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Partition Magic boot disk question.

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mosin

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First, some background:

I''m in the copier business, and the better copiers have hard drives that store scanned data, so that the end user can easily retrieve as many copies as they need. One brand uses 20 gig Fujitsu drives. They are typical IDE drives. Those of you who keep up with such things know that these drives had problems due to chemical reactions in the metal on the circuit boards that caused all of the drives to fail. The problem was so bad that Fujitsu got out of the standard IDE drive business altogether. They made up the drives that were sold retail, however, with versions that had the problem corrected. Not so with OEM copier drives, though. Those drives have to be purchased from the copier manufacturer, and they want around $600.00 each for them. :eek:

So.....

What if I replicate the partitions on a new Seagate, or whatever, and ghost the image(s)? Should work fine, right?

The rub.....

The partitions (There are two of them, or so I'm told.) are of some special nature. Unix based maybe? Anyway, I have one drive, but it may, or may not, be bad. Partition Magic doesn't see the drive at all. Neither does my motherboard. To make it worse, pmagic gives a error code of "Error #0" and goes no further. Does all of this mean that my sample drive is bad, too? How can I find out without any risk to this expensive drive? Is there a utility that will let me create any partition known to man? Is it possible to fix all these machines with $50-60 drives, or are we stuck at $600 a pop? :confused:


EDIT: Oops! This probably should be in Disk Storage Systems, but I'm so used to coming to General Software that I accidently posted it here. Sorry boss, maybe it should be moved.
 
easily done

well iI wouldnt use Partition Magic
Id try cloning with Symantec Ghost Enterprise with the sector by sector copy switch
alternately Id try g4u

which is on the Ultimate Boot CD
 
Will it copy the format(s), too? That's the big problem. Because I can't see it, I have no clue as to the format type(s). Also, I haven't a clue as to size of any partition, so I don't know how to format the replacement drives. The bios in my motherboard locked up while attempting to detect the drive, too. This is an expensive problem from Hell.
 
you could try googling to see what type of format those copiers use on those drives.

just my .02
 
It isn't there. Whatever Konica used is a well guarded secret, so they can charge $600. Nothing on the Ultimate Boot CD will see this drive either, so I'm betting that it is a bad one. Does anyone have experience with a bad drive not being detected any any known program?
 
mosin said:
It isn't there. Whatever Konica used is a well guarded secret, so they can charge $600. Nothing on the Ultimate Boot CD will see this drive either, so I'm betting that it is a bad one. Does anyone have experience with a bad drive not being detected any any known program?
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only other think of that i have had problems with is check the jumper settings (i know it sounds stupid, but still...). maybe the copier didnt use a jumper, and your PC still needs it to use a jumper to be detectable. if so, find a jumper off of an old cd drive or hard drive and go to town
 
niether should give a damn what its format is its not accessing the filesystem
however, Id put the HDD back and see if it works in the copier again
bet it works

Im sure they employ some protection mechanism if they hope to support that pricepoint
and if so, we wouldnt even be able to discuss how to best it
 
The drive was set as a master. I tried it that way with my "C" drive disconnected. It wasn't detected. Then I changed the jumper to slave with "C" in. Still a no-go. Cable select? A no-go, too. It looks like we are down $600 to get one that works. Then I start over, unless somebody comes up with an idea.

About some sort of protection, you may well be right, but no one in the US knows one way or the other.

The first drive that is a known bad one showed a SMART error when the bios loaded, so I didn't get far enough with it to tell anything. This one went undetected, so I'm dead in the water with it, too. However, they provide ghost images on their ftp site for other drives, so protecting the price isn't so much of an issue with them because all of their models' drives are extremely expensive. Their tech support thought the drive may can be cloned, but they have no experience with actually doing it. I tend to think that it isn't protected, but I can't be certain.

As to the question of whether it works in a copier, the answer is sort of. It works, but the machine gives error codes when the drive is switched on. I suspect that the drive is either bad, or failing fast.
 
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