can see what nvidia does with their next Ti card. I have to say it's super refreshing to be back under a single card solution that "just works" - I came from Xfire 290's
 
Not a lot of people go to my local Best Buy. Was just there to grab something and they had several 1070/1080 FE, the Nvidia-branded boxes. $449.99/$699.99.
 
The custom 1070s are out in Canada... $100 over MSRP ~.~ price gouging everywhere, and they're always sold out
 
Daniel_Chang said:
Not a lot of people go to my local Best Buy. Was just there to grab something and they had several 1070/1080 FE, the Nvidia-branded boxes. $449.99/$699.99.
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Amazon finally has some FE editions at the same price points.
Well, "In stock on July 5, 2016"
 
Creig said:
Luckily, the best price : performance category is what a lot of us have been waiting for.
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Depends on who you mean by "we." For all of us out here with GTX 960 or GTX 970 cards (or the AMD equivalents), a new card that offers only a small uptick in performance isn't worth opening up the case to install, much less $200. A $600 card that doubles our performance is far more attractive.

In the gaming market, AMD may do OK selling in to new builds for the low-end, but for new high-end builds and upgrades of existing builds, they do not offer much. And there really isn't much of a market for add-in GPUs except for the gaming market: the integrated GPUs by AMD and Intel are adequate for most other purposes.
 
pcgeekesq said:
Depends on who you mean by "we." For all of us out here with GTX 960 or GTX 970 cards (or the AMD equivalents), a new card that offers only a small uptick in performance isn't worth opening up the case to install, much less $200. A $600 card that doubles our performance is far more attractive.
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Going by TPU charts, a GTX 970 is roughly 60% faster than a 960. So for 960 owners, the RX 480 will be a sizeable upgrade.

The RX 480 is merely taking the 970/390 ($329) and moving their performance to $199. This is typically what a new $200 card does. It is neither revolutionary nor unexpected. Anyone expecting performance noticeably better than a 970/390 needs to come back to reality.
 
Daniel_Chang said:
Going by TPU charts, a GTX 970 is roughly 60% faster than a 960. So for 960 owners, the RX 480 will be a sizeable upgrade.

The RX 480 is merely taking the 970/390 ($329) and moving their performance to $199. This is typically what a new $200 card does. It is neither revolutionary nor unexpected. Anyone expecting performance noticeably better than a 970/390 needs to come back to reality.
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We don't know the real performance of a RX 480 yet. From what I've heard, it is 380 level.
 
DocSavage said:
We don't know the real performance of a RX 480 yet. From what I've heard, it is 380 level.
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There has been zero evidence of that. None at all. Not even the biggest Nvidia shills on this forum have made such a false and outlandish statement.

I'm hoping that's a typo on your part.
 
Daniel_Chang said:
There has been zero evidence of that. None at all. Not even the biggest Nvidia shills on this forum have made such a false and outlandish statement.
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Yea, it makes no sense, probably just trolling around or grossly misinform.
 
Budwise said:
Some 480 results supposedly already showing up and they're behind a out of the box OC'd 970.

First Radeon RX 480 gaming benchmarks hit the web | VideoCardz.com

Probably not the best review of it but still not looking great.
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That's honestly where I expect it to be. That's still ahead of stock 970 performance, which itself is about 55% ahead of a stock 380. A 55-60% bump over the 380 is nothing to sneeze at. That's better than any single generation x60 bump in recent memory.
 
That particular 970 benches above a stock 980 and uses a lot more power then a stock 980 as well.
 
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I ordered an MSI 1080 non-founder on the 14. Emailed the company on Friday and on Monday they said the card was back ordered and they did not have an eta for stock. Just a few minutes ago the company sent a tracking number and serial number.
 
They can't even keep the SLI HB bridges in stock. Doubt you can blame TSMC for that one...
 
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I called & talked to newegg customer service this morning, he said they had "a lot" of the Gigabyte G1 Gaming 1070's in stock.

Right now it's out of stock though, but the MSI Gaming 1070 and Zotac AMP! editions are in stock.

fwiw, if you backorder a card from newegg, when they get a shipment, they will let people place new orders and get filled before the backorders. That's why I called them. I had a backorder and wanted to know why they hadn't shipped it or processed the order yet.
 
The Fry's (Santa Clara) near my work had a whole shopping cart of Gigabyte Pascals. Several 1070 G1 Gaming and a couple 1080 FE. I snagged one of the FE's on impulse yesterday. Initially I was regretting being impatient and not holding out for the G1 XTREME or even an Asus STRIX.. but the FE seems to run great so far and quite cool - nothing above 70c with a fan curve I was using on my old 980ti. The fan gets audible for sure but it's not bothering me and it games at 2ghz+ so I am happy.
 
 
defaultluser said:
Newegg has six models of 1070 in stock right now.

GeForce GTX 1070 series, GeForce GTX 1080 series, Desktop Graphics Cards, Video Cards & Video Devices, Components - Newegg.com

You can buy this Asus STRIX, or this MSI Sea Hawk! So no, you don't have to settled for Founders Edition.

ASUS ROG GeForce GTX 1070 STRIX-GTX1070-O8G-GAMING 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready Video Card - Newegg.com

MSI GeForce GTX 1070 DirectX 12 GeForce GTX 1070 SEA HAWK X 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support ATX Video Card - Newegg.com

That's not a drought anymore. It was only a matter of a few weeks wait.
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Can confirm, got a notification they had a few 1070s. Ordered an MSI 1070 and should be here by Wednesday. They also tweeted they had the Zotac 1080s in stock as well.
 
Newegg has had few 1070 in stock today, along with others sites today. Been checking nowinstock myself. Was able to snatch Assu ROG GeForce GTX 1070 STRIX-GTX1070-O8G-Gaming from newegg . Actually took me about 20 minutes of wait time with their customer support on chat to see if any discounts that I might have missed. They ended up giving me $25 off so basically put it $5 under amazons price when they had it in stock. Still better than nothing I guess. Now to wait for it to arrive and finally put my new pc together.
 
The Drought continues haven't seen a 1080 EVGA sc all week go up on sale.
 
Comixbooks said:
Scalpers can go rot under a tree
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Unfortunately, sometimes there's unintentional scalping. I posted a week or so back here and elsewhere that my local BB had ample stock of 1080 FEs and 1070 FEs at MSRP. I was asked by a member of another board to ship one. I explained:

-$699.99
-$766.49 after 9.5% local tax
-Shipping is about $20 for priority 2-day
-It's a drive, so I asked for about $20 for my time and gas.
-I rounded to $805.

Was called a scalper and that was the last that I heard.
 
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