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OnePlus 2

1080p for better performance and battery life I can understand. USB-C, on the other hand, seems premature and dumb since it means throwing out your existing collection of wall and car chargers but for what benefit when data transfer is done over 802.11ac? Wireless charging would've been more useful. Fingerprint unlock is still slow compared to pattern and kind of useless for someone who prefers the advantages of chip based plastic. Nice hardware and design for the price. Only question is the OS. Hope it's better than Cyanogenmod where there's always something that didn't work right. At least they have capacitive button option because onscreen buttons suck.
 
mi7chy said:
1080p for better performance and battery life I can understand. USB-C, on the other hand, seems premature and dumb since it means throwing out your existing collection of wall and car chargers but for what benefit when data transfer is done over 802.11ac? Wireless charging would've been more useful. Fingerprint unlock is still slow compared to pattern and kind of useless for someone who prefers the advantages of chip based plastic. Nice hardware and design for the price. Only question is the OS. Hope it's better than Cyanogenmod where there's always something that didn't work right. At least they have capacitive button option because onscreen buttons suck.
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USB-C... agreed, it's premature. Even though you could use adapters in the mean time, I feel by the time Type C meets true maturity, this phone will be old tech. However, phone manufacturers will be one of the deciding factors on how fast Type-C rolls out, by including it on their phones.

For fingerprint unlock, they claim less than half a second to unlock, but we will see.
 
Lots of nice features for a good price... though I cannot believe they left out wireless charging!? Is it just unconfirmed, or is it not present? That is bloody insane. Using USB-C for "future proofing"? Okay, forward thinking... but not wireless charging? Qi is NOT that expensive! I really hope this, much like the Nexus 6 announcement originally said to miss wireless charging, is a mistake or rumor mill. How could they get so much right, yet possibly get this wrong? Still, overall it seems to be a solid entry as if I didn't already have my Nexus 6. Edit: Holy shit, there are rumors that it even lacks NFC?! Lacking Qi charging or wired "supercharging (both of which are on my N6 and are useful to me) is one thing, but NFC?! There are so many uses for NFC, especially with ApplePay just coming on the scene and getting people excited about mobile payment despite the fact it has been possible for a long time.

One thing the Nexus series and OnePlus seem to have in common is the openness of the device to the custom/development enthusiast community. Custom ROMs, kernels, and more software is available thanks to the hardware, firmware and drivers being available, "pure" Android (especially the open source parts), allowing users to root and hack around as they like, as well as swift updates to the latest Android builds. The "One" coming with a slightly customized version of CyanogenMod 11 was a testament to how far it appeared to go to support the enthusiast user base. Unfortunately, I think OxygenOS is a step back as thus far, it seems that they're not going to be releasing the code of what makes OxygenOS different and we still don't know some of the ways it will compare. This likely won't affect me so much as its likely users who want CyanogenMod or any of the other Android ROMs and have the tech skill to install them, will be able to do so. Maybe OxygenOS will look more promising as it rolls out, but overall I don't see any reason to avoid the Two simply because of this change.

If anyone's interested, make sure to sign up for invites - https://www.oneplus.net/invites - . According to the message earlier today prior to the launch itself, I'm number 39 (though it also claimed I was a different number, before going back to 39. Odd) ...and maybe I'll get more giftable invites because I bought a 1+1 in the past? I'll bring a few of them here to [H]ard forum goers if they grant me access. I have a referral link around here somewhere...

Edit: Found the referral link for anyone who is interested - https://oneplus.net/invites?kolid=6GVK9
 
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So could you technically use a data only sim and a talk/text sim together? There doesn't seem to be a ton of info on dual sim setups.
 
Why not just have the phone for sale?

Going through all this bullshit again seems so stupid

"You are in position
406,472 / 406,472"
 
xIronCrossx said:
So could you technically use a data only sim and a talk/text sim together? There doesn't seem to be a ton of info on dual sim setups.
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In theory, yes. I'm not sure how it is implemented in Android, but dual SIM is pretty prevalent in other countries, especially China; this is likely the reason it is included in the OnePlus 2. I'd have to look into how Android 5.1.x handles dual SIM, but I believe you can use both at the same time; its simply a matter of choosing which number you wish to use for calls/texts and I assume,data, for a given operation. Incoming calls will show either SIM1 or SIM2 (at least they did in the pre-smartphone days; its probably more comprehensive now).
 
My take on the OnePlus Two, being a OnePlus One owner myself;

I still own my OnePlus One, but it's a secondary phone left at home, kept if I break my current phone, the Nexus 6, which I love, and like much more than the OPO.

- The OnePlus One last year for $350 was the deal of the year, it matched the specs and hardware of the other popular flagships at the time, the Galaxy S5 and HTC One M8, both selling for $650. The OPO was every bit the match of those phones, with even better battery life. Was it better or a "flagship killer" ? No, but it was a very nice smartphone. The only downside to me,w as the piss poor camera, which was really bad quality, and the screen was just ok, I thought it looked washed out, and had a bluish tint. I really did not like the screen at all, it seemed cheap, compared to the beautiful One M8 screen, or the AMOLED S5 screen, no comparison,, but then again the phone was only $350, and for that price nothing even came close to it.

- OnePlus Two, after reading the quick reviews this morning, seems like a "budget" phone now. No NFC, No Quick Charging, still the same average quality screen from last year, No Micro SD slot. It still seems like a nice phone, but not compared to last years OPO compared to other 2014 phones at the time, the OPT seems lesser for sure now compared to the S6 or G4.

And some reviewers like MKHBD saying battery life is lesser on the OnePlus Two compared to the OnePlus One by a fair amount. He had the phone for two weeks to test. OPO got like 6+h Screen On time, the OPT got like 4.5h Screen On time.

And then the whole 'Invite system" is just a sad joke now, and using it again for 2015 is lame :rolleyes: And this year we are finally seeing other budget Android phones hit the market from China and others, at similar price points, with similar specs.


Bottom line, as a OnePlus One owner, I have zero interest int he OnePlus Two. Will wait to the what Google offers up with the two new Nexus phones this Fall, supposedly a budget Nexus 5 ( 2015 ) and a higher end 5.7" screen Nexus.
 
To be honest, Motorola just smashed the OnePlus Two.

Moto X Style and Moto X Play both look like great devices, with normal Android, expandable storage, better design, option for a better screen. All around look like awesome phones.

OnePlus Two meanwhile looks like a sidegrade from the 1+1.
 
Aurelius said:
So the OnePlus 2 is official.

You know the specs by now, but the big things to me are the little touches, like the iPhone 6-style fingerprint reader, the clever notification slider and USB-C. That and I'd be interested in a phone with a "black apricot" back.

It's not quite the shocker that the OPO was, but for $389 in a 64GB model? Pretty solid. I'd put up with the invitation system to get the OP2 if I weren't setting money aside for a new Nexus.
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And notably...no NFC.

Granted I've yet to ever find a use for NFC, but some people are up in arms over it.
 
About quick charging, there is no word on what kind of usb the Two uses (usb 2.0 or 3.0/3.1). But OnePlus has said that it takes less than 4 hours to charge the phone to full. So, while it's not the 100W like in laptops, but it's still higher than the typical 5W or 10W chargers.
 
Discussion on the OnePlus forums suggests that the USB TypeC connector is basically just window dressing; the connectivity is antiquated USB 2.0. Which is frustrating after all the "future proofing" rationale they give when users have said "So I'll need adapters or all new peripherals, as most things today use microUSB. What's the tradeoff for this inconvenience?". If they had "future proofed" properly with USB3.1 it would be better in every way, including charging options. If I recall, USB3.1 spec includes better voltage/amperage regulation over a higher accessible range which would allow faster charging as well.

Another notable issue is the apparent lack of Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0, despite the fact that the Two uses the highest-end Qualcomm 810 (version 2.1, we think) chipset that comes with support built in. If the "tweaks" to the 810 that OnePlus assured users were designed to avoid the overheating issues of other phones with the 810 chipset leading up to launch are simply to outright disable quick charging, that's unacceptable. There may very well be heat issues with some versions of 810, but many phones, even the HTC One M9, still enable the built in quick charge 2.0. If I recall, "overheating" in this context isn't about devices frying themselves or going above safe limits, but becoming uncomfortable to the touch, it is important to note. Hopefully OnePlus did not take a "head in the sand" optimization and simply disable the feature entirely.

Zorachus seems to have the right of it in many ways and this is frustrating. I can understand the rationale for many of their decisions (ie 1080p display saves money, power etc...) but not including, USB3.1 and/or enabling Quick Charge 2.0, Wireless Qi Charging, and especially NFC seems to be an asinine decision. These elements cost a pittance compared to many other components, are becoming increasing prolific and desired in the market, and add quite a bit of convenience. Especially with mottos and taglines like "Never Settle" and "Flagship Killer", you don't leave out these features!

The Two gets a great deal right especially consider its cost which makes its omissions all the more glaring. Hopefully OnePlus will see the error of their ways and decide to make a new variant of the Two with all of the above included. If they can offer a cheaper version with less RAM and storage space, they can add Wireless Qi and NFC while enabling Quick Charge 2.0 at least (though fully upgrading to USB3.1 would be preferable of course). I think most enthusiasts would even pay a few bucks ($20-50) more for their inclusion,despite the fact the low costs of these components mixed with an equal or greater sale volume that the One enjoyed, would likely take care of the ROI with no trouble.
 
Erasmus354 said:
To be honest, Motorola just smashed the OnePlus Two.

Moto X Style and Moto X Play both look like great devices, with normal Android, expandable storage, better design, option for a better screen. All around look like awesome phones.

OnePlus Two meanwhile looks like a sidegrade from the 1+1.
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Have to agree the Moto X Style at similar price point is more interesting especially now that DXOMark rates the camera as #3.

View with desktop browser to see ranking on right side of page.
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles
 
OnePlus 2...The 2012 flagship killer.

No NFC. Why? For the love of God why would you do that and yet add a fingerprint scanner. Anybody who wants Android Pay won't touch OP2 now.
No quick charging. Deal breaker. After my Nexus 6 my next device must have quick charging.
No wireless charging. Not a deal breaker by why not support it?
USB-C being really USB2. So why hype it? Oh wait this is OnePlus we're talking about.
Invite system. Really?
Snapdragon 810. Well at least you can fry an egg on it.

This is a "2016 flagship killer"? Seriously they called it that?

I wonder if they're crying now after being bitch slapped by Motorola this morning. OP2 can't hold a torch to Moto X Pure Edition. Not even close.
 
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The bad experience I've had with my OPO since CM12S dropped has really killed my enthusiasm for a OnePlus 2. I know I can flash OxygenOS or any number of custom ROMs on it, but I feel like I shouldn't have to do that just to get a stable experience.
 
Not sure why, but the OPT feels more "budget" phone to me, than the OPO did last year.

Yes for less than $400 is it still a good deal, what other high spec'd phone, similar to the HTC One M9 or G4 can you get for $380, brand new, off contract ?

But last year, the OPO felt closer to match the other flagships, and maybe a hair better, but this new OnePlus Two feels lesser than current flagships, thus the price seems appropriate.


Personally I'll wait for the two new Nexus phones coming in a few months.
 
Zorachus said:
Not sure why, but the OPT feels more "budget" phone to me, than the OPO did last year.

Yes for less than $400 is it still a good deal, what other high spec'd phone, similar to the HTC One M9 or G4 can you get for $380, brand new, off contract ?

But last year, the OPO felt closer to match the other flagships, and maybe a hair better, but this new OnePlus Two feels lesser than current flagships, thus the price seems appropriate.


Personally I'll wait for the two new Nexus phones coming in a few months.
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I dunno, maybe the Moto X Style Pure Edition for $399. You know, a phone with a better chip, better screen, better design, better features, and better operating system.
 
Vermillion said:
OnePlus 2...The 2012 flagship killer.

No NFC. Why? For the love of God would you do that yet add a fingerprint scanner. Anybody who wants Android Pay won't touch OP2 now.
No quick charging. Deal breaker. After my Nexus 6 my next device must have quick charging.
No wireless charging. Not a deal breaker by why not support it?
USB-C being really USB2. So why hype it? Oh wait this is OnePlus we're talking about.
Invite system. Really?
Snapdragon 810. Well at least you can fry an egg on it.

This is a "2016 flagship killer"? Seriously they called it that?

I wonder if they're crying now after being bitch slapped by Motorola this morning. OP2 can't hold a torch to Moto X Pure Edition. Not even close.
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Simple question....do you want a $400 phone or a $600 phone?

Oh, you want to have your cake and eat it too.
 
Skripka said:
Simple question....do you want a $400 phone or a $600 phone?

Oh, you want to have your cake and eat it too.
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I dunno, most of what he wanted is on the $400 Moto X Pure Edition .... so maybe he can have his cake and eat it too, just not from 1+1. I guess he is going to have to skip the invite line and just go purchase a phone from Moto like a normal person :eek:.
 
Erasmus354 said:
I dunno, maybe the Moto X Style Pure Edition for $399. You know, a phone with a better chip, better screen, better design, better features, and better operating system.
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I'm not quite sure about the better chip part, but everything else you said is true. OnePlus totally failed this time around. It's like HTC One M9 all over again!

I'm saving my money for the Nexus 5S or the Nexus 6S... Or, heck, get the iPhone 6 from TMo and "jump in" immediately when the iPhone 6S comes out, for no addition cost...
 
Skripka said:
Simple question....do you want a $400 phone or a $600 phone?

Oh, you want to have your cake and eat it too.
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Last I checked that Moto X Pure is better then the OP2 and it costs what $10 more? Yeah, I'll take my cake and eat it too.
 
Blown 89 said:
Pretty much. Motorola just made the OnePlus2 its bitch.
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Playing the devil's advocate.

Issue with the Moto X Style (or Pure for the US) is this... It's huge like the Nexus 6. If the Nexus 6 was launched last year at this price, it would probably sell like hotcakes.

Also, 3GB of LPDDR3 RAM vs 4GB of LPDDR4.

Okay, done with the devil's advocating. OnePlus Two really sucks this year. And I'm still waiting on the Nexus 5S from LG info if not the "Nexus 6S" from Huawei.

Another is the new Microsoft Lumia 950/950XL with the true USB 3.1 Type-C.
 
CHANG3D said:
Playing the devil's advocate.

Issue with the Moto X Style (or Pure for the US) is this... It's huge like the Nexus 6. If the Nexus 6 was launched last year at this price, it would probably sell like hotcakes.

Also, 3GB of LPDDR3 RAM vs 4GB of LPDDR4.

Okay, done with the devil's advocating. OnePlus Two really sucks this year. And I'm still waiting on the Nexus 5S from LG info if not the "Nexus 6S" from Huawei.

Another is the new Microsoft Lumia 950/950XL with the true USB 3.1 Type-C.
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Its honestly not even the difference in specs thats pushing the Moto X and G (yes, the G too) past the OP2. Its the fact that both models support GSM and CDMA. The entire Verizon/Sprint market on top of all the GSM providers is available to Motorola
 
CHANG3D said:
Playing the devil's advocate.

Issue with the Moto X Style (or Pure for the US) is this... It's huge like the Nexus 6. If the Nexus 6 was launched last year at this price, it would probably sell like hotcakes.

Also, 3GB of LPDDR3 RAM vs 4GB of LPDDR4.

Okay, done with the devil's advocating. OnePlus Two really sucks this year. And I'm still waiting on the Nexus 5S from LG info if not the "Nexus 6S" from Huawei.

Another is the new Microsoft Lumia 950/950XL with the true USB 3.1 Type-C.
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Nexus 6 size = comfortably normal;

I have been using and LOVING my Nexus 6 since February, and I hated how large it was, and felt very uncomfortable with the size at first, almost returning because of that reason. And then after like 3 to 4 weeks of use, the size becomes comfortably normal, and feels like a regular phone now, and I never once even think about the size anymore, it feels right.

Only phones that are easily one handed nowadays are 5" or less. Maybe the Galaxy S6 and normal iPhone 4.7". But once you get to that 5.3" or popular 5.5" size, those are not really much smaller than the Nexus 6. The iPhone 6 Plus and OnePlus One, both 5.5" feel almost the same in hand as my Nexus 6, really not much difference footprint size wise.
 
This OnePlus Two, is like the HTC One M9 next to the M8, a minor side grade at best, possibly no better IMO.
 
Personally I find a fingerprint scanner way more useful than NFC, mainly because almost nobody uses NFC. Maybe Android Pay is more relevant in other countries/states, but I haven't seen a single place with it yet. No quick charge is stupid, usb type C isn't even that bad unless you somehow can't live without multiple cables. It's a step in the right direction, although supporting USB 3.1 might have been useful.
 
CHANG3D said:
Playing the devil's advocate.

Issue with the Moto X Style (or Pure for the US) is this... It's huge like the Nexus 6. If the Nexus 6 was launched last year at this price, it would probably sell like hotcakes.

Also, 3GB of LPDDR3 RAM vs 4GB of LPDDR4.

Okay, done with the devil's advocating. OnePlus Two really sucks this year. And I'm still waiting on the Nexus 5S from LG info if not the "Nexus 6S" from Huawei.

Another is the new Microsoft Lumia 950/950XL with the true USB 3.1 Type-C.
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For sure it isn't a clear 100% trouncing of the OP2 by Motorola. The onboard storage also goes to OP2 over the MotoX. However, on balance, the Moto X is simply a much better device.
 
Erasmus354 said:
For sure it isn't a clear 100% trouncing of the OP2 by Motorola. The onboard storage also goes to OP2 over the MotoX. However, on balance, the Moto X is simply a much better device.
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When you want to buy one of these new phones. The Moto X TROUNCES the OPT.

You wanna buy the new Moto X in September, ok, go to the website and click purchase, select shipping, and it will be to you in a few days. Wanna buy the OnePlus Two ? Ok first where's your invite ? Second, they out of stock. Third you're a tool for even supporting this company and buying their product :rolleyes:
 
The OP2 is a fail for me. I'm waiting to see what the nexus looks like and the price on it, more then likely I'll be getting the moto x pure edition for $400
 
Skripka said:
WAAAAAH HOW DARE YOU SAY SOMETHING BAD ABOUT US!!!

https://plus.google.com/+ArtemRussakovskii/posts/1igz22rBvt1


Oppo is evidently run by hormonal teenagers who expect nothing but flowers and rainbows to be written about them
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I was cracking up last night when Artem posted that. Certainly didn't surprise me but David Ruddock's editorial was spot on. For OnePlus to get their panties in a bunch just proves how correct that editorial is.

My early prediction is there will be no OnePlus 3.
 
MKBHD's first impressions:
https://youtu.be/91av8wCH7CI

Honestly, if the OnePlus Two had NFC and QC2.0 or USB3.1 Type-C, I'd be buying it. As for Moto X Style/Pure Edition, no fingerprint reader or iris scanner, no buy.
 
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Skripka said:
WAAAAAH HOW DARE YOU SAY SOMETHING BAD ABOUT US!!!

https://plus.google.com/+ArtemRussakovskii/posts/1igz22rBvt1


Oppo is evidently run by hormonal teenagers who expect nothing but flowers and rainbows to be written about them
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To play devil's advocate, I've been following AP regularly for about a year now, and it couldn't be clearer that they have it in for OnePlus. I've never owned one of their phones and don't plan to, but even as a neutral observer, David Ruddock's posts in particular have stuck out to me as unprofessional and obnoxious in his relentless, often snide disdain for OP.

No big loss to me, though, as the OP2 strikes me as a major fail and an indication that the company's days are numbered.
 
Sounds like the Two may be a Stop gap to get to the real "2016 Flagship Killer".

I don't believe a word out of OnePlus so who knows what their plan is. I think they don't really know what their plan is themselves. If OnePlus stopped with the ego and just built their brand up and stopped setting the bar to a point that they can't possibly reach then users may not expect so much.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/08/02/oneplus-carl-pei-interview/30947799/

USA TODAY: Any plans for another phone this year?
There's going to be a second phone this year, before the end of the year. Hopefully for Christmas.
It may or may not be (higher spec'd than the OnePlus 2). When I saw the prototype for that phone I was like 'holy shit that's going to be my daily driver' but then when the OnePlus 2 production version came out it's also super nice, so its really hard to decide now what to use.
It's going to be amazing, but today I'm not going to talk about it.
 
Zorachus said:
Nexus 6 size = comfortably normal;

Only phones that are easily one handed nowadays are 5" or less. Maybe the Galaxy S6 and normal iPhone 4.7". But once you get to that 5.3" or popular 5.5" size, those are not really much smaller than the Nexus 6. The iPhone 6 Plus and OnePlus One, both 5.5" feel almost the same in hand as my Nexus 6, really not much difference footprint size wise.
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The 4.7 iphone really isn't even a one handed device, and I have huge hands. The home button is so far down due to their form factor and aspect ratio that it is a strain to hit, and its wider than a nexus 5 despite having a smaller screen.
 
The only thing to me, that could possibly make me rethink this second gen OPO, is if the battery tests show best in class battery life for a current smartphone.

I still own a OnePlus One, and the Kit Kat ROM's gave me ridiculous great battery life, like 6.5h to 7h Screen On time. And then the Lollipop ROM's or even stock Lollipop on the OPO were a major drop in battery life compared to Kit Kat. Now my OPO is lucky to see 5h Screen On time if that.

But my main phone lately is my Nexus 6 :)

So hopefully the new hardware, little bigger battery, and Oxygen 2.0 can get the OnePlus Two battery close to the OnePlus One on Kit Kat.

I'll wait for the real world reviews first
 
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