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p3 500 or 500E?

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infamous gooch

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i've got this old gateway that a friend gave to me and it's got a p3 550 in it. i was wondering how i could tell if it were a 500 or 500E and what the difference between the two is. also. i'd like to upgrade the mobo as to allow me to oc and wanted to know if any of you have any good suggestions on a mobo or if its even worth investing in. thx =)
 
The E chips are designated as Coppermine cores. The other chips are designated Katmai cores. An EB like 533EB designated Coppermine core and 133MHz FSB. Regular "E" chips are 100MHz FSB.

You can tell with a utility like CPU-Z or download Intel's frequency identifier utility from their website. It ID's very old processors also.
 
Well for that platform I would stay away from the i820 SDRAM or even RDRAM chipsets. The 440BX chipset is the way to go for such processors. Although the i820 does give you AGP 4x and better USB support, as well as ATA66 support. Whereas BX only gives you ATA33 and AGP 2x.

But BX chipsets were the chipsets of the day and will offer you the greatest stability of the Slot 1 motherboards. Although I don't recommend Abit boards generally, they made some sweet Pentium II and early Pentium III boards. Such as the BH6 and BX6 Rev 2.
 
Slot 1 kinda limits you there.

Where there any 815 based slot 1 boards?

Seems the best best would be a 440bx based board.

I've got a handfull of katmai PIII's, if I get time I'm replacing a busted 440bx with a Via Apollo Pro board. On the PII's the differences were minimal... and the Via overclocked better, but they were early 440bx chips.
 
I've actually got an Asus I820 based SDRAM board. I used it for a couple of years. Not a bad board at all. Not nearly as bad as the claims concerning the MTH chips made things out to be.

But then again I think I got lucky.
 
katami's sucked.
They could do 600+Mhz sometimes.... but ran pretty hot.

600e, 650e & 700e's were the best P3 chips. I had a 600e that would do 900Mhz (limited by mobo) and a 700e that would do 1050Mhz (also limited by same mobo)

They were the shit back at the time when I had them... and a 1Ghz chip was outrageously priced!

And currently Im going to be shooting for 4Ghz with my next chip. (maybe a 3.2C at next price drop)
 
i had my bx board running a celeron 1300@1600 ;)

coppermine cores ran up to 1.1ghz
 
Originally posted by Yiffy
I still have a BE6-II running a Celeron 300A @ 450 somewhere.
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mmmmm BE6-II...i got shafted with a soyo 6ba+4 :mad:
 
heh, i liked it cause it had 4 dimms. but i should have gotten the be6 :(
 
Originally posted by 0ldman
Slot 1 kinda limits you there.

Where there any 815 based slot 1 boards?

Seems the best best would be a 440bx based board.
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Oldman,

Abit made an i815 slot 1 mobo, the SH6. I had one and it rocked.
I was running a PIII 733EB at first, then through in a PIII 1GHz
FCPGA on a ASUS Slocket. Either way, it ran great.

It will run a Katmai CPU also, if you can find one. I had a link to one, will post it if I can find it.

Are we talking about a slot 1 (SECC2) or a socket 370 (FCPGA) CPU here ? I don't remember it being defined in the original post.
 
I don't remember the 500 comming in anything but slot form. I thought the 533EB was the first socketed chip.
 
Originally posted by Sir-Fragalot
I don't remember the 500 comming in anything but slot form. I thought the 533EB was the first socketed chip.
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I wasn't sure, I knew the Coppermines kicked in right around the 500MHz mark. It's been so long (what, around 1999 ?) and seeing as we're looking at 4GHz later this year.... So much good hardware, so little time and $ !!!
 
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