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Overheating Case, Need Help!

jenkins

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Hello. I recently built a machine for my friend.

Intel 530
D915PBLL
512 MB DDR2 (2)
ASUS AX600XT
WD160GB SATA HD
Coolermaster Wavemaster

The rest of the stuff is not important. Anyways, he is having some problems with overheating now, especially in games. With the side of the case on, the CPU temp at idle is 62 C. Intel's max for that chip is 66 C. With it off, it reads at 51 C. I need to know if I can purchase a Zalman 7700CCU and fix it or if I need to do something more drastic. I have no experience with case mods whatsoever, and am on somewhat of a limited budget. Does anyone have any suggestions or a good place to get side panel fans from? I really appreciate whatever help you can give me. Thank you very much.

-jenkins
 
Is your heatsink properly mounted?
Are you useing some kinda thermal paste?
are you useing the retail heatsink and fan or what?

Gunna need more info if you want an informed anwser.
 
I reccommend one of these: http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/cl-p0025/cl-p0025silentTower.htm. I've used it with 2 tornados and fan controllers. It's overkill because I never even turn up the tornado fans.

If oyu got this heatsink, you could go front to back with the 2 attached fans and duct all the hot air outside your case. You could even duct in cold air from the front.

Also, I'd reccommend thermal paste instead of the "goo patch".

Just some opinions, hope it helps.
 
Oh, sorry I forgot to mention the heatsink.

1) Yes the heatsink is mounted properly. The BIOS is also flashed to 022.
2) I am using no thermal paste, I'm using stock intel.
3) I am using the stock heatsink and fan from intel.

thanks, kpedge, that may very well work.

ryuji, thanks, I'm not sure what the xp-120 is, but I'll do some research. Thanks again guys,

-jenkins
 
I had a similar problem with my athlon i was oc'ing.

Not enough air flow in the case.
A bigger heatsink didn't help temps much because it was just pushing the warm air around.
I bought some rounded cables and a 120mm fan and mounted it in the top three 5 1/4 bays.

Temps went from 53c to 35c.

Since it cools down alot with the side off, it's telling you that it wants more fresh air.

I would also make sure that you have at least one decent 80mm fan blowing out as well.
 
For mine I got a few degrees when I just remounted the heat sink. Didn't do too much diffrent, but something changed. I'd suggest that you at least give that a try. And also somehting I'm looking at is that my motherboard is very likely to be giving me skewed readings. That's something else to think about.
 
I've tried re-seating it. Didn't change any, unfortunately.

I would think it's the board, except he does have problems that seem heat related when playing games.

I think I may cut a hole in the sidepanel and install a 120mm case fan.
 
that's the standard solution. When all else fails, put in some more fans. I'm close to wanting to do that. Is he interested in water cooling?
 
jenkins said:
Oh, sorry I forgot to mention the heatsink.

1) Yes the heatsink is mounted properly. The BIOS is also flashed to 022.
2) I am using no thermal paste, I'm using stock intel.
3) I am using the stock heatsink and fan from intel.

thanks, kpedge, that may very well work.

ryuji, thanks, I'm not sure what the xp-120 is, but I'll do some research. Thanks again guys,

-jenkins

No thermal paste? does that mean no thermal tape either? I would think that you would need a medium between the chip and heatsink to conduct the heat away from the chip. Fans are great, but should that ever be runing that high at idle? I dont hink so. Get some thermal paste on there and i bet it comes down. Correct me if i am wrong or mis-understood your statement of "no thermal paste".
 
If you're going from the heatspreader on the cpu directly to the aluminum base of the heatsink, without some kinda themal compound then thats your problem.
Get some AS5
 
yeah, I know. I'm not that stupid. I'm using the thermal tape that comes stock with all intel fans.

From what I've been reading, the best sure-fire way to fix this is to cut a hole in the side of the case. Does anyone here have any recommendations for a noob case modder?

Thanks,

-jenkins
 
that thermal pad is about as conductive as fiberglass insulation when compared to as5.

get some real thermal glop and add a 120mm fan (or if you're real desperate, 4 120mm fans... tho they'll wake the neighbors if you know what i mean)

that'll cool things down real quick.
 
Funny I am running into the same problem with my case, I took a look at frozencpu and they have these fan ducts for sale

http://www.frozencpu.com/duc-16.html

I'm not sure if anyone has any experience with these but they look promising. I was looking into getting one myself.
 
Hmm, that looks like a cheap, although strange looking solution. I may try that.

Also, I will have to buy some AS5.

Thanks guys,

-jenkins
 
Some people do very simple ducts with a PVC pipe straight to the HS (stoping a inch or 2 short). If you're cutting a hole, might as well make sure it's going straight to the heat sink. put a fan on the case end and you don't get much better airflow than that I'd imagine.
 
Very true, and ideally that's what I'd do. I don't have much experience cutting though, and I'm apt to try Craz's idea first.
 
Case air flow is critical. You can have the best heatsink in the world, but a reality many people fail to realize is that with air cooling, your temps will NEVER drop below the ambient temp in your case. If your case has hot air in it and no way to get rid of it, you can be damn sure your CPU temp will be tons higher.
 
jenkins said:
From what I've been reading, the best sure-fire way to fix this is to cut a hole in the side of the case. Does anyone here have any recommendations for a noob case modder?

Thanks,

-jenkins

Might as well buy a dremel with #409 (?) cutting wheels. Great way to cut cases.
 
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